Wow, I hadn't seen that Turning Violent video before. Such a great song and I think The Terror is going to have a very long shelf life. I saw the band last week and after a very slow start they redeemed themselves with an entertaining (and very loud) second half of the show. Still too much reliance on bells and whistles though. At the very least, Wayne Coyne knows his audience.
― kwhitehead, Monday, 13 March 2017 18:38 (seven years ago) link
i'm a very casual fan but in any case, the balloon thing is so very tedious
― global tetrahedron, Monday, 13 March 2017 18:48 (seven years ago) link
Christ, Oczy Mlody surely is the weakest, most pointless "proper" studio album they've released for decades...
― The Anti-Climax Blues Band (Turrican), Thursday, 13 July 2017 19:15 (six years ago) link
Yeah.
― Paisley Window Pane (Ross), Thursday, 13 July 2017 19:19 (six years ago) link
Like, you'd have to go back quite far in their discography, probably before Hit to Death... to find a weaker LP...
― The Anti-Climax Blues Band (Turrican), Thursday, 13 July 2017 19:23 (six years ago) link
as long as you're not including priest driven ambulance in that assessment ;-)
― Paisley Window Pane (Ross), Thursday, 13 July 2017 19:32 (six years ago) link
Hate that i've been sand-bagging on this one hoping for goodness - SB and 5.1 Yoshimi will have to do
― bodacious ignoramus, Friday, 14 July 2017 05:03 (six years ago) link
Yeah it's pretty disappointing.
I fuckin' loved The Terror. Soundtracked my own life full of disaster at the time.
― yesca, Friday, 14 July 2017 07:00 (six years ago) link
I'll not hear anyone say a bad word about At War With the Mystics knowing that Oczy Mlody exists.
― The Anti-Climax Blues Band (Turrican), Friday, 14 July 2017 12:09 (six years ago) link
Both LPs represent the band reaching the end of a particular thread of creative inspiration (Zaireeka to Mystics and Embryonic to Oczy Mlody) so if my comparison holds up the Lips will soon be yanking the steering wheel towards somewhere else. :)
― yesca, Friday, 14 July 2017 12:47 (six years ago) link
I'd be very happy if they started knuckling down and writing some songs again ... I like both Embryonic and The Terror , but I also think that At War With the Mystics was unfairly panned. I can't say I'm embarrassed by anything on it, really.
― The Anti-Climax Blues Band (Turrican), Friday, 14 July 2017 12:54 (six years ago) link
The weak songs on At War With Mystics are The Wizard Turns On which sounds like a rubbish Air song and Haven't Got A Clue which sounds like a mess. Free Radicals isn't that great either. It always reminded me of Suede Head Music era B-side. The rest of the album is really good and miles ahead of anything on the new album. Vein Of Stars has gone on to become my favourite song of theirs. My Cosmic Autumn Rebellion is immense too.
Interesting that you say it was unfairly panned Turrican, I do remember the Pitchfork review but it mainly got great reviews everywhere else. Uncut gave it 5/5 and said it was another masterpiece.
― kitchen person, Friday, 14 July 2017 14:03 (six years ago) link
Have Got a Clue is pretty lame. also weird because it seems to have been written by a non-bandmember.
― AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Friday, 14 July 2017 14:06 (six years ago) link
The Wand and Yeah Yeah Yeah = awful.
― afriendlypioneer, Friday, 14 July 2017 14:09 (six years ago) link
Wrong.
― The Anti-Climax Blues Band (Turrican), Friday, 14 July 2017 14:13 (six years ago) link
Interesting that you say it was unfairly panned Turrican, I do remember the Pitchfork review but it mainly got great reviews everywhere else. Uncut gave it 5/5 and said it was another masterpiece.― kitchen person, Friday, July 14, 2017 2:03 PM (ten minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― kitchen person, Friday, July 14, 2017 2:03 PM (ten minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
I didn't mean "unfairly panned by music critics" ...
― The Anti-Climax Blues Band (Turrican), Friday, 14 July 2017 14:15 (six years ago) link
It's definitely a lousy record, but I agree Oczy Melody is a whole new level of bad.
― afriendlypioneer, Friday, 14 July 2017 14:17 (six years ago) link
oh god i forgot about YYY
― AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Friday, 14 July 2017 14:18 (six years ago) link
Great song, a lot of fun - which I expect automatically makes it repellent to a certain kind of music fan.
― The Anti-Climax Blues Band (Turrican), Friday, 14 July 2017 14:27 (six years ago) link
I don't think it's great or fun, and I think I like great & fun songs, but whatever floats your boat. The whole package--I found it all really insipid. Album has great art, though.
― afriendlypioneer, Friday, 14 July 2017 14:56 (six years ago) link
'The Wizard Turns On' is great, btw.
― The Anti-Climax Blues Band (Turrican), Friday, 14 July 2017 15:38 (six years ago) link
yeah Wizard is an album highlight
they need to bring back real drums
― AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Friday, 14 July 2017 18:06 (six years ago) link
YES! I completely agree - now that Kliph's no longer in the band, Drozd should scratch that drumming itch again.
― The Anti-Climax Blues Band (Turrican), Friday, 14 July 2017 18:10 (six years ago) link
"The Yeah Yeah Yeah Song" is pretty much the worst thing they've ever written. Agree that "The Wand", "Free Radicals", "Haven't Got a Clue" are very underwhelming too.
From the same sessions, "Mr. Ambulance Driver" is pretty underrated I think. I mean, it's an ode to EDDIE RABBIT.
It kind of feels like the real long lasting tune from the sessions has become "Pompeii am Götterdämmerung", at least measured by how much they play the track live.
― yesca, Saturday, 15 July 2017 07:14 (six years ago) link
None of those songs are bad, IMO. Certainly not as bad as anything on Oczy Mlody. I listened to both Mystics and The Soft Bulletin yesterday, and to be honest I preferred Mystics. The only thing I would change about it is the mastering, which is horrible in places.
― The Anti-Climax Blues Band (Turrican), Saturday, 15 July 2017 11:44 (six years ago) link
Mystics mastering is terrible for sure. Compression kills that record
― Paisley Window Pane (Ross), Sunday, 16 July 2017 18:56 (six years ago) link
oczy is sounding good right now, maybe this record was a grower
― In a slipshod style (Ross), Saturday, 16 December 2017 14:17 (six years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s9lnCTOcgTQ
great track
― In a slipshod style (Ross), Saturday, 16 December 2017 14:24 (six years ago) link
it's my favorite since yoshimi. the companion RSD live thing is pretty good too
https://thefutureheart.com/2017/03/17/record-store-day-live-album-oczy-mlody-onboard-international-space-station-concert-peace-flaming-lips/
― reggie (qualmsley), Saturday, 16 December 2017 15:08 (six years ago) link
Awesome Reggie, will check out
Like how they're going for an inverse of yoshimi or soft bulletin on this
― In a slipshod style (Ross), Saturday, 16 December 2017 19:31 (six years ago) link
Serious Lols from AdamPosts itt
― In a slipshod style (Ross), Saturday, 16 December 2017 19:42 (six years ago) link
I like both Embryonic and The Terror, but this years effort was hopelessly shite.
― Gholdfish Killah (Turrican), Saturday, 16 December 2017 20:30 (six years ago) link
you're right, turrican. i see the light. the new one is terrible, especially compared to those you mention
― reggie (qualmsley), Saturday, 16 December 2017 20:40 (six years ago) link
Dunno Turrican, don't think it's abject shite tbh
― In a slipshod style (Ross), Saturday, 16 December 2017 21:13 (six years ago) link
turrican say it ain't so but maybe you're a gholdfish trollah? for real this is a pretty decent album, haters beware. from their "the castle" to KG&tLW's "crumbling castle" this has been a dope year for fucked up music
― reggie (qualmsley), Saturday, 16 December 2017 21:37 (six years ago) link
i really like "Galaxy I Sink" too, maybe my favorite on the record.
i am way more into this album than when it came out (would rate it over Mystics) but still feel like it's undercooked. like it should be a sprawling double album but we only got half the tracks. the minimalism and noise elements tend to be boring here where they were more menacing and focused on "The Terror".
also i think they are reaching the limit of their production style, the bottom entirely falling out during the overloaded bass solo of "Nigdy Nie". it tries to be awesome and overwhelming solo but just ends up sounding like a bad recording.
― AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Saturday, 16 December 2017 21:45 (six years ago) link
I genuinely believe that it's their weakest album for a very long time and would certainly not rate it over Mystics.
― Gholdfish Killah (Turrican), Saturday, 16 December 2017 21:55 (six years ago) link
why is it so weak? i don't hear it
― reggie (qualmsley), Saturday, 16 December 2017 23:09 (six years ago) link
love that the melody on the first track re-appears as a motif later on
great when artists do this, st. vincent pulled the same trick on her latest
― In a slipshod style (Ross), Saturday, 16 December 2017 23:11 (six years ago) link
turrican, how can you not love the strings on galaxy i sink, that's dope
― In a slipshod style (Ross), Saturday, 16 December 2017 23:13 (six years ago) link
Newest record is dope. Great sound design
― kolakube (Ross), Sunday, 21 January 2018 13:11 (six years ago) link
Psychedelic like their earlier stuff but in a more sedate way. How is incredible
― kolakube (Ross), Sunday, 21 January 2018 13:15 (six years ago) link
The release of the "early years" box set is a good reminder that this band sucked from the beginning. They were the Replacements (who also sucked) trying to be the Butthole Surfers.
― grawlix (unperson), Thursday, 28 June 2018 18:47 (five years ago) link
right.
― stoker (Ross), Thursday, 28 June 2018 21:40 (five years ago) link
from priest onwards up until the last one they were pretty dope. their early early stuff does suck tho
nah, sure they were total amateurs but there is plenty of good stuff. "Everything's Exploding" rules. "Chrome Plated Suicide" rules. i love "Godzilla Flick" off that first record
― Hazy Maze Cave (Adam Bruneau), Thursday, 28 June 2018 21:55 (five years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YUCzn_eMFF4&feature=youtu.be
― Vanishing Point (Chinaski), Friday, 12 June 2020 23:23 (three years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YUCzn_eMFF4&
― Vanishing Point (Chinaski), Friday, 12 June 2020 23:24 (three years ago) link
Oddly tempted to check out the new one, which is supposedly a Return to Form™.
― pomenitul, Friday, 11 September 2020 15:08 (three years ago) link
They never put out an album that disappointed me. Apart from the Miley Cyrus collaboration. There has definitely been a lot of wheel spinning and a loosening up that is sometimes fun and sometimes frustrating, but there is definitely a sense of aimlessness. Wayne started smoking pot and I think he went through his college party phase late. Hoping that being a dad is going to bring some kind of focus back. Oczy Mlody wasn't bad but it was more like a mood piece. I liked King's Mouth a lot more than I expected, but it's such a concept thing that I never want to hear a particular song.
I take back what I said. At War With The Mysics was disappointing. A few good songs but gtfo with "Yeah Yeah Yeah" and all that shit. The Terror was the last one that I loved.
I like Wayne's personal stories so I'm hopeful for the new one. I would like songs about drugs and not another damn vague thing about The Sun or cosmic claptrap.
― Cow_Art, Friday, 11 September 2020 16:50 (three years ago) link