frasier - c/d s/d

has the frasierverse been discussed here yet

https://twitter.com/MechaGamezilla/status/840612104948338688

christ that is wild

Rozs char makes for the most wildest of stories

Maris was good for the first 20 seasons, but it really fell off sometime around season 24

http://frasierverse.wikia.com/wiki/Maris

MCTV

MCTV is a fan fiction spin-off based on the American sitcom Frasier. It follows a group of characters introduced in the fourth season of Maris, who work at MCTV, a television station owned by Maris Crane. Currently, there are 108 episode ideas, comprising 6 seasons.

See also: List of MCTV episodes

a fan fiction spin-off, of a fan fiction spin-off, based on an unseen character

looking through the episode summaries for Maris it seems that Maris never actually appears onscreen? makes it even more impressive that they managed to wring 29 seasons from the concept imo

Niles crane blood Prince http://drawbrandondraw.tumblr.com/post/75710995883/comics-bud-zac-gorman-began-putting-together-a

good lord

too "creative"

I'm also currently making my way through the show. Currently halfway through season three, did anything happen at that time? The tone changes, Frasier is off screen a lot. I've heard some stories... Anyway, just saw Moon Dance, the one where Niles and Daphne goes dancing at a fancy ball, and it's honestly a pretty amazing episode. There's a feeling of real hard won affection between the characters, and David Hyde Pierce is absolutely amazing. Frasier is on holiday.

haha that one was good

the innuendos just get better and better

Checked Kelsey Grammers wiki-page. Yeah, season 3, 95-96, seems to be the period where he kinda went off the rails. Honestly I was kinda surprised at the change, it felt as if everyone uses a lower tone of voice, and the stakes are much higher.

iirc, he was doing Down Periscope around the same time...wild times.

if 'niles and daphne have a segway for some reason' isn't tvtropes shorthand for a show's nadir, it should be

Checked Kelsey Grammers wiki-page

<3

Martin: Come on, they're great guys: Stinky, Wolfman, Boom-Boom, Jim. Of course, his name's not really Jim; we call him that because he likes to drink Jim Beam. Just like we call Hank “Bud” because he drinks Budweiser. Come on, you'd love these guys!
Niles: We're sherry drinkers, Dad. Think about it.

Martin earnestly trying to sell his sons on something there's no way they could possibly like is always great, even though it happens about 80 times over the course of the show and you'd think he'd learn better

Martins the shit

Rewatching too.

Hate how most of the one-off characters are so cliche, to the point that I sometimes think it must be deliberate.

Though I do really like the newspaper sales guy who dislikes Frasier from the Focus Group episode.

last half of season 6 dragged on a bit for me

season 7 starts off good -- where he dates his mom (e01) and where carlos and the chicken (e03) make fun of him are classic

I just rewatched "Ham Radio," where Frasier directs a radio mystery. Gil is such a great character.

Gil Chesterton: [Frasier is still casting for his radio play Nightmare Inn] Oh, Frasier. I've had a quick peek at your script and I think I'd be perfect as Bull Kragen, the brutish gamekeeper.

Frasier: You know, Gil. I think that's just a bit too on the nose.

haha ya that's the one i mentioned above

some time in the first season there's a line about him being straight and the delivery is perfect

This was season 5, but:

Roz: We thought Deb was your cat.

Gil Chesterson: She is not a cat! She is Mrs. Gilbert Leslie Chesterton, a Sarah Lawrence graduate, and the owner of a very successful auto body repair shop. Honestly, the conclusions people make, just because a man dresses well and knows how to use a pastry bag!
[he exits]

Frasier: Well, that's the first time I've ever seen a man "in" himself.

haha i remember that one too

Getting through season 8 was a struggle

Spoilers

Halfway through is when niles and daphne finally start dating and it turns a bit soap operay

Season 9 starts out a bit boring, but you can tell they're trying to do something new, with the creative episode (forget which ep#), and frasier thinking about all his past relationships

Martin still remains the elusive one, but what motivated me to post is s09e04 is when he starts his security job and starts thinking about the day he got shot. Out of all the backstories this one struck a chord, as he reminds me of my grandad

S09e05

There once was a man frasier crane
Who says he can feel your pain
But he acts like a snob
To the guys at his job
And i think he's totally lame

I love the Motor Skills ep in season 8

Slowing rewatching this and I'm in early season 9, too. Shocking what a self-serious slog this show became somewhere around season 8. I remember a dip in quality but I didn't remember it being this harsh

watched this episode recently:

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_EqMG0t0vo6k/S8vhrIHgWjI/AAAAAAAAA6s/Av4Jb4aslaY/s1600/Ep28.jpg

decent enough early frasier.

Then i was on a plane and watched the episode "miss right now" from season 11 with jennifer tilly in it and it was god awful. daphne and niels together. frasier being emo about his love-life etc.

the first half of season 9 david hyde pierce (niles) has some major problems staying in character

he goes in and out of his mid-atlantic accent a lot and it's bizarre watching him just totally slack off as an actor

the dip into series 10 is especially stark because it's suddenly in hd. the pacing plummets just as the picture gets crisp, so you can really see those phoned-in performances in exquisite detail.

oh and frasiers ex with the man voice always wearing really REALLY short dresses was kind of wrong too.

lilith is hot as hell, hush your mouth

Angell and his wife, Lynn, were among the passengers of American Airlines Flight 11 killed in the September 11 attacks when the plane was hijacked by members of Al Qaeda and flown into the North Tower of the World Trade Center in New York City in 2001.[1][4][5]

Coincidentally, a 1997 episode of Frasier titled "Odd Man Out" of season 4 episode 24 (an episode which Angell co-wrote) features a woman's voice, Linda Hamilton, on Dr. Frasier Crane's answering machine stating she will arrive into Sea-Tac Airport, though she does not actually say Sea-Tac airport, on American Airlines' Flight 11. The episode was first broadcast on May 27, 1997: 4 years and 3 months later, Angell and his wife perished aboard that same flight. Eerily, in the same episode a couple getting engaged in the same restaurant in which Frasier is dining alone, the man says to his fiancée that if they ever should die he hopes that it's at the same time so they wouldn't have to be apart.

That's horrible

Feel like seasons 2-4ish were the golden years? Just a feeling bc ive not rewatched them since this second time

S09e16 was a good ep after a while. Second half of s08 and first half of s09 are really bad but it's picking up steam again

Anyway this is the one where michael keaton guest stars as an invalid and after a life of decadence and charlatanry becomes a tv evangelist like persona. Probably one of the best episodes of the show

Season 1 is different, but really good in it's own way, imo. To me the golden years are 1-5 and the end is when the season finale for 5 for the first time ends on a cliffhanger. After that, it's much more broadly glotbased, and less about mood and character.

I enjoyed Frasier, but Cheers was so far superior a show.

keaton one was all time, def

Just watched that one too. That bit where Frasier stands up bleating like a sheep, haha

the dip into series 10 is especially stark because it's suddenly in hd. the pacing plummets just as the picture gets crisp, so you can really see those phoned-in performances in exquisite detail.

― early morning reverse rumplestiltskin rage (Autumn Almanac), Thursday, May 4, 2017 3:55 PM (one week ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

holy crap is this ever true

and zooey deschanel as early 2000s hipster/ilxor makes her debut as jen in s10e04

i would say her acting is off if it wasn't for her recognizable ironic/deadpan persona she likes to put on

still needed a bit of work in those early days but she's just about got it

S10e14, 15 and 16 are the only real good ones this season

Some good parts throughout

E12 or 13 might've been good too i last track (and 14 might not have been that good)

On e18 and it's they're revisiting the fancy french bakery and the crane bros are after smuggled beluga caviar

So so

S10e20

Not even Elvis costello (and john hannah) could save this one

or Matt Besser

(although I liked that scene)

Haha that's true

Only the short, understated performances are good now

watching frasier stoned and it occurs to me that the actors playing martin, niles, bulldog, and, the only one playing a gay character - gil are all gay

the guy who plays gil is also charles pahluniak's literary agent

Gil's not gay (or is at least closeted as he has a wife).

(copied from upthread a bit)

Roz: We thought Deb was your cat.

Gil Chesterson: She is not a cat! She is Mrs. Gilbert Leslie Chesterton, a Sarah Lawrence graduate, and the owner of a very successful auto body repair shop. Honestly, the conclusions people make, just because a man dresses well and knows how to use a pastry bag!
[he exits]

Frasier: Well, that's the first time I've ever seen a man "in" himself.

yeah, i seem to remember a piece back in the day remarking that the only (then-outed) gay actor on the cast was the one who played the most testosterone-heavy hetero-sex-pest. is john mahoney officially out? i know he's historically played his cards close to his chest, as far as his private life.

I'm surprised he didn't offer to help Daphne's brother with his Mancunian accent. And Daphne, for that matter.