SPIN Alternative Record Guide (1995) Top 100 Alternative Albums (1-50)

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Don't like the idea of voting for a singles collection, but Run DMC Together Forever is flawless

Evan R, Monday, 13 March 2017 16:37 (nine months ago) Permalink

Don't like the idea of voting for a singles collection, but Run DMC Together Forever is flawless

― Evan R, Monday, March 13, 2017 12:37 PM (fourteen minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Run-DMC is one of my favorite bands of all time, but I'll definitely count "Here's a solo from my homeboy Stanley Brown" as a flaw

Whiney G. Weingarten, Monday, 13 March 2017 16:54 (nine months ago) Permalink

lol fair enough

Evan R, Monday, 13 March 2017 16:56 (nine months ago) Permalink

haha, i bought that guide at the time and registered an ilm account a couple of years later...

too many great albums. "loveless", "crazy rhythms", "another green world" and "velvet underground" are the ones i could niot live without. deciding between them is like killing all your babies except one, absolutely impossible. therefore no vote from me.

it's the distortion, stupid! (alex in mainhattan), Monday, 13 March 2017 16:58 (nine months ago) Permalink

Tonight's the Night for me.

nomar, Monday, 13 March 2017 16:58 (nine months ago) Permalink

come the fuck on people

24 Prince Sign o the times 1987

I'm not even saying everyone needs to vote for it but for it not even to have come up yet in the conversation is ridiculous.

Rachel Luther Queen (DJP), Monday, 13 March 2017 17:00 (nine months ago) Permalink

Pretty much all good albums, but I don't really get how they are defining "alternative" here. Like Madonna's greatest hits are hardly alt.

Moodles, Monday, 13 March 2017 17:02 (nine months ago) Permalink

I know it's Controversy-al, but SoTT is my least favorite (although still very good) of a solid run of Prince albums that otherwise remain entrenched in my all-time top 100.

Milkwalker's World (Old Lunch), Monday, 13 March 2017 17:04 (nine months ago) Permalink

Pretty much all good albums, but I don't really get how they are defining "alternative" here. Like Madonna's greatest hits are hardly alt.

― Moodles, Monday, March 13, 2017 1:02 PM (three minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I can't hold your hand through this, used copy is $10

https://www.amazon.com/Spin-Alternative-Record-Guide-Weisbard/dp/0679755748

Whiney G. Weingarten, Monday, 13 March 2017 17:06 (nine months ago) Permalink

Pretty much all good albums, but I don't really get how they are defining "alternative" here. Like Madonna's greatest hits are hardly alt.

― Moodles, Monday, March 13, 2017 1:02 PM

Weisbard's introduction addresses this. One of his points is how subcultural phenomena like Madonna or gradations of queerness (Culture Club, also pop) change mainstream tastes.

the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 13 March 2017 17:07 (nine months ago) Permalink

Besides which, Hootie and the Blowfish was played on alternative stations in the '90s so it's not as if we'd collectively agreed on any hard and fast criteria.

Milkwalker's World (Old Lunch), Monday, 13 March 2017 17:12 (nine months ago) Permalink

the first Pretenders album is still woefully under appreciated - flawless collection of songs. James Honeyman-Scott was an extraordinary guitarist. such a fucking shame what happened to them

flappy bird, Monday, 13 March 2017 17:22 (nine months ago) Permalink

sub-conversation, what's the WORST album on this list. Probably Pavement or Hole

Whiney G. Weingarten, Monday, 13 March 2017 17:25 (nine months ago) Permalink

I just voted for Hole.

how's life, Monday, 13 March 2017 17:26 (nine months ago) Permalink

I'mma get pummelled but Double Nickels is my least favorite on the list. I've never been able to get into it.

Milkwalker's World (Old Lunch), Monday, 13 March 2017 17:28 (nine months ago) Permalink

what's the WORST album on this list

it's Hole by a considerable margin

Οὖτις, Monday, 13 March 2017 17:29 (nine months ago) Permalink

oooooooooOOHHHHHHHHHH !!!!!!

actually it's Modern Lovers

flappy bird, Monday, 13 March 2017 17:31 (nine months ago) Permalink

hi don, yeah i guess i meant current ilxors but i was just stirring the water a bit really to see who else might be here

lol at shakey and his transsparent hared of courtney love

(siren seems an odd roxy music lp to land on)

mark s, Monday, 13 March 2017 17:31 (nine months ago) Permalink

it's the remains of America's hesitation to canonize Roxy; for a while it was the only album American critics rated, which is why Rob's calling it their best surprises me, especially after his intro paragraph

the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 13 March 2017 17:34 (nine months ago) Permalink

Lots of amazing stuff on this list--leaning towards voting for Let It Be, but Prince, The Clash, the Ramones debut, Television and De La are nipping at its heels

neva missa lost, wednesday nights on abc (voodoo chili), Monday, 13 March 2017 17:57 (nine months ago) Permalink

Flip Your Wig or even New Day Rising should be the Hüskers LP here

flappy bird, Monday, 13 March 2017 17:59 (nine months ago) Permalink

I'mma get pummelled but Double Nickels is my least favorite on the list. I've never been able to get into it.

― Milkwalker's World (Old Lunch), Monday, March 13, 2017 10:28 AM (forty-four minutes ago)

i will not pummel, but you'll have to live with my look of wounded confusion for the rest of your life

Not raving but drooling (contenderizer), Monday, 13 March 2017 18:17 (nine months ago) Permalink

I'll have to give this one some thought.

Put me down as another who prefers Reckoning to Murmur.

Coolio Iglesias (Turrican), Monday, 13 March 2017 18:21 (nine months ago) Permalink

Let's talk about the same albums over and over and over again!

an uptempo Pop/Hip Hop mentality (imago), Monday, 13 March 2017 18:23 (nine months ago) Permalink

Best: Murmur
Worst: Slanted and Enchanted

I've only heard about half the albums on this list, though.

Mr. Snrub, Monday, 13 March 2017 18:24 (nine months ago) Permalink

Yeah can't really choose one album over others by a lot of those bands, another reason for caring more about the descriptions of discographies. Without knowing the deadline for this 1995-published collection, I would like to plug one late-'94 release, Nirvana's MTV Unplugged in New York, which cogently combined originals and cover versions of songs by The Vaselines, David Bowie, Lead Belly, and Meat Puppets, whose Cris and Curt Kirkwood joined Nirvana onstage and made it work, by cracky. In retrospect seems like it might have served some listeners as gateway (back and forward) to thee more effective kind of "acid folk" etc. inclusiveness.
As Wikipedia also points out, it has become the group's most successful posthumous release, having been certified 5x platinum in the United States by 1997. (source: RIAA.com). It's several of my friends' most-played Nirvana by far, and in some cases only-played, incl. those who never did care about any of their other albums.

dow, Monday, 13 March 2017 18:28 (nine months ago) Permalink

LJ, you have a point. You should work your way through all of the ILX threads that aren't to your taste and make your voice heard. You're changing minds and lives with your good works.

Milkwalker's World (Old Lunch), Monday, 13 March 2017 18:29 (nine months ago) Permalink

Let's talk about the same albums over and over and over again!

― an uptempo Pop/Hip Hop mentality (imago), Monday, March 13, 2017 11:23 AM (three minutes ago)

I guess you missed the thread title. These are the 50 top alternative albums ever.

Not raving but drooling (contenderizer), Monday, 13 March 2017 18:31 (nine months ago) Permalink

xxp Unplugged is my favorite & most listened to besides In Utero

flappy bird, Monday, 13 March 2017 18:35 (nine months ago) Permalink

Voted Public Image but I probably like the two Velvets records and the Modern Lovers as much. Just picked it as the bassline to Poptones appeared in my head when I read it.

Dan.S., Monday, 13 March 2017 18:36 (nine months ago) Permalink

I had no idea the Spin Record Guide existed at the time but bought a secondhand copy after seeing it mentioned a lot on here... This whole list is an interesting snapshot, definitely a few things that have fallen out of favour but it actually seems more in line with today's indie/alternative canon than I would've guessed.

Voted Murmur just over Radio City.

Gavin, Leeds, Monday, 13 March 2017 18:40 (nine months ago) Permalink

voted B-52's cuz are we not men? isn't an option

Not raving but drooling (contenderizer), Monday, 13 March 2017 18:44 (nine months ago) Permalink

the group's most successful posthumous release

not much competition tbf

Οὖτις, Monday, 13 March 2017 18:44 (nine months ago) Permalink

lol

flappy bird, Monday, 13 March 2017 18:46 (nine months ago) Permalink

Easier would be a list of the ones from this I don't still listen to on the semi-regular... Went with Ramones because I have likely played that more often than anything else on the list.

Loud guitars shit all over "Bette Davis Eyes" (NYCNative), Monday, 13 March 2017 19:08 (nine months ago) Permalink

I couldn't not vote for Daydream Nation but Another Green World put up a good fight.

My Body's Made of Crushed Little Evening Stars (Sund4r), Monday, 13 March 2017 19:13 (nine months ago) Permalink

seems a little unfair to have so many comps on here

idk what the best is but Licensed to Ill is probably the worst, in my humble opinion

frogbs, Monday, 13 March 2017 19:15 (nine months ago) Permalink

Slanted and Enchanted 4EVA.

The most unlikely thing on this list could be More Songs About Buildings and Food. It's a great record obviously but Remain In Light seems to be the consensus pick. It was in 1995 too.

kornrulez6969, Monday, 13 March 2017 19:16 (nine months ago) Permalink

never read this, I did have rolling stone's 90s "alternative rock" book which had Lou Barlow' grilled cheese sandwich recipe and a bunch of other random "essays" and lists

a but (brimstead), Monday, 13 March 2017 19:21 (nine months ago) Permalink

Voted Nation of Millions without a moment's hesitation, even as roughly 25+ other life-changing records lurked beneath.

Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Monday, 13 March 2017 19:23 (nine months ago) Permalink

How does Barlow make grilled cheese?

how's life, Monday, 13 March 2017 19:25 (nine months ago) Permalink

voted Flying Burrito Brothers because huh?

duped and used by my worst Miss U (President Keyes), Monday, 13 March 2017 19:35 (nine months ago) Permalink

Since micci0 doesn't post here any more, I'll have to be the guy who points out that the Madonna GH was only given an 8 and knocked in the write-up for not having truncated, non-12-inch versions to fit it all on a single disc.
― Whiney G. Weingarten, Monday, March 13, 2017 11:14 AM (four hours ago)

the same guy (Sheffield) who reviewed PSB also said their comp was OK and gave it a 7 or 8.
― the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, March 13, 2017 11:24 AM (four hours ago)

I always was more intrigued by the 10s that made the list: Cut! This Nation's Saving Grace! The Queen is Dead! AR Kane's 69! Dub Housing! Soon Over Babaluma! Throwing Muses' first album! Suicide's first album! etc etc etc

(FWIW both Madinna and PSB had studio albums ranked as 10s--Like a Prayer and Introspective iirc--but I assumed Weisbard pulled editorial rank and included the lower-scored comps instead)

jorts l0chinski (Drugs A. Money), Monday, 13 March 2017 20:04 (nine months ago) Permalink

pavement/young/big star made other records i feel stronger about so voted double nickels

devvvine, Monday, 13 March 2017 20:06 (nine months ago) Permalink

Thought it might be a difficult decision, but then I saw Loveless and the choice was obvious.

Chantilly Bass, Monday, 13 March 2017 20:14 (nine months ago) Permalink

I made an google sheet of all the 9s and 10s if anyone has any questions

Whiney G. Weingarten, Monday, 13 March 2017 20:14 (nine months ago) Permalink

A necessary corrective.

to someone raised on the rolling stone guides, this whole book was a welcome, necessary and wonderful corrective. it had its own weird and unexplained exclusions, none of which i can remember off the top of my head, but that's the price of admission for anything like this. also, the personal top 10s sprinkled throughout the book were great.

that said, i can no longer endorse any list that thinks sign o' the times is only the 24th best of anything.

fact checking cuz, Monday, 13 March 2017 20:15 (nine months ago) Permalink

I think I'm the first one to say this "Parallel lines."

Bee OK, Monday, 13 March 2017 20:17 (nine months ago) Permalink

this'll have a nice spread i feel

flappy bird, Monday, 13 March 2017 20:19 (nine months ago) Permalink

the Duran Duran entry is LOL.

the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 13 March 2017 20:20 (nine months ago) Permalink

re: big chief

i dug the early singles ("chrome helmet", "get down & double check", "time dirt money", the surprisingly good "superstupid" cover), but the albums were relatively short on punk energy & hooks. and the fake blaxploitation shtick never sat right. prescient in retrospect, tho.

Not raving but drooling (contenderizer), Wednesday, 15 March 2017 21:47 (eight months ago) Permalink

four weeks pass...

Automatic thread bump. This poll is closing tomorrow.

System, Wednesday, 12 April 2017 00:01 (eight months ago) Permalink

So unfucking fair to have to (with Whiney's Glock at my head) vote for just one, but: VU & Nico---what other has such range & depth, groovy toons & scary sounds incl. some of the words etc., so limber & locked etc.? And even if there are several, can't vote for more than one, but mention 'em anyway.

dow, Wednesday, 12 April 2017 00:25 (eight months ago) Permalink

VU & Nico---what other has such range & depth, groovy toons & scary sounds incl. some of the words etc., so limber & locked etc.?

It Takes a Nation of Millions to Hold Us Back?

the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 12 April 2017 00:29 (eight months ago) Permalink

I hear young ppl aren't feeling that one

duped and used by my worst Miss U (President Keyes), Wednesday, 12 April 2017 12:49 (eight months ago) Permalink

If I could pick more than one, I'd pick that (not being burdened with youth).

dow, Wednesday, 12 April 2017 18:14 (eight months ago) Permalink

But before it, maybe one not quite so testosterone-(almost?)-only.

dow, Wednesday, 12 April 2017 18:17 (eight months ago) Permalink

nation of millions or 3ft high.

pandemic, Wednesday, 12 April 2017 18:24 (eight months ago) Permalink

Second Johnny Fever's preference of Wild Planet.
Overrated: Mekons Fear and whiskey. Does anyone actually listen to the Mekons? Zzz.

campreverb, Wednesday, 12 April 2017 18:46 (eight months ago) Permalink

I still like Fear and Whiskey, esp. as the main part of their Original Sin round-up. Also really enjoy their 2016 album Existentialism, which is rough and slick in all the right ways.

dow, Wednesday, 12 April 2017 19:28 (eight months ago) Permalink

where is Third Eye Blind's first record?

Van Horn Street, Wednesday, 12 April 2017 22:45 (eight months ago) Permalink

Automatic thread bump. This poll's results are now in.

System, Thursday, 13 April 2017 00:01 (eight months ago) Permalink

damn! What a spread!

the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 13 April 2017 00:26 (eight months ago) Permalink

lmao i think i was the winning vote for zen arcade

ToddBonzalez (BradNelson), Thursday, 13 April 2017 00:29 (eight months ago) Permalink

was Shoot Out the Lights even discussed upthread

the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 13 April 2017 00:30 (eight months ago) Permalink

I wish it had been. Shoot Out the Lights is a great album.

banjoboy, Thursday, 13 April 2017 02:12 (eight months ago) Permalink

glad to see Murmur do so well.

Van Horn Street, Thursday, 13 April 2017 02:28 (eight months ago) Permalink

Shoot Out the Lights is one of hose albums I've introduced to friends, and they've responded "Dammmmmn" but tend to forget it when naming their favorite albums.

the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 13 April 2017 02:44 (eight months ago) Permalink

*those

the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 13 April 2017 02:44 (eight months ago) Permalink


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