which yes, i assume, they would be able to teach to their children if they have these capabilities
category error
― Οὖτις, Monday, 20 March 2017 17:59 (seven years ago) link
fair enough
but i think it is a theory that is on the right track
― F♯ A♯ (∞), Monday, 20 March 2017 18:01 (seven years ago) link
but i think it is a theory that is on the right track if implemented would probably be close to a humanitarian disaster
fixed
― Οὖτις, Monday, 20 March 2017 18:07 (seven years ago) link
Life is a humanitarian disaster stop abrogating our responsibilities
― The night before all about day (darraghmac), Monday, 20 March 2017 18:17 (seven years ago) link
yr a humanitarian disaster
― Οὖτις, Monday, 20 March 2017 18:19 (seven years ago) link
mordy so two beefs with the pdf you linked (not necessarily about ethics/morality but getting in murky waters here)
With respect to trait EI theory, the finding that a substantial proportion of the construct’s variance is heritable has two importantimplications. First, speculation about the determinants of emotional “intelligence” will now have to take into account the fact that one of the strongest predictors of adolescent trait EI is actually parental trait EI. In combination with the temporal stability that the construct shows even in children (Mavroveli, Petrides, Shove, & Whitehead, in press), this suggests that training and intervention programs, currently popular in educational and business settings, are unlikely to be more successful in changing trait EI than they have been in changing personality more generally (Costa & McCrae, 1986; Norlander, Bergman & Archer, 2002).
maybe i'm about to open a can of worms, so if you don't agree with the conclusion, that's fine, but there's a boy in my family who was diagnosed with autism at a very young age (i want to say 2, but my vague understanding is that he had to be a certain age for the specialist to confirm it). specialist said that if he was enroled in a lot of classes (cognitive, behavioural, etc., not sure what they are called technically) for it, it would improve his diagnosis. anyway, he did attend those classes. fast forward a few years and he looks and sounds like just about a normal boy. if i wouldn't know he had autism, it would be very difficult for me to tell. i have no evidence except this one anecdotal experience, but my point is that i believe it wasn't just classes, but his family that helped too. so, what your pdf concludes goes against these types of programs that clearly work for some, and would be good enough to keep around
and i would like to see the questionnaire the study used, because it does show testing for limited personality traits:
Of course, the main shortcoming of this argument is the absence of an established personality inventory from the research design, which prevents us from examining the phenotypic and genetic correlations that are key to deciding this issue (but see Vernon et al., in press).
― F♯ A♯ (∞), Monday, 20 March 2017 18:19 (seven years ago) link
lol oustic
used to yr hyperbole bud
― F♯ A♯ (∞), Monday, 20 March 2017 18:23 (seven years ago) link
EI in general is ime an incredibly flakey field fwiw, even in comparison to notoriously flakey IQ studies.
― Mordy, Monday, 20 March 2017 18:30 (seven years ago) link
sociology and psychology are not all bad
― F♯ A♯ (∞), Monday, 20 March 2017 18:34 (seven years ago) link
everything is bad
― mark s, Monday, 20 March 2017 18:36 (seven years ago) link
and it's getting worse
EI only a cut about anything related to the arts or humanities as a field of study
― The night before all about day (darraghmac), Monday, 20 March 2017 18:38 (seven years ago) link
had a little too much corned beef friday
that may have been bad for me
― F♯ A♯ (∞), Monday, 20 March 2017 18:44 (seven years ago) link
so glad we replaced the conversation about having kids as a necessary cost of keeping a good fuck-buddy handy with a conversation about weeding out unsuitable stock
― SFTGFOP (El Tomboto), Monday, 20 March 2017 18:49 (seven years ago) link
look I did what I could but there are only so many Genes
― Rachel Luther Queen (DJP), Monday, 20 March 2017 18:51 (seven years ago) link
getting back on trackhttps://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/dd/GeneColan6.13.09ByLuigiNovi.jpg/220px-GeneColan6.13.09ByLuigiNovi.jpg
― Οὖτις, Monday, 20 March 2017 18:54 (seven years ago) link
http://68.media.tumblr.com/27ea09645c0da2f704362df2d28c4879/tumblr_inline_np9cjkLp4l1tqm5y1_500.gif
― the raindrops and drop tops of lived, earned experience (BradNelson), Monday, 20 March 2017 18:55 (seven years ago) link
https://images.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=https%3A%2F%2Ftse1.mm.bing.net%2Fth%3Fid%3DOIP.6P_XemEf9Y8igsp7Mnw-ywEsCo%26pid%3D15.1&f=1
― Οὖτις, Monday, 20 March 2017 18:57 (seven years ago) link
Twas a shit derail tbf
Animals are better than kids because you can eat animals.
Your move, kid lovers
― The night before all about day (darraghmac), Monday, 20 March 2017 19:15 (seven years ago) link
You can eat kids
― Pengest & Corsa (Noodle Vague), Monday, 20 March 2017 19:17 (seven years ago) link
if you eat a baby goat, all bases are covered
― Rachel Luther Queen (DJP), Monday, 20 March 2017 19:18 (seven years ago) link
Noble Irish heritage of arguing for this
― Pengest & Corsa (Noodle Vague), Monday, 20 March 2017 19:18 (seven years ago) link
There was a famine on and also we had company
― The night before all about day (darraghmac), Monday, 20 March 2017 19:19 (seven years ago) link
reminds me of dude that ate human brain not too long ago
https://www.rt.com/viral/380197-cnn-hindu-aslan-aghori-brain/
― F♯ A♯ (∞), Monday, 20 March 2017 19:22 (seven years ago) link
"Eating brains, that's where I'm a lion"
― Pengest & Corsa (Noodle Vague), Monday, 20 March 2017 19:31 (seven years ago) link
still amused ∞ kept calling Outis "oustic".
― waht, I am true black metal worrior (Neanderthal), Monday, 20 March 2017 20:07 (seven years ago) link
Pronounced "Eustace"
― SFTGFOP (El Tomboto), Monday, 20 March 2017 20:27 (seven years ago) link
Don't have kids. If you've had kids, raise them not to have kids. Also, sterilize your pets. (Don't sterilize your kids.)
― I have measured out my life in coffee shop loyalty cards (silby), Tuesday, 9 October 2018 01:56 (five years ago) link
― mark s, Monday, March 20, 2017 11:36 AM (one year ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― I have measured out my life in coffee shop loyalty cards (silby), Tuesday, 9 October 2018 01:57 (five years ago) link
i don't have kids
but mind yr own fuckin business
― mookieproof, Tuesday, 9 October 2018 02:00 (five years ago) link
something something something
― I have measured out my life in coffee shop loyalty cards (silby), Tuesday, 9 October 2018 02:23 (five years ago) link
Don't have kids.
― macropuente (map), Tuesday, 9 October 2018 03:11 (five years ago) link
ive had dogs and a kid. kids are better. and i used to love my dogs but i dont give a FUCK about them now.
― 21st savagery fox (m bison), Tuesday, 9 October 2018 03:27 (five years ago) link
whether you have kids or don't have kids. my advice is to find ways to maximize your outlets for giving and receiving unselfish love. you'll still suffer, like all of us must, but at least your suffering will have meaning.
― A is for (Aimless), Tuesday, 9 October 2018 03:31 (five years ago) link
Don't have kids myself, only have a godchild, and I've never experienced such love
I worry though about the future world she is going to experience
― Dan S, Tuesday, 9 October 2018 03:47 (five years ago) link
Seems kinda selfish to have a kid just so your suffering will have meaning
― I have measured out my life in coffee shop loyalty cards (silby), Tuesday, 9 October 2018 03:51 (five years ago) link
um, that's not what I recommended, silby. read it again.
― A is for (Aimless), Tuesday, 9 October 2018 03:52 (five years ago) link
I'm in a mood don't worry about me
― I have measured out my life in coffee shop loyalty cards (silby), Tuesday, 9 October 2018 03:56 (five years ago) link
love is real but i think people make a tragic mistake when they believe it can be selfless. not having children now seems like a very loving thing to do. not just 'not having children' but the way of life that it implicates.
― macropuente (map), Tuesday, 9 October 2018 04:06 (five years ago) link
men: get a vasectomy
― macropuente (map), Tuesday, 9 October 2018 04:11 (five years ago) link
get a vasectomy
done and dusted. back in 1993.
― A is for (Aimless), Tuesday, 9 October 2018 04:17 (five years ago) link
in genuine admiration
― macropuente (map), Tuesday, 9 October 2018 04:18 (five years ago) link
lol
― Dan S, Tuesday, 9 October 2018 04:20 (five years ago) link
can we get separate vasectomies or do we all need to share aimless' vasectomy?
― for i, sock in enumerate (Sufjan Grafton), Tuesday, 9 October 2018 04:20 (five years ago) link
I heard South Dakota is considering legislation to make all men getting vasectomies watch films about fetal development, talking about their perfect little fingers and toes at sixteen weeks. nope. just kidding. Old white men don't give a shit if men get snipped. They only want to dictate what women do with their bodies.
― A is for (Aimless), Tuesday, 9 October 2018 04:34 (five years ago) link
'the world is terrible don't have children that could work to make it better' is a level of defeatism i can't get with rn
― canary christ (stevie), Tuesday, 9 October 2018 11:51 (five years ago) link
like, pieces of shit aren't stopping having children, cf dtjr
yeah but the kids im not having wint have to fuckin deal with them
― Dmac TT (darraghmac), Tuesday, 9 October 2018 14:16 (five years ago) link
imo the argument about defeatism can be turned on head
"oh welp hasnt worked out, replicate quick!"
― Dmac TT (darraghmac), Tuesday, 9 October 2018 14:17 (five years ago) link
thats not a serious argument but then there are no serious arguments