SQUAREPUSHER album poll

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I could live without the name or the mask gimmick, but the albums good.

afriendlypioneer, Thursday, 23 March 2017 22:04 (seven years ago) link

can't believe there's a "Squarepusher plays all his great old stuff" album out and there's no ILX thread for it

frogbs, Friday, 24 March 2017 00:11 (seven years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d-j_D-O1vwM

afriendlypioneer, Friday, 24 March 2017 02:43 (seven years ago) link

will listen to this more over the next few weeks, but haven't been all that excited about this so far. My main issue is that by turning these tracks into live jams (and they do sound like jams for long stretches), you shift the focus from Squarepusher's amazing drum programming, to his IMO not always as impressive compositions and the live drumming.

The drumming on this record is good too, very energetic -- but to really pull this off, I think he'd need to get a full out genius playing drums, because a lot of the detail and interest in the original is simply what's going on in the drums, how they evolve over the course of a track. The drummer would either have to play exactly what is on the record (which would be almost impossible), or be so inherently interesting/creative himself, that the record would be great just because of him.

Dominique, Friday, 24 March 2017 13:13 (seven years ago) link

geez yr really pricking a whole in my balloon Dom

frogbs, Friday, 24 March 2017 13:28 (seven years ago) link

one music fan discouraged before 10 am EST, check

Dominique, Friday, 24 March 2017 13:31 (seven years ago) link

I don't know why but the drumming on the live "theme from squarepusher" vid I watched totally cracked me up... the whole idea cracks me up.. I approve

a but (brimstead), Friday, 24 March 2017 15:43 (seven years ago) link

Really, though, what's with the fucking helmets

afriendlypioneer, Friday, 24 March 2017 16:57 (seven years ago) link

So many notes! All of the notes. The drummer is killing it (esp. with that hi-hat made out of crash cymbals to simulate a chopped Amen), but sure it would have been cool to hear a Jojo Mayer or Mark Guiliana on this.

Still, so dense, which is why 'Massif' will always be my fav Squarepusher.

change display name (Jordan), Friday, 24 March 2017 17:14 (seven years ago) link

ha yeah, how has Squarepusher not worked with Jojo Mayer?

Dominique, Friday, 24 March 2017 17:18 (seven years ago) link

Boiler Room video is niiiiiiiiiiiiiice

millwallreptile (Noodle Vague), Friday, 24 March 2017 20:49 (seven years ago) link

He's stuck in drum clinic land I guess.

change display name (Jordan), Friday, 24 March 2017 21:04 (seven years ago) link

really feeling this live "cooper world" too:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VypU8zojFsY

a but (brimstead), Friday, 24 March 2017 23:24 (seven years ago) link

coopers world

a but (brimstead), Friday, 24 March 2017 23:24 (seven years ago) link

I'm enjoying the album. How is their first? It looks like it got some pretty nasty reviews, but Pitchfork just ripped the new one apart and it didn't deserve it.

afriendlypioneer, Friday, 24 March 2017 23:30 (seven years ago) link

the "deep fried pizza" on this record slays

increasingly bonkers (rushomancy), Friday, 24 March 2017 23:32 (seven years ago) link

Picked up the Shobaleader album at the weekend and yeah, enjoying it quite a lot. He's picked some great tracks to do, the band are tight, and it certainly beats all those crappy Squarepusher Live recordings he insisted on including on a lot of his releases over the years

Lennon, Elvis, Hendrix etc (dog latin), Monday, 27 March 2017 09:45 (seven years ago) link

Also loving the nonsensical artwork on the inner sleeve.

Lennon, Elvis, Hendrix etc (dog latin), Monday, 27 March 2017 09:48 (seven years ago) link

I reckon that Pitchfork is pretty fair and balanced actually. This is a decent album and good fan-service for people who know his work, but it's not blowing my mind or anything. I'd love to see this happen live though.

Lennon, Elvis, Hendrix etc (dog latin), Monday, 27 March 2017 09:51 (seven years ago) link

A Squarepusher poll wouldn't be a bad shout I reckon. Man's got so much stuff out there, even as a fan I haven't really properly listened to much beyond 2006 beyond cursory listens. Would love some personal best-ofs, especially of the last ten years

Lennon, Elvis, Hendrix etc (dog latin), Monday, 27 March 2017 11:58 (seven years ago) link

I'd be up for running one - not sure it'd attract enough voters to be worth it though.

chap, Monday, 27 March 2017 12:27 (seven years ago) link

I'm enjoying the album. How is their first? It looks like it got some pretty nasty reviews, but Pitchfork just ripped the new one apart and it didn't deserve it

I wasn't into it too much when I first heard it but recently gave it another shake and I thought it was awesome. I think if you dug Just a Souvenir (and I did) you'd probably like it fine. You kinda have to divorce your mind from the Squarepusher thing since subconsciously you always expect some fucked up drum patterns when in reality it's just a fun little synth funk record. The Pitchfork review seems mean - "Daft Punk gone metal gone wrong" seems exactly what people would look for in something like this.

frogbs, Monday, 27 March 2017 12:47 (seven years ago) link

I guess the real question is, will there be a studio record done in this style, written specifically for the band? If not I guess it does seem a bit pointless...

frogbs, Monday, 27 March 2017 12:53 (seven years ago) link

The first Shobaleader sounds a bit like it would work side-by-side with the likes of Thundercat or Dam Funk

Lennon, Elvis, Hendrix etc (dog latin), Monday, 27 March 2017 13:24 (seven years ago) link

Re: the Pitchfork review, a sub-6 for a well executed set of songs seems pretty harsh.

I am disappointed it's a live recording, but I guess they're trying to prove they don't need the studio to pull off the songs?

Anyway, Id like an album of originals next time.

afriendlypioneer, Monday, 27 March 2017 16:27 (seven years ago) link

not sure I agree about the need for a studio album, seens like it would be overkill

a but (brimstead), Monday, 27 March 2017 22:58 (seven years ago) link

Yeah, you're right.

That Boiler Room "Hello Meow" is fantastic.

afriendlypioneer, Monday, 27 March 2017 23:55 (seven years ago) link

two weeks pass...

on a related note, I've been listening to it a lot lately and i've come around to the idea that "hello everything" is his masterpiece

the late great, Wednesday, 12 April 2017 18:06 (seven years ago) link

I'm inclined to agree. He doesn't need abrasive sections where everything goes time-stretched and weird to be good and innovative.

Having said that, I also love Go Plastic.

chap, Wednesday, 12 April 2017 18:12 (seven years ago) link

I haven't listened to the much-maligned "go plastic" / "do you know squarepusher" / "ultravisitor" since they came out, but on the strength of "hello everything" i decided to pick up used copies. excited to give them another listen

the late great, Wednesday, 12 April 2017 18:24 (seven years ago) link

if you're in the right mood for it Go Plastic is amazing. it's like a Ruins album in a way, it sounds incredibly noisy and somewhat random but once you pick apart the interplay between the different elements it starts to sound quite brilliant. that said I can't bring myself to want to hear it often.

Ultravisitor on the other hand, I think that one might be his best, maybe next to HND - its kind of a summation of everything he can do.

frogbs, Wednesday, 12 April 2017 19:18 (seven years ago) link

Ultravisitor on the other hand, I think that one might be his best, maybe next to HND - its kind of a summation of everything he can do.

OTM

Badmotorfinger Debate Club (MFB), Wednesday, 12 April 2017 19:28 (seven years ago) link

Yeah I like Ultravisitor too for similar reasons that I defended Druqks for recently! It's a bit of a demo reel but has some keepers on there (though I like the more mellow fusion stuff like Iambic 9 Poetry and Tetra Sync most)

ultros ultros-ghali, Wednesday, 12 April 2017 19:35 (seven years ago) link

Back in the day I used to hook my iPod up to the speakers across the room when I was playing online poker because my computer speakers sucked. One day "Steinbolt" came up on shuffle and I didn't know what it was, just that it was the craziest and most intense thing I'd ever heard, utterly terrifying but also really awesome (as you can imagine I had the volume cranked up pretty high). Later on I looked to see what it was and was surprised to see it was Squarepusher...I was like, huh, I've listened to this album five or six times, never noticed that track before!

frogbs, Wednesday, 12 April 2017 20:09 (seven years ago) link

Can't get into Ultravisitor, mostly too self-indulgent.

chap, Wednesday, 12 April 2017 23:24 (seven years ago) link

I love how it's hard to tell where the live ends and begins on Ultravisitor, including mashes of live playing with audience chatter merged into studio recordings. I think it's easily his most psychedelic record - an attribute I wouldn't normally give to Squarepusher.

Carlotta's Portrait (Ross), Thursday, 13 April 2017 02:21 (seven years ago) link

Ultravisitor is kind of when I stopped being an avid fan really. Not sure if it's just cos it came out when my interest in Warp/IDM was waning or if it was something else, but every succeeding album only got a couple of cursory plays from me. Sqaurepusher is one of these frustrating artists with a huge back catalogue where each release has at least 2-3 incredible songs surrounded by a lot of padding.

Lennon, Elvis, Hendrix etc (dog latin), Thursday, 13 April 2017 07:49 (seven years ago) link

each release has at least 2-3 incredible songs surrounded by a lot of padding

yeah, i agree with the broad point, though i would put the number of incredible songs on each album as closer to 4-7. of course 4-7 back to back drill and bass workouts might be more fun in theory than in reality, so maybe there is a reason why he pads his albums out.

the late great, Thursday, 13 April 2017 17:11 (seven years ago) link

His best few albums don't have much padding (I think DL and I have disagreed on that point several times before...).

chap, Thursday, 13 April 2017 17:13 (seven years ago) link

yeah i'm not sure "padding" is the right word

the late great, Thursday, 13 April 2017 18:22 (seven years ago) link

Ufabulum's frustratingly good in parts and pieces. like in the opener, 4001, the vibe is super chill/melancholy/reflective, but it jumps straight into a dubious stadium-strobe light-blow yr wad chorus. Static Shock is pretty sweet as well. The album is mastered way too loud, it kills the ears. Sounds too much like anxious, monochrome Decepticons, needs more low key chillness.

braunld (Lowell N. Behold'n), Thursday, 13 April 2017 19:21 (seven years ago) link

few say this, but I like Just A Souvenir. Like miniature prog-jazz tunes played by (yep) robots. Mastered super quietly for some reason, but it's one of the few Squarepusher records I'd call "charming"

Dominique, Thursday, 13 April 2017 19:23 (seven years ago) link

love how dry those first several tracks are on JAS.. it's great

braunld (Lowell N. Behold'n), Thursday, 13 April 2017 19:24 (seven years ago) link

Shobaleader One is so amazing

kurt schwitterz, Thursday, 13 April 2017 19:26 (seven years ago) link

lol I was gonna post in here how much I dug Just a Souvenir and Ufabulum. I think if you're gonna follow Squarepusher it really helps to not have any expectations and just listen with an open mind. With JAS I remember a lot of people being disappointed that Squarepusher would put out such a "dumb" record. For me it was like...I've been waiting years for him to do that. Ufabulum I really thought was great, but as pointed out its just too loud, which I think marred his latest album too. I kinda like it when his music is just brainless and fun.

frogbs, Thursday, 13 April 2017 19:30 (seven years ago) link

The Coathanger (on JAS) is a good curve ball for a mixed tape, and it's dry- almost grip tape, matte as fuck.

braunld (Lowell N. Behold'n), Thursday, 13 April 2017 19:38 (seven years ago) link

two months pass...

you know what, this Shobaleader album rules, I'm listening to it all the time now.

frogbs, Friday, 16 June 2017 02:47 (six years ago) link

two years pass...

Liking the new stuff a lot

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=59ke5hp-p3E

afriendlypioneer, Wednesday, 27 November 2019 20:24 (four years ago) link

Budakhan Mindphone robbed

mfktz (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Wednesday, 27 November 2019 20:52 (four years ago) link

it has one good song, but it's one of his best ones. maybe his best one

YOU CALL THIS JOURNALSIM? (dog latin), Thursday, 28 November 2019 09:08 (four years ago) link

Yeah that's fair (couple of other good ones too though)

That new track is great, has that constant building-up-to-something tension giving an edge to the acid

mfktz (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Thursday, 28 November 2019 09:12 (four years ago) link


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