Also, has there been any more news about the forthcoming Buckingham-McVie-really-should-be-a-Fleetwood-Mac album?
― Coolio Iglesias (Turrican), Saturday, 25 March 2017 01:22 (seven years ago) link
No. It's obvious that Nicks has lawyer-veto power over who is in the Mac.
― the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 25 March 2017 01:38 (seven years ago) link
My review of the reissue: https://humanizingthevacuum.wordpress.com/2016/09/24/fleetwood-macs-mirage-sparkles-anew/
― the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 25 March 2017 01:43 (seven years ago) link
I believe it'll be out this summer. For her part, Nicks has said that, due to the state of the industry, the full band probably won't make another album.
― to fly across the city and find Aerosmith's car (C. Grisso/McCain), Saturday, 25 March 2017 01:48 (seven years ago) link
I was under the impression that Mick Fleetwood and John McVie owned the name "Fleetwood Mac" and therefore could dictate who could and couldn't be in the band?
― Coolio Iglesias (Turrican), Saturday, 25 March 2017 01:56 (seven years ago) link
What's interesting about Say You Will is how hard it is to separate Nicks and Buckingham's efforts in terms of quality - well, probably Buckingham has a bit better quality control, but - "Bleed To Love Her" aside - Nicks' highs are a little bit higher.
That's the biggest surprise of the album: that Nicks provided (or Buckingham coaxed from her) such a strong set of material after 16+ years of struggling on that front.
― Tim F, Saturday, 25 March 2017 07:59 (seven years ago) link
I love "Hold Me" and especially "Gypsy" - that one has always, in my head, sounded like some magical ethereal wonderland journey suggested by the best possible interpretation of the title.
― yesca, Saturday, 25 March 2017 12:56 (seven years ago) link
"Nicks has said that, due to the state of the industry, the full band probably won't make another album."
she's been on about the state of the industry for some time but I don't really get it. Is the fear that it wouldn't make enough money? They certainly all still tour together (I saw them last year, and they were amazing).
― akm, Saturday, 25 March 2017 16:58 (seven years ago) link
like, she actually told people to just download her last solo album for free since it didn't matter
"No. It's obvious that Nicks has lawyer-veto power over who is in the Mac."
is that something that might have been introduced after they put out the godawful Time?
― akm, Saturday, 25 March 2017 17:00 (seven years ago) link
(actually I don't know that that album is godawful, I only listened to it once and never gave it another shake, but it struck me as negligibly Mac)
― akm, Saturday, 25 March 2017 17:01 (seven years ago) link
she's been on about the state of the industry for some time but I don't really get it. Is the fear that it wouldn't make enough money?
Pretty much. She's asked about it in the current Rolling Stone, and she replies something to the effect of 'why spend a year recording something that won't make money?'.
― to fly across the city and find Aerosmith's car (C. Grisso/McCain), Saturday, 25 March 2017 17:06 (seven years ago) link
― yesca, Saturday, 25 March 2017 21:50 (seven years ago) link
OK really? The artist who insisted on a piano in her hotel suite in 1980?
― the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 25 March 2017 22:53 (seven years ago) link
You can go back further than that - the fact that the band didn't disintegrate circa the recording of Rumours may have had a lot to do with two of the band members finally getting their lucky break (and plenty of money) and the other three members finally seeing some big success (and plenty of money) after years of trying to re-establish themselves post-Peter Green.
― Coolio Iglesias (Turrican), Sunday, 26 March 2017 00:04 (seven years ago) link
An artist who's a capitalist!
― the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 26 March 2017 00:11 (seven years ago) link
they could, you know, record an album without spending 100 million dollars on it
― akm, Sunday, 26 March 2017 03:03 (seven years ago) link
lotsa good advice for stevie itt
at the risk of ending this inspiring discussion here's the actual quote:
I don't think we'll do another record. If the music business were different, I might feel different. I don't think there's any reason to spend a year and an amazing amount of money on a record that, even if it has great things, isn't going to sell. What we do is go on the road, do a ton of shows and make lots of money. We have a lot of fun. Making a record isn't all that much fun.
― niels, Sunday, 26 March 2017 09:03 (seven years ago) link
Sound fair enough to me.
― Tim F, Sunday, 26 March 2017 11:28 (seven years ago) link
Sad but true
― licorice oratorio (baaderonixx), Sunday, 26 March 2017 12:12 (seven years ago) link
Making a record isn't all that much fun.
Sure, not playing an instrument means she spends most of her time not doing anything when it's not her song. Maybe they could split the sessions into three parts and only work on one writer's songs at a time.
― Hideous Lump, Sunday, 26 March 2017 17:25 (seven years ago) link
the only reason I bemoan their not doing another one is because Buckingham and NIcks' latest solo output has been really really good and I wouldn't mind hearing those songs with the Mac backing them.
― akm, Sunday, 26 March 2017 17:33 (seven years ago) link
Finally hearing this. Definitely rocking my world atm - guess tango in the night next then?
― kolakube (Ross), Saturday, 10 February 2018 21:08 (six years ago) link
Yup
TitN has "Everywhere" which is one of the best songs of all time, but I prefer Mirage, it's more subtle, has kind of a unique sound
― niels, Sunday, 11 February 2018 11:16 (six years ago) link
I can't stop listening to "Book of Love" -- it sounds like it was cooked up in an EZ bake oven but that chorus! I went to sleep thinking about it, woke up singing it. Have there been any noteworthy covers of this song? I checked and didn't find anything but maybe my googling is weak.
― weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Tuesday, 13 March 2018 14:56 (six years ago) link
HA HAHA HA
― morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 13 March 2018 14:58 (six years ago) link
was it somebody from abooooooooove? i'd like to hear that guitar part at the end go on a bit longer
― weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Tuesday, 13 March 2018 15:19 (six years ago) link
i'd love a thread on songs that include backing vocals like the "ha ha ha ha" ones on this (also used in o superman and goldfrapp's "Hunt")
lechera, i woke up singing this too :) i mash the opening doo wop harmony vocal with metal guru in my mind by t-rex as well :-/
― kolakube (Ross), Tuesday, 13 March 2018 16:16 (six years ago) link
I went through a "Book of Love" phase for a long spell and walked away acknowledging that John's contribution is incredible. He really carries the song, it was quite kind of Lindsay to give him so much room.
― Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Tuesday, 13 March 2018 16:52 (six years ago) link
check out the early version:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Qsi3WqhQSU
― morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 13 March 2018 16:54 (six years ago) link
i'd love to play/sing a super loud crazy horse version of this song with a longer more ripping guitar solo/jam/freakout at the end
it's like this song has singlehandedly revived my interest in life
― weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Tuesday, 13 March 2018 17:01 (six years ago) link
SURELY HE MUST KNOW ALL THE RUUUUULES
― morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 13 March 2018 17:05 (six years ago) link
ha ha ha ha
― weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Tuesday, 13 March 2018 17:09 (six years ago) link
I love how often FM demos and early versions sound more polished than most bands' final products.
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 13 March 2018 17:46 (six years ago) link
book of love is definitely a fleetwood mac production i could live inside of
on an album of miraculous backing vocals it manages to hella stand out
― when worlds collide I'll see you again (Jon not Jon), Tuesday, 13 March 2018 17:53 (six years ago) link
it'd be a really fun song to teach a group of beginnersi would love to hear different interpretations of this song tbhthat is why i asked about covers originally
― weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Tuesday, 13 March 2018 18:12 (six years ago) link
Are there many auto harps used on this record? The guitar sounds are super lush
― kolakube (Ross), Tuesday, 13 March 2018 18:41 (six years ago) link
I gave this album another listen a couple of weeks ago. Still think it's the weakest album they put out from 1975-1987, although there's a couple of songs that would make it onto a personal best of.
― Full of bile and Blue Nile denial (Turrican), Tuesday, 13 March 2018 19:42 (six years ago) link
('Gypsy' and 'Book of Love', of course.)
― Full of bile and Blue Nile denial (Turrican), Tuesday, 13 March 2018 19:44 (six years ago) link
"Hold Me" is miraculous.
― morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 13 March 2018 19:47 (six years ago) link
"Oh Diane," "Wish You Were Here," and "Empire State" I skip.
― morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 13 March 2018 19:48 (six years ago) link
hold me/gypsy/book of love are def my favoritescan't really remember much about the rest of the songs tbh! but those three i love A LOT
― weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Tuesday, 13 March 2018 19:51 (six years ago) link
On the evidence of "That's Allright," Nicks should've sung more country; it's one of the last times her voice was that high too.
― morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 13 March 2018 19:53 (six years ago) link
I loathe 'Empire State' - for me, it's one of the worst things this incarnation of FM put out. I agree that Mirage gets overlooked a bit, but it's not hard to see why when it followed three incredible albums and was followed by an album that yielded far more memorable hits.
― Full of bile and Blue Nile denial (Turrican), Tuesday, 13 March 2018 19:56 (six years ago) link
i bought it from the dollar bin
― weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Tuesday, 13 March 2018 19:58 (six years ago) link
"hold me" and "gypsy" are so good that i was dismayed at how much i do not enjoy the full album
― dyl, Tuesday, 13 March 2018 22:25 (six years ago) link
Xp to Ross I feel like LB found some super close but rounded way to record his guitars with this production. There are all these great little guitar incidents that are tiny yet super present and colorful
― when worlds collide I'll see you again (Jon not Jon), Tuesday, 13 March 2018 23:36 (six years ago) link
Papas Fritas admit their Fleetwood Mac influence with a stripped down "Book of Love" cover:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3KJHNddSzLo
However, if you've heard "People Say," you already know how much they love Mirage:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bxiOSmAE3rM
― Hideous Lump, Wednesday, 14 March 2018 03:55 (six years ago) link
She was just a dream maker,Dreamer of sighsShadow on the one who used to cry
― velko, Wednesday, 14 March 2018 06:06 (six years ago) link
Can't believe this revive has not mentioned the incredible "Eyes of the World" yet.
― Tim F, Wednesday, 14 March 2018 21:52 (six years ago) link