The Name of This POLL Is...- ILM artist poll #82 - TALKING HEADS - (voting is open until Sunday March 26, 2017)

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aww i love the james brown part of genius of love

― neva missa lost, wednesday nights on abc (voodoo chili), T

he is the Godfather of Soul, y'all!

the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 14 March 2017 16:43 (seven years ago) link

voodoo, i want to understand, i want to love, i do

Karl Malone, Tuesday, 14 March 2017 16:43 (seven years ago) link

I don't feel particularly strongly about the Frantz parts. They're just part of the song. They're worse on the live version though.

Lennon, Elvis, Hendrix etc (dog latin), Tuesday, 14 March 2017 16:44 (seven years ago) link

I am intimately familiar with the first four or so albums and love them dearly--I need to dig a little deeper into the '80s for this poll, but I could prob make a 25-track ballot with just those songs.

neva missa lost, wednesday nights on abc (voodoo chili), Tuesday, 14 March 2017 16:45 (seven years ago) link

aww i love the james brown part of genius of love

me too. same way i love the "knight in shining armor" part of emotional rescue.

Not raving but drooling (contenderizer), Tuesday, 14 March 2017 16:47 (seven years ago) link

Bohannon! Bohannon! Bohannon!

You're going to see a lot of love. Okay? Thank you. (Dan Peterson), Tuesday, 14 March 2017 16:48 (seven years ago) link

The Naked thread I started years ago has whatI thought was a fascinating discussion about the quickness with which the Heads' rep crashed after 1986 when they were, before R.E.M., the biggest college band in America.

the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 14 March 2017 16:49 (seven years ago) link

as someone who was following them at the time, True Stories was considered a huge letdown among nearly everyone I knew

sleeve, Tuesday, 14 March 2017 16:50 (seven years ago) link

people were mostly still on board for Little Creatures

sleeve, Tuesday, 14 March 2017 16:50 (seven years ago) link

Coming of age in the 90s, I never heard anything about Talking Heads at all. It's like they'd been wiped from the collective memory. It wasn't until X-Press 2 and the whole DFA thing that I guess they came back into favour. Naked is a decent album. It's the ones before that that kind of suck a bit.

Lennon, Elvis, Hendrix etc (dog latin), Tuesday, 14 March 2017 16:51 (seven years ago) link

LC is their biggest-selling studio album iirc. My AOR station was all in on "And She Was" and "Road to Nowhere."

the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 14 March 2017 16:51 (seven years ago) link

for a while it looked like "Road To Nowhere" was gonna eclipse "Naive Melody" as their best-known iconic tune, but I think that moment has passed

sleeve, Tuesday, 14 March 2017 16:52 (seven years ago) link

Coming of age in the 90s, I never heard anything about Talking Heads at all. It's like they'd been wiped from the collective memory. It wasn't until X-Press 2 and the whole DFA thing that I guess they came back into favour. Naked is a decent album. It's the ones before that that kind of suck a bit.

^^^ my experience too. When I dug into the catalog after nearly wearing out Sand in the Vaseline in late '92/early'93, they were verboten.

the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 14 March 2017 16:53 (seven years ago) link

I made a Spotify playlist of all of the non-album material I could find, minus live versions and demos of songs that otherwise appear in album versions. Am I missing anything crucial?

some sad trombone Twilight Zone shit (cryptosicko), Tuesday, 14 March 2017 16:57 (seven years ago) link

yes!! this should be fun

also raising my hand for sand in the Vaseline being my first TH record, featured selection of the month/week whatever at columbia house

sciatica, Tuesday, 14 March 2017 16:59 (seven years ago) link

Ha, I got that one through Columbia House too.

pplains, Tuesday, 14 March 2017 17:00 (seven years ago) link

My parents were in college in the late 70s and the Talking Heads were THE BAND of their college experience.

For some reason, I feel like the Heads are underdiscussed/underappreciated by people of my generation, despite the massive respect for David Byrne as a public intellectual.

neva missa lost, wednesday nights on abc (voodoo chili), Tuesday, 14 March 2017 17:00 (seven years ago) link

My experience as a trying-to-be-cool high school student in 1987-88 was not exactly that Talking Heads reputation crashed -- Naked was indeed seen as a letdown, but non-stop listening to Stop Making Sense was absolutely de rigueur (along with Document obv.) Considered VERY cool to be all "this ain't no disco" as general dismissal of popular culture despite none of us really being old enough to remember disco

Guayaquil (eephus!), Tuesday, 14 March 2017 17:01 (seven years ago) link

And btw for the mid-40s people SMS definitely plays the Sand in the Vaseline role of "this is how we encountered and largely how we stayed engaged with this band," I don't think I heard the 77 version of "Psycho Killer" until I got to college

Guayaquil (eephus!), Tuesday, 14 March 2017 17:01 (seven years ago) link

what is Sand In The Vaseline??

Lennon, Elvis, Hendrix etc (dog latin), Tuesday, 14 March 2017 17:02 (seven years ago) link

a two-disc comp with excellent heterodox selections and liner notes

the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 14 March 2017 17:03 (seven years ago) link

and more generally, it's a dangerous sex move

Karl Malone, Tuesday, 14 March 2017 17:03 (seven years ago) link

Considered VERY cool to be all "this ain't no disco" as general dismissal of popular culture despite none of us really being old enough to remember disco

and despite the Heads recording many dance tunes!

the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 14 March 2017 17:03 (seven years ago) link

"The Big Country" could've been commissioned by the Democratic National Committee last summer.

the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 14 March 2017 17:19 (seven years ago) link

True Stories was considered a huge letdown among nearly everyone I knew

― sleeve, Tuesday, March 14, 2017 9:50 AM (fifteen minutes ago)

Naked was indeed seen as a letdown

― Guayaquil (eephus!), Tuesday, March 14, 2017 10:01 AM (five minutes ago)

These two did quite a bit to deflate their rep, but breaking up at low ebb buried them - for a while, anyway

Not raving but drooling (contenderizer), Tuesday, 14 March 2017 17:20 (seven years ago) link

I'm 45 and came to TH via Stop Making Sense. Backtracked to Speaking in Tongues and then leapt all the way back to the debut; never heard the intermediate albums until years later. Didn't like Little Creatures, but liked True Stories (the album) - in fact, "Puzzlin' Evidence" will almost certainly make my ballot.

Don Van Gorp, midwest regional VP, marketing (誤訳侮辱), Tuesday, 14 March 2017 17:21 (seven years ago) link

I'm too young for Stop Making Sense but its spending two years on the Billboard chart suggests that it became a favorite of mid '80s college students.

the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 14 March 2017 17:22 (seven years ago) link

yeah, it's their bon jovi or w/e

Not raving but drooling (contenderizer), Tuesday, 14 March 2017 17:25 (seven years ago) link

Always interesting to see when/at what age people got on board with certain artists. (Spin Alternative thread is great for this too.) I'm lolold, so I first heard the Heads on this promo sampler (with Dead Boys, Saints and Richard Hell.) Drove my Pure Prairie League-loving roommate up the wall.

http://assets.rootsvinylguide.com/pictures/1977-sire-2-x-7-comp-new-wave-rock-n-roll-get-behind-it-before-it-gets-past-you_9501388

You're going to see a lot of love. Okay? Thank you. (Dan Peterson), Tuesday, 14 March 2017 17:27 (seven years ago) link

I used to have that!

braggin/

I saw the SMS tour in high school, my younger stepsister left "after they played the hit" ("Burning Down The House") and we teased her about it for years

/braggin

sleeve, Tuesday, 14 March 2017 17:29 (seven years ago) link

From the second album through SMS, Talking Heads was the consensus soundtrack for my high school and college crowd. I remember people starting to get off the bus when Little Creatures videos were in constant rotation on MTV (the "Burning Down the House" video had started that process). By that point maybe they seemed a little too popular to be cool. SMS was such a powerful summation of the earlier material that it was really hard to match.

Brad C., Tuesday, 14 March 2017 17:34 (seven years ago) link

I made a Spotify playlist of all of the non-album material I could find, minus live versions and demos of songs that otherwise appear in album versions. Am I missing anything crucial?

"A Clean Break" from The Name of This Band should probably be on there, since there is no studio version
"In Asking Land" from the Once in a Lifetime box set

Both are on Spotify

Hideous Lump, Tuesday, 14 March 2017 17:43 (seven years ago) link

By that point maybe they seemed a little too popular to be cool.

little creatures also a very comfortable album. cheery vibe, familiar song-forms, pastoral imagery, songs about having babies, and quite a bit of mainstream radio play. heads felt safely middle-aged at that point (which they were, or getting there). no longer the alarmingly thin weirdo twitching in the corner, smoking like a chimney.

Not raving but drooling (contenderizer), Tuesday, 14 March 2017 17:46 (seven years ago) link

as someone who was following them at the time, True Stories was considered a huge letdown among nearly everyone I knew

― sleeve, Tuesday, March 14, 2017 12:50 PM (forty-seven minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

people were mostly still on board for Little Creatures

― sleeve, Tuesday, March 14, 2017 12:50 PM (forty-seven minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Little Creatures was hotly/highly anticipated -- their first studio album after Speaking In Tongues! Their first record after the triumph of Stop Making Sense! I remember walking into a mall record store in Omaha on release day and hearing this great song playing in the store and thinking, "wow, wouldn't it be something if that was the new Talking Heads record?" And it was/ "And She Was." Most of it holds up for me.

True Stories was one of those records that I listened to a bunch of times trying to figure out why I didn't like it. I gave up and started listening to XTC instead.

Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Tuesday, 14 March 2017 17:47 (seven years ago) link

I don't mind "Wild Wild Life," which sounds like the band writing a hit to order.

the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 14 March 2017 17:47 (seven years ago) link

I've long wanted "Creatures of Love" to surpass "This Must Be the Place" as their Beloved Love Song.

the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 14 March 2017 17:48 (seven years ago) link

Love For Sale is also a good song, but the rest of True Stories is pretty weak. Naked was a nice rebound, even though it seems people hate it here.

kornrulez6969, Tuesday, 14 March 2017 17:50 (seven years ago) link

lot of great song ideas on true stories, but they're all pretty lifeless in execution (weird, as liveliness was clearly the goal)

Not raving but drooling (contenderizer), Tuesday, 14 March 2017 17:51 (seven years ago) link

to me Little Creatures and True Stories sound so radically different to the rest of their catalogue, I can barely reconcile them as the same band

Lennon, Elvis, Hendrix etc (dog latin), Tuesday, 14 March 2017 17:59 (seven years ago) link

the key is the engineer: E.T. Thorngren, who also worked with Robert Palmer and Peter Wolf.

the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 14 March 2017 18:00 (seven years ago) link

http://i.imgur.com/qiYFumP.jpg

pplains, Tuesday, 14 March 2017 18:00 (seven years ago) link

GET YOUR FINGERS OFF THAT VINYL

sleeve, Tuesday, 14 March 2017 18:01 (seven years ago) link

"A Clean Break" from The Name of This Band should probably be on there, since there is no studio version
"In Asking Land" from the Once in a Lifetime box set

Added, thanks!

some sad trombone Twilight Zone shit (cryptosicko), Tuesday, 14 March 2017 18:16 (seven years ago) link

this will ruin my cred but i didn't know "Love → Building on Fire" wasn't on original release of 77, it's inseparable from that album for me

Guayaquil (eephus!), Tuesday, 14 March 2017 18:52 (seven years ago) link

Road to Nowhere was the first Talking Heads song I ever heard. It was on a compilation of cycling/road-related tracks I got after Bjarne Riis won Tour de France in 96. Bicycle Race, King of the Road, River Deep Mountain High. Life before spotify was good times.

Anyways, Road to Nowhere is probably somewhere in top five for nostalgic reasons for me.

Frederik B, Tuesday, 14 March 2017 18:54 (seven years ago) link

had the Sire Two on One cassette of 77 and MSABF from like 83? Fliptop box style, no plastic.

wishy washy hippy variety hour (Hunt3r), Tuesday, 14 March 2017 18:57 (seven years ago) link

One of my favourite New York memories is picking up Little Creatures from a random crate of free records on the sidewalk near Times Square.

dinnerboat, Tuesday, 14 March 2017 19:39 (seven years ago) link

And I just finished my annual chronological Talking Heads discography re-listen the other week, perfect.

I'll stick up for the much maligned True Stories. If you take it for what it is (conventional songwriting with kinda crappy 80s production) there's actually some really good songs on there, side 2 especially. The beautiful 'Dream Operator' will be ranking high on my ballot. I'd personally rank it above the more celebrated Little Creatures which to me is a bunch of mediocre songs sandwiched between two great ones.

bornbored, Tuesday, 14 March 2017 19:42 (seven years ago) link

television man is pretty good. road to nowhere is kinda sweet but there's too much oompah-pah on those albums for me to really love them

Lennon, Elvis, Hendrix etc (dog latin), Tuesday, 14 March 2017 19:59 (seven years ago) link


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