I'd say Shaken 'n' Stirred but point taken
― the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 27 March 2017 21:20 (two years ago) Permalink
Robert Plant sampling his old band -- was that a first?
― Dominique, Monday, 27 March 2017 21:21 (two years ago) Permalink
lol from the interview:
In 1988, Costello and McCartney returned to the studio. The idea is that Costello would co-produce the new record. As they worked, they realized they had different ideas. One day, they were talking about “That Day is Done,” a gospel-inspired ballad. Costello wanted to use New Orleans brass. McCartney referenced the Human League. Costello left the studio to calm himself down.
McCartney: This is one of the rules of my game. I will say stuff, any idea that comes into my head. And if you don’t like it, you just tell me and I’ll probably agree. But my method is to throw out a lot of stuff and whittle it down. [Pause.] Actually, he was really not a fan of the Human League. I like “Don’t You Want Me.” [Hums the chorus.] I think that’s, like, a classic pop record. . . . I can now see now that me even mentioning the words Human League would send him off in the wrong direction.
― the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 27 March 2017 21:23 (two years ago) Permalink
Stuff like the snare drum sound on 'Motor of Love' isn't actually "gated reverb" at all. If we're talking about what "gated reverb" is on snare drums, it's a large amount of reverb applied to the source signal (the snare) and then a noise gate is applied so that the reverb only lasts as long as the snare hit and then cuts out completely, which results in a fattened drum sound without hearing the "decay" of the reverb. The snare sound on 'Motor of Love' is not gated, it's just a large amount of artificial reverb placed on the snare drum. It's the opposite of gated reverb in that it has a long decay time.
― Coolio Iglesias (Turrican), Monday, 27 March 2017 21:23 (two years ago) Permalink
Now 'Strangehold', that's "gated reverb"!
― Coolio Iglesias (Turrican), Monday, 27 March 2017 21:25 (two years ago) Permalink
Ok, good points. I still think the drums on Motor of Love are distracting and bad though!
Boiling it down to either embracing bold contempiraneity or forbidding all change is reductive. I like the sound of plenty of records from this period, I love some of Paul's experiments with new sounds (McCartney II for example), and even on this album I think some songs sound better than others. I just don't think he had a strong ear for those sounds, a sure instinct of when and how to use them in a song (or build a song around them), and his long-standing "hey that sounds neat, let's use it" instincts seem to be failing. The multi-producer approach speaks to this imho, he's looking for other people to sort it all out for him. Maybe it came from the label tho, idk.
― tales of a scorched-earth nothing (Doctor Casino), Monday, 27 March 2017 21:36 (two years ago) Permalink
xxpost Ugh man I knew there was a reason i could never stand EC haha
― Acid Hose (Capitaine Jay Vee), Monday, 27 March 2017 22:24 (two years ago) Permalink
Listening to this album, I forgot how much I love "Put It There". My dad passed away last month and listening to this one made me tear up.
― Darin, Monday, 27 March 2017 22:58 (two years ago) Permalink
Sorry for your loss. That song has a real intimacy and warmth. And Martin's string arrangement is a deft touch.
― Naive Teen Idol, Tuesday, 28 March 2017 02:14 (two years ago) Permalink
I'm sorry to hear that, Darin.
I lost my dad last year, and that song has come into my mind more than once since then. I've always thought it was a really lovely tune, but I think as a teenager I found it a little hokey and distanced myself from it, whereas as an adult I can really appreciate the sincerity of an idea like that. Which also describes, in a small way, certain things about how I related to my dad. And he was generally, of the two of us, the one to make a point of reaching out and saying something useful like "don't be a stranger, stay in touch," even if generally he was pretty vague emotionally in that guys-who-don't-verbalize-feelings way. Which reminds me of the father in this song, making the choice to extend an olive branch when maybe his inertial tendency would be to stay silent. I was his youngest son, too.
So... tearing up, yeah. I'm with you.
― tales of a scorched-earth nothing (Doctor Casino), Tuesday, 28 March 2017 04:39 (two years ago) Permalink
Thanks to both of you. And sorry for your loss, too, Doctor Casino.
― Darin, Tuesday, 28 March 2017 05:17 (two years ago) Permalink
Appreciate it, Darin. For what it's worth, not knowing your situation at all, but for me at least it has gotten easier with time.
― tales of a scorched-earth nothing (Doctor Casino), Tuesday, 28 March 2017 12:43 (two years ago) Permalink
Hope I didn't sound too cavalier in my earlier post, Darin. I just meant that song hits such a perfectly warm note – I can only imagine listening to it thinking back to one's own relationship to their father after he's passed.
I continue to be really blown away by these Costello demos on this record. WaPo interview suggests that McCartney himself now believes these were the best things to come out of these sessions by some distance. I am inclined to agree.
That said, the whole Human League thing is both hilarious and instructive. For one, Paul was absolutely right to admire them as he did (as did Horn, which may explain the former's desire to work with the latter). Even if HL were about five years past their sell date while Paul was pimping them in 1988, Costello's purist reaction to the mere suggestion is exactly why he's kind of insufferable – and, I suspect, why Paul ultimately didn't want to keep working with him. Say what you will about Paul and whimsy, but "I didn't want to make an Elvis Costello record" cuts about as deeply as anything Lennon ever said.
― Naive Teen Idol, Tuesday, 28 March 2017 13:12 (two years ago) Permalink
LOL, just noticed that Spotify is missing the last three tracks of Press to Play. They're not unavailable or greyed out – they're not there at all.
Pretty sure I'm the only person in the known universe who has noticed this.
― Naive Teen Idol, Tuesday, 28 March 2017 17:57 (two years ago) Permalink
If you're referring to 'Write Away', 'It's Not True' and 'Tough on a Tightrope', then they never really were part of the album proper anyway.
― Coolio Iglesias (Turrican), Tuesday, 28 March 2017 18:10 (two years ago) Permalink
Talking about Press to Play, I heard 'Move Over Busker' for the first time in ages the other day and actually found myself thinking it was pretty decent.
― Coolio Iglesias (Turrican), Tuesday, 28 March 2017 18:11 (two years ago) Permalink
I think 'Move Over Busker' is the track on the album where the song and the production are least suited to one another, I can imagine it being recorded more like Smile Away from Ram or something. I like the production on Press for the most part though
― soref, Tuesday, 28 March 2017 18:34 (two years ago) Permalink
this alternate mix of Angry is much better than the one on the album imo:
― soref, Tuesday, 28 March 2017 18:36 (two years ago) Permalink
I like the way "Rough Ride" sits in the album. McCartney goes to Propaganda-land. It definitely sounds like it was written in an afernoon but still pretty cool due to its Horn/Lipson glossiness. YMMV of course depending on how much you dig Horn/Lipson.
― Acid Hose (Capitaine Jay Vee), Tuesday, 28 March 2017 21:47 (two years ago) Permalink
I love Propaganda, Horn and Lipson and feel confident in saying that song eats it.
― Naive Teen Idol, Wednesday, 29 March 2017 00:07 (two years ago) Permalink
Shifting gears, I'm digging into Pipes of Peace on Spotify. Notwithstanding its rep as "leftovers from Tug of War," this is a more interesting and experimental record than it is given credit for – certainly more interesting than its predecessor's somewhat unremarkable exercise in formalism and LA Express smooth jazz. Paul's melodic touch is in good form throughout – I've always been a fan of "So Bad" (which received pretty heavy airplay on MTV IIRC) and "The Other Me" is a minor hidden gem. "Average Person" could be straight off London Town were it it for the more modern production. Also both MJ collabs, "The Man" in particular, are high quality. All told, there's less filler on this than any other post-1975 Paul record I can think of.
Also, given that his slide into 80s survivor mode would otherwise feel almost too easy, I appreciate the left turns on this record: the Linndrum sound, the sawing Martin orchestrations on things like "Keep Under Cover," and the weird mashup that is "Tug of Peace."
Demos on the expanded version, particularly on oddball stuff like "It's Not On," show he was very much on his game – and point to some of the studio experiments he'd be exploring in the years ahead.
A pleasant if extremely belated discovery.
― Naive Teen Idol, Wednesday, 29 March 2017 15:05 (two years ago) Permalink
Hmm. I completely disagree, to be honest, especially about the comment about it having less filler than any of his post-1975 albums... I think Pipes of Peace is one of McCartney's weaker albums, although it has a fair amount of highlights on it. It's certainly down there near the bottom of the pile for me. What he really should have done was release the best of the stuff as an EP, and perhaps bundled it with Tug of War as the Pipes of Peace EP.
I'd say 'Pipes of Peace', 'Say Say Say', 'So Bad' and 'The Man' were the keepers. Destroy the rest without hesitation.
― The Roger Waters Experience (Turrican), Wednesday, 29 March 2017 15:13 (two years ago) Permalink
Yeah that's what I thought ... and then I re-listened to it. Far more holds up than I remembered.
― Naive Teen Idol, Wednesday, 29 March 2017 15:16 (two years ago) Permalink
I don't listen to Driving Rain as often as some of McCartney's other LP's, so it's been quite pleasant to revisit how fucking awesome 'Rinse the Raindrops' is.
― ...so music and chicken have become intertwined (Turrican), Wednesday, 12 April 2017 21:17 (two years ago) Permalink
'rinse the raindrops' is incredible, but you have to stop the album before 'freedom' starts playing
― fucking pop records (Autumn Almanac), Thursday, 13 April 2017 00:18 (two years ago) Permalink
it's like following a banquet with shitty vanilla ice cream
I couldn't agree more. 'Freedom' is def. bottom of the pile McCartney for me. Something like 'Rinse the Raindrops' though, shit! ... when McCartney leaves us and the obituaries are being written and people finally dig deep into his post-Beatles discography, they're gonna hear things like 'Rinse the Raindrops' and go "fuck! I never knew McCartney was doing stuff like that!" and I'll be like "told ya!"
― ...so music and chicken have become intertwined (Turrican), Thursday, 13 April 2017 00:30 (two years ago) Permalink
New Swede Mason is relevant
― mfktz (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Saturday, 26 August 2017 18:59 (one year ago) Permalink
― yellow is the color of some raisins (Doctor Casino), Saturday, 26 August 2017 19:15 (one year ago) Permalink
it has been a long time since i've seen something as funny
― niels, Sunday, 27 August 2017 01:20 (one year ago) Permalink
That is hilarious. A friend just sent me the Swedemason clip and I came here to post it and ... that's the most recent post, from almost a year ago.
― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 27 April 2018 15:08 (one year ago) Permalink
Paul McCartney’s latest single is produced by Ryan Tedder and has a chorus that goes “I just wanna/Fuh You” https://t.co/UGy3MNKCM7— Stephen Thomas Erlewine (@sterlewine) August 15, 2018
I don't know what to say other than I find it ... very catchy.
― Naive Teen Idol, Wednesday, 15 August 2018 19:20 (ten months ago) Permalink
just another in a v long line of embarassing Macca sexual innuendos
― Οὖτις, Wednesday, 15 August 2018 19:34 (ten months ago) Permalink
"fuh" doesn't even rise to the level of innuendo
― wayne trotsky (Simon H.), Wednesday, 15 August 2018 19:40 (ten months ago) Permalink
Ha! I like the fact that McCartney is still doing shit like that at the age of 76.
― Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Wednesday, 15 August 2018 20:23 (ten months ago) Permalink
this is the age of the horny septuagenarian
― ghost beef (bizarro gazzara), Wednesday, 15 August 2018 21:31 (ten months ago) Permalink
I'm sure our British fans will hate this, but I thought it was pretty fun, and even kinda moving:
― DJI, Wednesday, 15 August 2018 21:34 (ten months ago) Permalink
― DJI, Wednesday, 15 August 2018 21:39 (ten months ago) Permalink
The new song sounds like something Ed Sheeran would toss off and discard for being too sappy. It's not like it's Paul's first ever misstep, of course, but even at his worst he's always sounded like he's following his own ideas, this isn't even that.
― mfktz (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Wednesday, 15 August 2018 23:07 (ten months ago) Permalink
That’s about the least charitable reading of this possible but it may not be far off. Throughout McCartney’s solo career he has followed his various muses – one of which is to do “his” version of artists he admires. It’s led to some of his best stuff (“Arrow Thru Me” = Aja-era Steely Dan, “Summer Day’s Song” = BaAS-era Eno) and plenty of pablum. Perhaps this is his Sheeran nick. Or maybe it’s just his Viagra-era update of “Press.” Regardless, I love that he’s still doing it.
― Naive Teen Idol, Thursday, 16 August 2018 01:34 (ten months ago) Permalink
“I just wanna fuh ... YOUUUUUUUUUUUUU!!!!!!”
― Naive Teen Idol, Thursday, 16 August 2018 12:56 (ten months ago) Permalink
FUH! All Night!
― DavidLeeRoth, Thursday, 16 August 2018 13:33 (ten months ago) Permalink
it really sucks
― The Desus & Mero Chain (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 16 August 2018 13:40 (ten months ago) Permalink
Maybe he's calling back to this.
― Eliza D., Thursday, 16 August 2018 13:44 (ten months ago) Permalink
His voice is near enough Fuh'd at this point.
― Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Thursday, 16 August 2018 18:13 (ten months ago) Permalink
right therethat's itYES
― morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 16 August 2018 18:17 (ten months ago) Permalink
what is this shithttps://open.spotify.com/album/7piDt78gLATzAQv5JtQ4I7?si=pIvG0pnuTCmYQAqmixrXug
― niels, Tuesday, 25 September 2018 07:22 (nine months ago) Permalink
Love how the solo in "Maybe I'm Amazed" is the best George Harrison approximation he could do. Also the muted guitar in the second verse (I think -- about 2:15). Never paid attention to this song, but really digging it (this week).
― john. a resident of evanston. (john. a resident of chicago.), Tuesday, 12 March 2019 03:00 (three months ago) Permalink
Man, I've taken "Uncle Albert / Admiral Halsey" for for my entire life. There's so much to love in it -- the chirping, the harmonies ("allllbehhhrt...ahhhhl daaaay"), his voice in the Admiral Halsey part, "leetle leetle gypsy get around"...What a song.
― john. a resident of evanston. (john. a resident of chicago.), Thursday, 21 March 2019 01:32 (three months ago) Permalink
If pushed, that or "Another Day" would be my POO Macca solo song.
― an incoherent crustacean (MatthewK), Thursday, 21 March 2019 05:28 (three months ago) Permalink