*revisits debut**finds it difficult to not vote for every song on the debut already*― the raindrops and drop tops of lived, earned experience (BradNelson)
*finds it difficult to not vote for every song on the debut already*
― the raindrops and drop tops of lived, earned experience (BradNelson)
Same. Now listening to the 1975 CBS Demos (crispy demos!), which are totally amazing. Pre-Jerry. Most songs played are significantly faster than their definite versions.
― willem, Tuesday, 14 March 2017 21:01 (seven years ago) link
i know this isn't comprehensive, but are there any other solo/collabs that i should be reviewing before voting?
Byrne - Catherine Wheel (1981)Byrne - Rei Momo (1989)Byrne - The Forest (1991)Byrne - Uh-Oh (1992)Byrne - David Byrne (1994)Byrne - Feelings (1997)Byrne - Look into the Eyeball (2001)Byrne - Grown Backwards (2004)
Byrne/Eno - My Life in the Bush of Ghosts (1981)Byrne/Eno - Everything That Happens Will Happen Today (2008)
Byrne/St. Vincent - Love This Giant (2012)
Weymouth/Frantz/Harrison - Tom Tom Club (1981)Weymouth/Frantz/Harrison - Close to the Bone (1983)
Harrison - The Red and the Black (1981)Harrison - Casual Gods (1988)Harrison - Walk on Water (1990)
Harrison/Modern Lovers - Modern Lovers (1972/76)
The Heads (Weymouth/Frantz/Harrison) - No Talking Just Head - 1996
― Karl Malone, Tuesday, 14 March 2017 21:03 (seven years ago) link
Byrnen's eponymous 1994 album (for which he grew long singer-songwriter hair) is his best solo work after TCW.
Rei Momo remains a product of its time. My college station played "Make Believe Mambo" often; it got me to check out the Heads stuff, so it worked.
― the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 14 March 2017 21:05 (seven years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0dSMCIB8pfQ
― Pengest & Corsa (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 14 March 2017 21:05 (seven years ago) link
I liked this, essentially more "Naked:"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Ls18cKIL3o
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 14 March 2017 21:06 (seven years ago) link
I want to say there was a lot of Uh Oh I liked. But it's been yeeeeeeeears.
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 14 March 2017 21:07 (seven years ago) link
what about byrne's side of The Last Emperor? i'm not sure i can get through all this before the poll but i aim to try. i've listened to a fair amount of byrne's solo and collab work, but zero jerry harrison solo. i skimmed a few tracks in a record store once (i think from the Red and the Black?) and was completely appalled
― Karl Malone, Tuesday, 14 March 2017 21:11 (seven years ago) link
I liked Uh Oh a lot in 1992! I saw his tour on its Miami stop (he always stopped in Miami) -- one of the most thrilling shows I've seen, although I'll admit that I'd seen SMS for the first time only two months earlier and was thus ready to be blown away. The horn section worked. He danced like a fiend and opened and closed the show with acoustic cuts ("Nothing But Flowers," "And She Was," "Psycho Killer").
― the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 14 March 2017 21:24 (seven years ago) link
television man is pretty good. road to nowhere is kinda sweet but there's too much oompah-pah on those albums for me to really love them― Lennon, Elvis, Hendrix etc (dog latin)
― Lennon, Elvis, Hendrix etc (dog latin)
always loved zydeco, so squeezebox oompa-pa sits okay w/ me
― Not raving but drooling (contenderizer), Tuesday, 14 March 2017 23:24 (seven years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3YDFTq4h0a8
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 15 March 2017 00:03 (seven years ago) link
please don't post that
― Not raving but drooling (contenderizer), Wednesday, 15 March 2017 00:15 (seven years ago) link
yeah I like "Television Man" -- the way the band breaks down its constituent instrumental parts, climaxing with Byrne's ugly guitar solo. It's on my ballot. My AOR station actually played it a few times in the early '90s.
― the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 15 March 2017 00:23 (seven years ago) link
do u know about the 12" extended version?
https://www.discogs.com/Talking-Heads-And-She-Was-Television-Man/release/148842'
That's one of my favorite Little Creatures tracks and contrary to dog latin's opinion above I believe it could have fit right in on MSABAF, along with some other Little Creatures songs.
― sleeve, Wednesday, 15 March 2017 00:46 (seven years ago) link
For Your Consideration:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eDARzui4zPg
― some sad trombone Twilight Zone shit (cryptosicko), Wednesday, 15 March 2017 02:10 (seven years ago) link
it's hard for me to post during the day from work.
― Bee OK, Wednesday, 15 March 2017 02:25 (seven years ago) link
Lol I can put "Roadrunner" in my top 10 Other Group tracks, can't I. Seems weird
yeap, i leave this to every person but personally i'm not going to include any Modern Lovers tracks in my solo submission. though they technically do count.
― Bee OK, Wednesday, 15 March 2017 02:29 (seven years ago) link
are the songs from it that Talking Heads performed on the Stop Making Sense tour eligible for both they solo & band track polls then?
i think Stop Making Sense stuff should go on the Talking Heads side but if you feel inclined to vote for it on the solo side i won't stop that.
― Bee OK, Wednesday, 15 March 2017 02:36 (seven years ago) link
How will the poll differentiate between studio and live versions? Cause the Name of This Band version of "Houses in Motion" stomps all over the studio version.
i will add the two together for the numbering of the poll but going to try and break down which version was voted for in the tally. something like Stop Making Sense version 20 votes...
― Bee OK, Wednesday, 15 March 2017 02:39 (seven years ago) link
Wait so just so this is clear: we are not voting for "Name of this Band is version of..." or "Stop Making Sense version of..." or "album version of..." tracks separately, or even specifying which version of the song we're voting for, just voting for the song full stop? Where the ranking is implicitly understood to mean "ranking of my personal favorite recording of this track?"
just vote for each song once and specify which version you are voting for. i will try and break down which version got how many votes.
i do say try but if i get something like 80 ballots i might not be able to do this.
― Bee OK, Wednesday, 15 March 2017 02:47 (seven years ago) link
I grew up with TH - I can remember my dad playing the true stories tape - but now I just think they try too hard to be fun and try too hard to be funky and end up being neither. And DB seems like a real annoying cat who's into dada and making art for art's sake, neither of which I have time for
― calstars, Wednesday, 15 March 2017 02:47 (seven years ago) link
waht
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ewY34GqbRkA
― sleeve, Wednesday, 15 March 2017 03:00 (seven years ago) link
I don't think Modern Lovers should count for anything in this poll, since Modern Lovers and Harrison's involvement preceded the Talking Heads. I also don't think Robert Palmer's "Clues" would count just because Chris Franz plays drums on it.
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 15 March 2017 03:09 (seven years ago) link
i'm in the middle of watching Stop Making Sense and see the confusion with "What A Day That Was." i think where the song originally comes from is where you should place it. so in this instance it should be under the solo stuff.
― Bee OK, Wednesday, 15 March 2017 05:29 (seven years ago) link
i also see that SMS was filmed in Los Angeles, i could have conceivable gone to that show, but was really too young.
― Bee OK, Wednesday, 15 March 2017 05:30 (seven years ago) link
Should be top 5 solo:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dzBS7bGJaDA
― mig (guess that dreams always end), Wednesday, 15 March 2017 05:55 (seven years ago) link
This is rather lovely: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6DQyusKTAh4
― Lennon, Elvis, Hendrix etc (dog latin), Wednesday, 15 March 2017 08:46 (seven years ago) link
My Talking Heads journey is all arse-about-face. Which is to say, 'Nothing But Flowers' was my entry point, and I can't shake it as being my favourite track, despite not liking the rest of the album all that much at all.
Will add my tiny hands to the Catherine Wheel Mexican wave. Brilliant.
― The shard-borne beetle with his drowsy hums (Chinaski), Wednesday, 15 March 2017 10:49 (seven years ago) link
Yes but let me ask the question everyone's been dancing around: can we vote for the Jerry Harrison-produced Rusted Root album
― Vinnie, Wednesday, 15 March 2017 13:49 (seven years ago) link
hahaha
― sleeve, Wednesday, 15 March 2017 13:59 (seven years ago) link
How about the Chris and Tina produced Ziggy Marley album? It's ok.
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 15 March 2017 14:38 (seven years ago) link
I like "Tomorrow People."
― the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 15 March 2017 14:39 (seven years ago) link
Not eligible because it's a sample, but wanted to post anyway
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TCBYPwT912M
― Whiney G. Weingarten, Wednesday, 15 March 2017 14:43 (seven years ago) link
Any excuse to post this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ryAQEK4IyG8
― neva missa lost, wednesday nights on abc (voodoo chili), Wednesday, 15 March 2017 14:59 (seven years ago) link
I kind of like the C&T produced Happy Mondays record.
― You're going to see a lot of love. Okay? Thank you. (Dan Peterson), Wednesday, 15 March 2017 15:29 (seven years ago) link
Definitely going to aim to get a ballot in for this one, even though I'm a bit patchy on the post-Speaking In Tongues output (good opportunity to rectify that obv.)
― least virile man on the list (Mr Andy M), Wednesday, 15 March 2017 23:20 (seven years ago) link
the full Stop Making Sense movie is on-line: https://youtu.be/ewJ04OOrNA8
― Bee OK, Thursday, 16 March 2017 01:46 (seven years ago) link
Look over there. A dry ice factory.
― kornrulez6969, Thursday, 16 March 2017 02:01 (seven years ago) link
all the Speaking in Tongues material sounds much better on Stop Making Sense
― Brad C., Thursday, 16 March 2017 02:21 (seven years ago) link
agree tho speaking in tongues has grown on me a lot over the last couple years
they did pull up the roots as a first encore, before crosseyed & painless, for awhile on the 83 tour, wish that had made the movie
― sciatica, Thursday, 16 March 2017 03:18 (seven years ago) link
Pull Up The Roots is so good. I'd have loved a SMS version. Aztec Camera's 'Somewhere In My Heart' has a similar chorus and I wonder if they inadvertently ripped it off.
― Lennon, Elvis, Hendrix etc (dog latin), Thursday, 16 March 2017 11:27 (seven years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JbnQJmtFKHg this bootleg of it is great
― ufo, Thursday, 16 March 2017 11:59 (seven years ago) link
I liked /Uh Oh/ a lot in 1992! I saw his tour on its Miami stop (he always stopped in Miami) -- one of the most thrilling shows I've seen, although I'll admit that I'd seen SMS for the first time only two months earlier and was thus ready to be blown away.
I'm still a fan of "She's Mad" and "Monkey Man," but I'm not sure whether this was ahead of its time, embarrassingly dated or both:
He is a boyYou are a girlAnd you will always stay that wayBut there are peopleIn this worldWho'd like to change what nature madeAnd if you take that decisionThey they will made that incision ? down belowThe birds and the beesAre singin' for meAnd this is the song I heard them singin'Tweedle dee deeTweedle dee deeBut I never heard a word they're tellin' meOh little girlPlease understandAnd listen to the words I sayI was your dadNow I'm your momI hope you'll comprehend somedayI didn't mean to confuse youAnd now I know that it's hard to understandThe birds and the beesAre singin' for meBut I never heard a word they're sayin'Tweedle dee deeTweedle dee deeFreedom of choice is what they're bringin'And when Columbus sailedUpon that mighty seaWell, we are just like himYes, we are pioneersInto the great unknownThe wild unchartered landsThere ain't no turnin' backAin't gonna be no chains on meWho would ever believeCaterpillars like meTurning into a butterflyWell, I was suddenly freeThe birds and the beesAre singin' for meAnd this is the song I heard them singin'Tweedle dee deeTweedle dee deeFreedom of choice is what they're bringin'You know I'm man enoughAin't gonna run and hideMy love is mighty toughMy love is mighty wildI got a pair a wingsAnd I'm gonna fly awayToo late to turn back nowTomorrow came today ? for me
And if you take that decisionThey they will made that incision ? down below
The birds and the beesAre singin' for meAnd this is the song I heard them singin'Tweedle dee deeTweedle dee deeBut I never heard a word they're tellin' me
Oh little girlPlease understandAnd listen to the words I sayI was your dadNow I'm your momI hope you'll comprehend someday
I didn't mean to confuse youAnd now I know that it's hard to understand
The birds and the beesAre singin' for meBut I never heard a word they're sayin'Tweedle dee deeTweedle dee deeFreedom of choice is what they're bringin'
And when Columbus sailedUpon that mighty seaWell, we are just like himYes, we are pioneers
Into the great unknownThe wild unchartered landsThere ain't no turnin' backAin't gonna be no chains on me
Who would ever believeCaterpillars like meTurning into a butterflyWell, I was suddenly free
The birds and the beesAre singin' for meAnd this is the song I heard them singin'Tweedle dee deeTweedle dee deeFreedom of choice is what they're bringin'
You know I'm man enoughAin't gonna run and hideMy love is mighty toughMy love is mighty wild
I got a pair a wingsAnd I'm gonna fly awayToo late to turn back nowTomorrow came today ? for me
― Naive Teen Idol, Thursday, 16 March 2017 13:00 (seven years ago) link
It wasn't until some time around 2000 that I realized Talking Heads was the band behind "Swamp".
Always thought it was Webb Wilder or someone.
― pplains, Thursday, 16 March 2017 13:11 (seven years ago) link
For a band I love as much as Talking Heads, I really don't like a lot of their music. I don't know why, but 77 and Fear of Music just does nothing. More Songs About Buildings and Food, though, I like the whole way through. Wonder why that is.
― Frederik B, Thursday, 16 March 2017 14:17 (seven years ago) link
Fear of Music might be my favorite TH album.
― pplains, Thursday, 16 March 2017 14:26 (seven years ago) link
after a preliminary ballot (I got up to 21 just from memory) I can see that More Songs is by far my least favorite of the first four.
― sleeve, Thursday, 16 March 2017 14:43 (seven years ago) link
I think the production on that is just more to my taste. Remain in Light my favorite by a long shot.
― Frederik B, Thursday, 16 March 2017 14:50 (seven years ago) link
nearly 35 years down the road, speaking in tongues is still far & away my favorite talking heads album. that it was my entry point undoubtedly has everything to do with that. i recognize that they were taking much bigger artistic risks on fear of music and remain in light, developing their own musical language, but song-for-song, i just can't deny the tongues.
― Not raving but drooling (contenderizer)
i used to be one of those "eno or nothing" snobs but the recent reissue where all the songs are between five and six minutes long is just fabulous, they're all just monster jams.
"fear of music" i love because of the process. there are really interesting and different alternate versions of most of the songs, whereas with remain in light the results are great but the process was less freewheeling.
talking heads obscurities i want to rep for:
i zimbra - 12" eno mix - mostly similar but gets very weird in the last minute
dancing for money - i kind of think of this as talking heads' version of "aguas de marco", same kind of goofy vocal interplay between byrne and eno
questions for lovers - unissued th original played live early in '77
1, 2, 3, red light - great 1910 fruitgum company cover they did in '77
― increasingly bonkers (rushomancy), Thursday, 16 March 2017 14:52 (seven years ago) link
More Songs largely does feel like more songs from 77 that aren't quite as good on average, though I'm Not In Love is one of their very best
― ufo, Thursday, 16 March 2017 14:56 (seven years ago) link