Star Wars Anthology shit talk (Rogue One, Young Solo, TBD)

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"See, he was Han Duo, then there was an accident. And before that he was 4 Han."

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 23 March 2017 20:11 (seven years ago) link

young Han was in an a capella group but always insisted on singing a fourth below the root bass note at the end of every song

Rachel Luther Queen (DJP), Thursday, 23 March 2017 20:12 (seven years ago) link

Until now, people have assumed that his last name was given as a way to describe his character.

No, I figured he was the son of Mr. and Mrs. Solo, thanks

mh 😏, Thursday, 23 March 2017 20:19 (seven years ago) link

Turns out his dad is

http://images2.fanpop.com/image/photos/13600000/Napoleon-Solo-man-from-uncle-13685361-500-418.jpg

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 23 March 2017 20:20 (seven years ago) link

"we called the dog Han"

Rachel Luther Queen (DJP), Thursday, 23 March 2017 20:20 (seven years ago) link

a+ work nomar

physicist and christian lambert dolphin (bizarro gazzara), Thursday, 23 March 2017 20:25 (seven years ago) link

No, I figured he was the son of Mr. and Mrs. Solo, thanks

― mh 😏, Thursday, March 23, 2017 3:19 PM (fifty-seven minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

is this some viking/sleep ish, because this is also what i always thought -- never occurred to me that his name was a literal indication of his lonertude

jason waterfalls (gbx), Thursday, 23 March 2017 21:19 (seven years ago) link

it's a good pulpy series name, nice and on the nose

mh 😏, Thursday, 23 March 2017 21:21 (seven years ago) link

i can't take credit for that fanfic : /

nomar, Thursday, 23 March 2017 21:21 (seven years ago) link

is this some viking/sleep ish

no

Number None, Thursday, 23 March 2017 21:29 (seven years ago) link

In his despair, Deace is actually getting funny. Thus this in response to Bannon arriving on the scene:

https://twitter.com/SteveDeaceShow/status/845023566663946246

Because it's not already a mess enough, here comes Cousin Eddie to save the Griswold Family Christmas.

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 23 March 2017 21:30 (seven years ago) link

this is not the thread you are looking for

Number None, Thursday, 23 March 2017 21:32 (seven years ago) link

Hahah thank you. A busy day indeed.

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 23 March 2017 21:33 (seven years ago) link

Until now, people have assumed that his last name was given as a way to describe his character.

yes cos in Star Wars movies he is known for travelling alone. we will learn that Chewbacca is actually a figment of his imagination.

AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Thursday, 23 March 2017 22:11 (seven years ago) link

Chewbupagus

how's life, Thursday, 23 March 2017 22:42 (seven years ago) link

fans will keep arguing he's another species completely equal to humans, but everyone else is like "he's han solo's dog"
if you live with a dog you still live alone, sorry, that's the rule

mh 😏, Thursday, 23 March 2017 22:48 (seven years ago) link

NOW it's a sleep/Viking thing

Rachel Luther Queen (DJP), Friday, 24 March 2017 01:08 (seven years ago) link

three weeks pass...

https://image.ibb.co/mmuDWQ/Image_1.jpg

the late great, Wednesday, 19 April 2017 18:26 (seven years ago) link

Harrison Ford is the best

Rachel Luther Queen (DJP), Wednesday, 19 April 2017 19:16 (seven years ago) link

we finally saw this on demand. i thought it was really good! first half was slow and a bit tedious, and they wasted mads mikkelsen, but the back half was fantastic - as good as any of the star wars movies. i thought the whole battle was choreographed + written really well and i was impressed that they had so many theaters of action going on at once and not only did they not totally lose the plot but things tracked visually + narratively. once i figured out that it was about building the death star i was able to guess the rest of the plot (including them all dying - otherwise you'd have to wonder where they were in the original 3) but it didn't make any of it less satisfying. i wasn't sure how they'd handle the final moments (and def didn't guess a CGI princess) and thought maybe they'd just show the back of her head or something. seems like similar tech to what they used in that marilyn monroe commercial?

i read some of the reviews for the movie (a.o. scott in NYT and richard brody in NYer) and they really didn't like it! i feel like maybe they had expectations for it beyond just "enjoyable popcorn flick"???

Mordy, Monday, 1 May 2017 23:22 (seven years ago) link

Glad you liked it! I didn't, but well, I gave my reasons upthread. I do think that it'd be fair to allow it as possible to dislike this precisely because you expected an enjoyable popcorn flick and it didn't deliver what you look for in such. Can't speak for Scott or Brody though.

✓ (Doctor Casino), Tuesday, 2 May 2017 00:03 (seven years ago) link

two weeks pass...

Just got around to seeing this on DVD at home on a 34" television, so nothing like 'home theater'. It hit all the basic dance steps in terms of plot and characters, except the characters never became interesting. None of 'em. They were just there so things could happen in the foreground of the production design, so the costumes had someone to wear them, so the weapons had fingers to pull the triggers and there were mouths to deliver the lines.

But as for the characters being alive and interesting? (shrugs)

This was partly because the written dialogue was weak, but I have to figure the actors could have given their lines much better readings if the director had cared to ask them to. imo this movie was a hugely expensive and elaborate storyboard. The spectacle was there and the action and the music, but it was strangely empty of people (or whatever it is a humanoid inhabitant of another galaxy is supposed to be called.)

A is for (Aimless), Wednesday, 17 May 2017 22:26 (six years ago) link

got around to seeing this where "this" == Rogue One

A is for (Aimless), Wednesday, 17 May 2017 22:32 (six years ago) link

What's the best example of a film with good (define to suit) hero characters who all get killed off?

Think they could've both written and cast Jyn, Cassian and Galen (Mikkelsen only good as villains?) better but the rest were fine for what they get.

nashwan, Wednesday, 17 May 2017 22:36 (six years ago) link

the one thing interesting about the only new villain was that he was a loser bureaucrat trapped in a system that uses people. which unfortunately helped to make the Empire itself seem maybe a little less menacing and less defined as an all-consuming threat.

AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Wednesday, 17 May 2017 22:59 (six years ago) link

the cardboard bad guys in the OT were fine enough imo

AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Wednesday, 17 May 2017 23:01 (six years ago) link

What's the best example of a film with good (define to suit) hero characters who all get killed off?

idk, Reservoir Dogs? Thelma and Louise? Butch Cassidy & the Sundance Kid?

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 17 May 2017 23:01 (six years ago) link

Dr. Strangelove

AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Wednesday, 17 May 2017 23:01 (six years ago) link

Dunno abt "all,'' but a lot of the war movies this one thought it was borrowing from have very high body counts of likable characters - Dirty Dozen, Great Escape. See also Magnificent Seven and many disaster movies (though there a morality-play element favors death for the jerks and crooks, with a few nice folks sacrificed to up the stakes and keep you guessing).

﴿→ ☺ (Doctor Casino), Wednesday, 17 May 2017 23:08 (six years ago) link

how many are left at the end of Seven Samurai... two?

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 17 May 2017 23:10 (six years ago) link

One trope they decisively avoided was having anybody talk about the small business they want to own & operate when they return alive and whole from the war. Presumably volunteer freedom fighters don't talk about such aspirational silliness until fascism is obliterated.

your cognitive privilege (El Tomboto), Wednesday, 17 May 2017 23:24 (six years ago) link

https://thefifiorganization.net/2014site/wp-content/uploads/2014/10/seven_fourgraves.jpg

what about silent running

ogmor, Wednesday, 17 May 2017 23:29 (six years ago) link

"I've just bought my own X-Wing! I'm gonna call it 'the Live Forever'!"

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 17 May 2017 23:29 (six years ago) link

The Black Hole might count, weirdly.

﴿→ ☺ (Doctor Casino), Thursday, 18 May 2017 00:18 (six years ago) link

Dark Star

AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Thursday, 18 May 2017 00:33 (six years ago) link

I learned to work Bantha leather from my uncle. When I get back I'm gonna start my own boot shop. Everyone who's anyone in the galaxy is gonna be wearin bantha boots made by me.

your cognitive privilege (El Tomboto), Thursday, 18 May 2017 00:42 (six years ago) link

lol @ dark star

Black Hole doesn't count because SPOILERS!!! obviously they all go on to colonize a new universe, they remembered to bring a young lady and everything

your cognitive privilege (El Tomboto), Thursday, 18 May 2017 01:14 (six years ago) link

four weeks pass...

Hmmmm

http://www.starwars.com/news/a-message-from-lucasfilm-regarding-the-untitled-han-solo-film

The untitled Han Solo film will move forward with a directorial change.

“Phil Lord and Christopher Miller are talented filmmakers who have assembled an incredible cast and crew, but it’s become clear that we had different creative visions on this film, and we’ve decided to part ways. A new director will be announced soon,” said Kathleen Kennedy, president of Lucasfilm.

“Unfortunately, our vision and process weren’t aligned with our partners on this project. We normally aren’t fans of the phrase ‘creative differences’ but for once this cliché is true. We are really proud of the amazing and world-class work of our cast and crew,” stated Phil Lord and Christopher Miller.

The untitled Han Solo film remains scheduled for a May 2018 release.

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 20 June 2017 23:54 (six years ago) link

That sucks

El Tomboto, Tuesday, 20 June 2017 23:58 (six years ago) link

Yeah I honestly am trying to figure out both why this happened so late in the game and who in the world would be able to pick this up from here.

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 20 June 2017 23:58 (six years ago) link

Weird. It says here the shooting is nearly finished.

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/heat-vision/star-wars-han-solo-film-loses-directors-1015419

jmm, Wednesday, 21 June 2017 00:03 (six years ago) link

sounds like an Edgar Wright/Ant-Man situation

Nhex, Wednesday, 21 June 2017 00:58 (six years ago) link

No, it doesn't. Wright left before production, such that Rudd and Reed had time to rewrite the shooting script. This has been shooting for four months.

Doubtless they are toss. (sic), Wednesday, 21 June 2017 01:33 (six years ago) link

Variety sez

The Han Solo film is still in production with several weeks of re-shoots planned for the summer — which have long been planned.

So maybe this is more of a Gareth Edwards / Tony Gilroy thing, except Lord & Miller would rather Alan Smithee this than have their names on something they aren't allowed to finish.

El Tomboto, Wednesday, 21 June 2017 01:40 (six years ago) link

also it kinda reads like Variety ran that story by Disney first and one of the inside hacks added that em dash with the repetitive choice of verb

El Tomboto, Wednesday, 21 June 2017 01:41 (six years ago) link

Going in for a wild guess here: They were left to work on their own for a good chunk of the shooting process ---Kennedy decided to come in late to watch the work done up until then and flipped out.

Somehow I feel these Disney execs would be better off hiring hack directors they can handhold through the process and get that product out.

Acid Hose (Capitaine Jay Vee), Wednesday, 21 June 2017 01:49 (six years ago) link

i'm 99% of the time on the side of the creatives, but i gotta admit that quality control for the MCU and recent Star Wars films so far has been shockingly good

Nhex, Wednesday, 21 June 2017 01:58 (six years ago) link

Do not hesitate. Show no mercy. Only then will you be strong enough to save Padmé.

the ghost of markers, Wednesday, 21 June 2017 02:02 (six years ago) link


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