Dogs & Cats, Living Together: TV's Legion

tbf 1/2 of the stories are about Xavier's intentions being noble and the other half are him doing or admitting to really heinous shit

yeah Mr Veg is getting annoyed that the story isnt going anywhere atm

idk, i still dig it. no clue whats going on really

so lenny is 100% driving the bus now? is that what him in the coffin box in space means?

She/he/it is certainly trying to drive it 100% but not quite succeding, imo. Particulary because Syd has twigged, and is noticing things aren't right. And him being in lerv with her is throwing shit off too.

I'm predicting next weeks ep will be a massive in-brain shitfight.

Though also I'm curious about the Oliver part of things! He seems to be... trying to save them? He managed to get Cary on side (that was Cary in the diving bell at the end, right?)

yeah but idk even know what parts are even actually happening anymore

i mean the house where the gunfight is that they go "back" to is his memory construct too

ack

Hey Trayce, I'm not being clear, I think (or very possibly being dim): when you said "- it was fairly blatantly hinted that his dad is Charles X but I guess that'll all come out soon?", what was the hint, was it just "you have a real father", and we know that in the comic books his dad is Charles X?

I kind of think that any Deus Ex Machina of this figure that we've not seen before turning up (even if he's known in the larger world, and indeed is swearing his bollocks off in cinemas right now) would be a really weird way for the series to go - you have to finish the game with the pieces currently on the board.

The house is real though I think? Isn't that why he took his sister back there?

Not sure if it's been mentioned upthread but season two is a go.

yeah Mr Veg is getting annoyed that the story isnt going anywhere atm

I am with Mr Veg. I'm going to give this till the end of this season, but I fear it just may not be for me. I want my superhero stories to be full of superheroing, not explorations of what it means to be a superhero and what is superheroing anyway? Plus daddy issues, always the daddy issues. Don't get me wrong, I see that it is very good, but it is not what I want.

But there's about a million other superhero shows/movies you can watch if you want that. I'm finding it refreshing that Legion isn't really walking that path.

I've rewatched all six episodes now and it's definitely rewarding. So much to pick up on. Last week's episode had lots of callbacks to the pilot for instance.

And what's with the green dude who hides in the trees/bushes?

I fear that you are getting Trish wrong.

I can see that this is not a thread for complaints, and that's fine. It's not like I'm going to come here and bitch about every episode and my frustration with what I perceive as a disappointing lack of forward momentum. I really just wanted Mr Veg to know he wasn't alone.

I guess we'll find out very soon, but my impression of why Oliver was showing up has to do with where the episode is happening. I think the simulacrum mental institute that David's mind has put them in (being controlled by the malevolent yellow-eyed being) has been constructed on the astral plane. Since David's recently met Oliver on the astral plane, they're neighbors. So Oliver popped out of his little room and noticed there's a mental institute hanging around out there.

Well, we don't know that it's Oliver in the suit at all this episode - it could be Cary?

Maybe!

what was the hint, was it just "you have a real father", and we know that in the comic books his dad is Charles X?

Yeah sorry that was it, and this is just me, but I felt the part where she says to David 'Ive met your father" (or I know your father, whatever it was), felt like that was a callout we're about to hear more about. Maybe I am wrong!

Also no shade on trishy but I dont see this as a superhero show at all, tbh?

I'm his dad

No, I agree that the father is likely to be a element, either in the last two episodes or next season, but tbh with the show as it is now, I wouldn't be surprised if he was someone else.

god i love this show

new one excellent, best episode so far

No, I agree that the father is likely to be a element, either in the last two episodes or next season, but tbh with the show as it is now, I wouldn't be surprised if he was someone else.

I would like to clarify that my remarks here were taken out of context.

I haven't enjoyed any tv-nonsense as much as this since the parallel universes at war with each other in Fringe, which this series sort of reminds me of.

Not since Tomorrow's World have I had so much information dumped on me so elegantly by a TV show. Makes a really nice change from HBO-style sexposition.

haha i don't know how sincere that is, but i hope very because it's how i felt. i like that they waited so long to tell us anything and then did everything at once so you can't be sure what is material and what's colour. the timing was perfect for integrating the exposition into plot and character development, and like so much else with the show it really was done with style.

Hay! Mish! Link-la-ter!
Hay! Mish! Link-la-ter!

That is all.

Also I can't imagine this is a controversial view but it needs said: Aubrey Plaza has been killing it these last two episodes.

otm

xxp it's pronounced Hay-mish...damn

Either way excited to have him back, third-degree burns and all

took a while until i was able to get around to this episode but yes fantastic. glad they doubled down on the silent movie schtick. really want to see cary and oliver do more double act stuff. would be happy if last episode was just a big prison break action sequence, albeit i can't imagine that's where they're going with this

omg i looooooove this show

also who the fuck is cary

i mean i know who he is but i have no memory of him

Holy fuck at this week's episode.

Incredible

I'm not sure I understand the relation between the two clauses there, VG :)

But: He's played by Bill Irwin, he shares a body with Kerry, he seems to be the technical person in Melanie Bird's gang, he was I think first seen putting David into the MRI machine?

ok then who was the vegetative drooling guy they were wheeling around in the wheelchair, that melanie found stabbed in a closet, that they were calling cary

clearly I'm confused

I think you mean Rudy. I read this to try to sort out WTH is going on: http://ew.com/recap/legion-season-1-episode-7/2/

That's Rudy the barely developed character we're supposed to somehow remember anyway, yeah.

rudy. ok got it.

yeah I was like ok I don't remember him AT ALL, why do I care about him?

He's the one that can fling stuff around with his mind.

Yeah, Rudy's the one who flings doors and people over the horizon.

He's the one The Eye was impersonating in the house and was firing the machine gun at David and Syd.

He did seem to disappear from our screens though when they were at the institute type place travelling through David's memories.

Seems like a manifestation of the split personality. I wondered if that was what the main guy really looked like or saw himself.
Wasn't Legion shown as a paraplegic in one of the Xmen films or comic s? Trying to think what happens in X2 but I think Striker brings somebody into play that I thought would be the character. Very powerful psychic.

i did wonder if rudy's absence was a deliberate thing -- like we were meant to think something was up with that. i also didn't know his name until just now

i think there was one title card w/ 'cary!' where 'rudy!' would have made more sense, also

Really explicit Charles Xavier ref in the last episode. While David's in his mind classroom and he talks through being adopted, and left with his adoptive parents, he flashes back to being dropped off and there's a wheelchair with X wheels (plus the cartoon of the fight with the Shadow King totally looks like Charles Xavier).

Not to mention when David (not "Rational Mind David") affects a British accent he sounds remarkably like Patrick Stewart

is that a diff british accent than the actor normally has? i'm not up on regionalisms

Rational David is his natural accent - I'm not sure what voodoo chili is talking about.

There's a very brief moment where David (not Rational David) affects a third accent--when he says "sweetheart it's over I won, give me some sugar..." and his rational mind snarks, "is that a British accent?"

That part is distinctly Patrick Stewart-like

Lol yeah it kinda does, and he's impersonating his dad after defeating the Shadow King at that point

AND chalk dad is bald

He was definitely going a Pat Stew Xavier there for a moment, for sure. do not pretend that it wasnt BECAUSE IT TOTALLY WAS

this show is wonderful