SPIN Alternative Record Guide (1995) Top 100 Alternative Albums (1-50)

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Think this may be partly a US/UK difference - Soulwax reissued Liquid Liquid in the 1990s, SoulJazz reissued ESG same sort of time, so they def weren't ignored or forgotten groups in Britain (ESG had also been spun a lot at the Hacienda).

Bernie Lugg (Ward Fowler), Wednesday, 15 March 2017 16:21 (eight months ago) Permalink

Beastie Boys/Luscious Jackson were hyping ESG at the height of the Grand Royal era. LJ used to cover ESG stuff live.

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 15 March 2017 17:07 (eight months ago) Permalink

my intro to Miles' electric/funk period was a huge retrospective in Motorbooty, doesn't get any more 90s alt than that

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 15 March 2017 17:08 (eight months ago) Permalink

hmm iirc Bitches Brew was the only Jazz album on that Rolling Stone Best 100 Albums of the Past 20 Years list in '87. Maybe Miles was too much of a token artist for SPIN at that point.

duped and used by my worst Miss U (President Keyes), Wednesday, 15 March 2017 17:13 (eight months ago) Permalink

Miles was also cited by aural auteurs of the DJ-producer persuasion (mostly in Wire but still) re the cutnpaste flow, never mind the turntables----do we really think his electric music made less of a widespread, sometimes deep impression on musos and other listeners of the 90s than the guys who did get in, than Bailey and Zorn, say? C'mon, it's a gap. But maybe the Miles reviewer didn't make deadline either,

dow, Wednesday, 15 March 2017 17:57 (eight months ago) Permalink

why is the complete on the corner session box like $200 now

Whiney G. Weingarten, Wednesday, 15 March 2017 17:58 (eight months ago) Permalink

I would kill for every back issue of Motorbooty.

Loud guitars shit all over "Bette Davis Eyes" (NYCNative), Wednesday, 15 March 2017 18:00 (eight months ago) Permalink

Christgau wrote about Dark Magus, Panthalassa, and Black Beauty in the late '90s; it's how I learned about the first album.

the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 15 March 2017 18:00 (eight months ago) Permalink

xpost Ridiculous box, if it's the one I heard: goes way past anything relevant to the original LP, just because he was recording so much in the same time frame. xxpost It's not like Miles don't and didn't get no respect plenty of elsewheres, but having all those electric albums in the Guide might have been a revelation to some, and handy to more.

dow, Wednesday, 15 March 2017 18:02 (eight months ago) Permalink

Yeah xgau covered Miles pretty well, incl. the comeback.

dow, Wednesday, 15 March 2017 18:03 (eight months ago) Permalink

why is the complete on the corner session box like $200 now

― Whiney G. Weingarten, Wednesday, March 15, 2017 1:58 PM (five minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

bc it's out of print iirc

marcos, Wednesday, 15 March 2017 18:04 (eight months ago) Permalink

Ridiculous box, if it's the one I heard: goes way past anything relevant to the original LP, just because he was recording so much in the same time frame

otm, the material from these sessions got issued across like four albums iirc

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 15 March 2017 18:06 (eight months ago) Permalink

Right, and four distinctly different albums!

dow, Wednesday, 15 March 2017 18:07 (eight months ago) Permalink

columbia does all this cool miles stuff that immediately goes out of print

https://www.discogs.com/Miles-Davis-The-Complete-Columbia-Album-Collection/release/2019307

Whiney G. Weingarten, Wednesday, 15 March 2017 18:08 (eight months ago) Permalink

Prob cos Miles heads already have all or as much of that stuff as they can afford, and then some.

dow, Wednesday, 15 March 2017 18:12 (eight months ago) Permalink

Columbia can then backdoor sell the deleted Complete dognose where (Russia, Japan?)

dow, Wednesday, 15 March 2017 18:13 (eight months ago) Permalink

The oligarchs prob already got it all also.

dow, Wednesday, 15 March 2017 18:13 (eight months ago) Permalink

Columbia used to reissue the metal-spine Miles boxes as much cheaper longbox-shaped sets. But the On the Corner set apparently didn't sell well enough to justify a cheaper reissue (and it was prohibitively expensive when it was in print, iirc).

Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Wednesday, 15 March 2017 19:59 (eight months ago) Permalink

yeah, a few of those sets could be had for very cheap at some point (maybe still) but things like OTC and the cellar door tapes never got a cheaper reissue afaik. which is lame.

tylerw, Wednesday, 15 March 2017 20:13 (eight months ago) Permalink

I have that miles columbia box, whiney

Odysseus, Wednesday, 15 March 2017 20:14 (eight months ago) Permalink

i do regret not buying the OTC box and the other ones but I couldnt afford it. I only have the in a silent way box. The complete columbia only has the actual albums

Odysseus, Wednesday, 15 March 2017 20:18 (eight months ago) Permalink

I would kill for every back issue of Motorbooty.

― Loud guitars shit all over "Bette Davis Eyes" (NYCNative), Wednesday, March 15, 2017 11:00 AM (two hours ago)

twice, even

Not raving but drooling (contenderizer), Wednesday, 15 March 2017 20:43 (eight months ago) Permalink

big chief were kind of bad tho

Not raving but drooling (contenderizer), Wednesday, 15 March 2017 20:44 (eight months ago) Permalink

OTC box is definitely the best one imo

marcos, Wednesday, 15 March 2017 20:53 (eight months ago) Permalink

Big Chief is a bit like Kyuss in what they were doing kinda fit more to the late 90s than when the records were actually coming out. The guitar playing and riffs on those Big Chief records are great. They are one of those bands I liked much more years later and have listened to them quite a bit the past few years.

earlnash, Wednesday, 15 March 2017 21:23 (eight months ago) Permalink

Big Chief definitely fits along side the stoner rock bands like Fu Manchu, Clutch, Kyuss etc. than the grunge bands.

earlnash, Wednesday, 15 March 2017 21:25 (eight months ago) Permalink

I fucking loved Big Chief!

Loud guitars shit all over "Bette Davis Eyes" (NYCNative), Wednesday, 15 March 2017 21:35 (eight months ago) Permalink

re: big chief

i dug the early singles ("chrome helmet", "get down & double check", "time dirt money", the surprisingly good "superstupid" cover), but the albums were relatively short on punk energy & hooks. and the fake blaxploitation shtick never sat right. prescient in retrospect, tho.

Not raving but drooling (contenderizer), Wednesday, 15 March 2017 21:47 (eight months ago) Permalink

four weeks pass...

Automatic thread bump. This poll is closing tomorrow.

System, Wednesday, 12 April 2017 00:01 (eight months ago) Permalink

So unfucking fair to have to (with Whiney's Glock at my head) vote for just one, but: VU & Nico---what other has such range & depth, groovy toons & scary sounds incl. some of the words etc., so limber & locked etc.? And even if there are several, can't vote for more than one, but mention 'em anyway.

dow, Wednesday, 12 April 2017 00:25 (eight months ago) Permalink

VU & Nico---what other has such range & depth, groovy toons & scary sounds incl. some of the words etc., so limber & locked etc.?

It Takes a Nation of Millions to Hold Us Back?

the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 12 April 2017 00:29 (eight months ago) Permalink

I hear young ppl aren't feeling that one

duped and used by my worst Miss U (President Keyes), Wednesday, 12 April 2017 12:49 (eight months ago) Permalink

If I could pick more than one, I'd pick that (not being burdened with youth).

dow, Wednesday, 12 April 2017 18:14 (eight months ago) Permalink

But before it, maybe one not quite so testosterone-(almost?)-only.

dow, Wednesday, 12 April 2017 18:17 (eight months ago) Permalink

nation of millions or 3ft high.

pandemic, Wednesday, 12 April 2017 18:24 (eight months ago) Permalink

Second Johnny Fever's preference of Wild Planet.
Overrated: Mekons Fear and whiskey. Does anyone actually listen to the Mekons? Zzz.

campreverb, Wednesday, 12 April 2017 18:46 (eight months ago) Permalink

I still like Fear and Whiskey, esp. as the main part of their Original Sin round-up. Also really enjoy their 2016 album Existentialism, which is rough and slick in all the right ways.

dow, Wednesday, 12 April 2017 19:28 (eight months ago) Permalink

where is Third Eye Blind's first record?

Van Horn Street, Wednesday, 12 April 2017 22:45 (eight months ago) Permalink

Automatic thread bump. This poll's results are now in.

System, Thursday, 13 April 2017 00:01 (seven months ago) Permalink

damn! What a spread!

the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 13 April 2017 00:26 (seven months ago) Permalink

lmao i think i was the winning vote for zen arcade

ToddBonzalez (BradNelson), Thursday, 13 April 2017 00:29 (seven months ago) Permalink

was Shoot Out the Lights even discussed upthread

the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 13 April 2017 00:30 (seven months ago) Permalink

I wish it had been. Shoot Out the Lights is a great album.

banjoboy, Thursday, 13 April 2017 02:12 (seven months ago) Permalink

glad to see Murmur do so well.

Van Horn Street, Thursday, 13 April 2017 02:28 (seven months ago) Permalink

Shoot Out the Lights is one of hose albums I've introduced to friends, and they've responded "Dammmmmn" but tend to forget it when naming their favorite albums.

the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 13 April 2017 02:44 (seven months ago) Permalink

*those

the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 13 April 2017 02:44 (seven months ago) Permalink


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