The Flaming Lips...

i'm a very casual fan but in any case, the balloon thing is so very tedious

Christ, Oczy Mlody surely is the weakest, most pointless "proper" studio album they've released for decades...

Yeah.

Like, you'd have to go back quite far in their discography, probably before Hit to Death... to find a weaker LP...

as long as you're not including priest driven ambulance in that assessment ;-)

Hate that i've been sand-bagging on this one hoping for goodness - SB and 5.1 Yoshimi will have to do

Yeah it's pretty disappointing.

I fuckin' loved The Terror. Soundtracked my own life full of disaster at the time.

I'll not hear anyone say a bad word about At War With the Mystics knowing that Oczy Mlody exists.

I'll not hear anyone say a bad word about At War With the Mystics knowing that Oczy Mlody exists.

Both LPs represent the band reaching the end of a particular thread of creative inspiration (Zaireeka to Mystics and Embryonic to Oczy Mlody) so if my comparison holds up the Lips will soon be yanking the steering wheel towards somewhere else. :)

I'd be very happy if they started knuckling down and writing some songs again ... I like both Embryonic and The Terror , but I also think that At War With the Mystics was unfairly panned. I can't say I'm embarrassed by anything on it, really.

The weak songs on At War With Mystics are The Wizard Turns On which sounds like a rubbish Air song and Haven't Got A Clue which sounds like a mess. Free Radicals isn't that great either. It always reminded me of Suede Head Music era B-side. The rest of the album is really good and miles ahead of anything on the new album. Vein Of Stars has gone on to become my favourite song of theirs. My Cosmic Autumn Rebellion is immense too.

Interesting that you say it was unfairly panned Turrican, I do remember the Pitchfork review but it mainly got great reviews everywhere else. Uncut gave it 5/5 and said it was another masterpiece.

Have Got a Clue is pretty lame. also weird because it seems to have been written by a non-bandmember.

The Wand and Yeah Yeah Yeah = awful.

Wrong.

Interesting that you say it was unfairly panned Turrican, I do remember the Pitchfork review but it mainly got great reviews everywhere else. Uncut gave it 5/5 and said it was another masterpiece.

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I didn't mean "unfairly panned by music critics" ...

It's definitely a lousy record, but I agree Oczy Melody is a whole new level of bad.

oh god i forgot about YYY

Great song, a lot of fun - which I expect automatically makes it repellent to a certain kind of music fan.

I don't think it's great or fun, and I think I like great & fun songs, but whatever floats your boat. The whole package--I found it all really insipid. Album has great art, though.

'The Wizard Turns On' is great, btw.

yeah Wizard is an album highlight

they need to bring back real drums

YES! I completely agree - now that Kliph's no longer in the band, Drozd should scratch that drumming itch again.

"The Yeah Yeah Yeah Song" is pretty much the worst thing they've ever written. Agree that "The Wand", "Free Radicals", "Haven't Got a Clue" are very underwhelming too.

From the same sessions, "Mr. Ambulance Driver" is pretty underrated I think. I mean, it's an ode to EDDIE RABBIT.

It kind of feels like the real long lasting tune from the sessions has become "Pompeii am Götterdämmerung", at least measured by how much they play the track live.

None of those songs are bad, IMO. Certainly not as bad as anything on Oczy Mlody. I listened to both Mystics and The Soft Bulletin yesterday, and to be honest I preferred Mystics. The only thing I would change about it is the mastering, which is horrible in places.

Mystics mastering is terrible for sure. Compression kills that record

oczy is sounding good right now, maybe this record was a grower

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s9lnCTOcgTQ

great track

it's my favorite since yoshimi. the companion RSD live thing is pretty good too

https://thefutureheart.com/2017/03/17/record-store-day-live-album-oczy-mlody-onboard-international-space-station-concert-peace-flaming-lips/

Awesome Reggie, will check out

Like how they're going for an inverse of yoshimi or soft bulletin on this

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I like both Embryonic and The Terror, but this years effort was hopelessly shite.

you're right, turrican. i see the light. the new one is terrible, especially compared to those you mention

Dunno Turrican, don't think it's abject shite tbh

turrican say it ain't so but maybe you're a gholdfish trollah? for real this is a pretty decent album, haters beware. from their "the castle" to KG&tLW's "crumbling castle" this has been a dope year for fucked up music

i really like "Galaxy I Sink" too, maybe my favorite on the record.

i am way more into this album than when it came out (would rate it over Mystics) but still feel like it's undercooked. like it should be a sprawling double album but we only got half the tracks. the minimalism and noise elements tend to be boring here where they were more menacing and focused on "The Terror".

also i think they are reaching the limit of their production style, the bottom entirely falling out during the overloaded bass solo of "Nigdy Nie". it tries to be awesome and overwhelming solo but just ends up sounding like a bad recording.

I genuinely believe that it's their weakest album for a very long time and would certainly not rate it over Mystics.

why is it so weak? i don't hear it

love that the melody on the first track re-appears as a motif later on

great when artists do this, st. vincent pulled the same trick on her latest

turrican, how can you not love the strings on galaxy i sink, that's dope

Newest record is dope. Great sound design

Psychedelic like their earlier stuff but in a more sedate way. How is incredible

The release of the "early years" box set is a good reminder that this band sucked from the beginning. They were the Replacements (who also sucked) trying to be the Butthole Surfers.

right.

from priest onwards up until the last one they were pretty dope. their early early stuff does suck tho

nah, sure they were total amateurs but there is plenty of good stuff. "Everything's Exploding" rules. "Chrome Plated Suicide" rules. i love "Godzilla Flick" off that first record

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YUCzn_eMFF4&feature=youtu.be

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YUCzn_eMFF4&

Oddly tempted to check out the new one, which is supposedly a Return to Form™.

They never put out an album that disappointed me. Apart from the Miley Cyrus collaboration. There has definitely been a lot of wheel spinning and a loosening up that is sometimes fun and sometimes frustrating, but there is definitely a sense of aimlessness. Wayne started smoking pot and I think he went through his college party phase late. Hoping that being a dad is going to bring some kind of focus back. Oczy Mlody wasn't bad but it was more like a mood piece. I liked King's Mouth a lot more than I expected, but it's such a concept thing that I never want to hear a particular song.

I take back what I said. At War With The Mysics was disappointing. A few good songs but gtfo with "Yeah Yeah Yeah" and all that shit. The Terror was the last one that I loved.

I like Wayne's personal stories so I'm hopeful for the new one. I would like songs about drugs and not another damn vague thing about The Sun or cosmic claptrap.

I'm hearing good things too, but please don't make me listen to this.