Bands whose most iconic record is their first one, but which is also stylistically an outlier in their catalog

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I like a lot of Patti Smith, and Horses isn't even my favourite work of hers, but it does feel like a bit of an outlier to me. The next two albums are much more straightforward rock albums to my ears.

I like Peter Green's Fleetwood Mac but it seems crazy to say that this is their most iconic work.

My Body's Made of Crushed Little Evening Stars (Sund4r), Thursday, 2 March 2017 20:01 (seven years ago) link

Comus probably counts here, despite not having the most extensive discography.

The Flautist of Flatus (Old Lunch), Thursday, 2 March 2017 20:01 (seven years ago) link

Steely Dan: I encounter "Reelin' In The Years" & "Do It Again" on the airwaves more than any of their other songs. Pretty stark stylistic divergence from the rest of their catalog, also David Palmer sings quite a bit on that one.

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Thursday, 2 March 2017 20:02 (seven years ago) link

STEELY DAN! BINGOOOOO! I GOT A BINGO

imago, Thursday, 2 March 2017 20:03 (seven years ago) link

The Cardiacs probably.

Return of the Flustered Bootle Native (Tom D.), Thursday, 2 March 2017 20:03 (seven years ago) link

:D

imago, Thursday, 2 March 2017 20:03 (seven years ago) link

basically the only artists who belong itt are ones whose debut albums have more RYM ratings and different primary genre tags than all subsequent albums. there's this little thing called SCIENCE but most of you guys probably haven't heard of it http://i.somethingawful.com/forumsystem/emoticons/emot-colbert.gif

ridiculously dope soul (unregistered), Thursday, 2 March 2017 20:05 (seven years ago) link

I feel you, imago.

ok, Spiderman of the Rings - Dan Deacon's first real album (there are a handful of EPs and two collections of college assignments and experiments that preceded it), it's the only time he was ever the full on "Mongoloid man-child" (Polish flyer description), spazzy neon freak dude image that people still associate with him. Ever since Bromst, he's made a concerted effort to emphasize his academic background and considerable abilities as a composer and arranger. the party rager dude in "The Crystal Cat" video was his schtick until he got famous and "Drinking Out of Cups" went viral. When the pernicious rumor that he was locked in a closet tripping on acid in that video was going around, I think it really annoyed him, and beginning with Bromst, he started playing with ensembles and recording much more intricate work: player piano, strings, massive productions. Yet he still plays "The Crystal Cat" at every fucking show.

flappy bird, Thursday, 2 March 2017 20:05 (seven years ago) link

LJ, you may find that it's easier to get your point across if you explicitly call us 'sheeple' and perhaps use the phrase 'wake up' at least once or twice.

The Flautist of Flatus (Old Lunch), Thursday, 2 March 2017 20:06 (seven years ago) link

lol screw u unreg

imago, Thursday, 2 March 2017 20:06 (seven years ago) link

meant with affection obv

imago, Thursday, 2 March 2017 20:07 (seven years ago) link

Nothin but luv itt, bruv.

The Flautist of Flatus (Old Lunch), Thursday, 2 March 2017 20:07 (seven years ago) link

imago bringing the spirit of ilx past alive. i miss those halcyon days when i could like get seriously mad about somebody implying that devo's second album is a massive departure from their first.

increasingly bonkers (rushomancy), Thursday, 2 March 2017 20:08 (seven years ago) link

I just don't want us sleepwalking into yet another fermentation of our silage

imago, Thursday, 2 March 2017 20:10 (seven years ago) link

MGMT!

J. Sam, Thursday, 2 March 2017 20:10 (seven years ago) link

^accurate

flappy bird, Thursday, 2 March 2017 20:16 (seven years ago) link

yeah that one seems correct

imago, Thursday, 2 March 2017 20:18 (seven years ago) link

you can sit on my side of the classroom J Sam

imago, Thursday, 2 March 2017 20:19 (seven years ago) link

Fleetwood Mac? Fuck off. Just fuck off.

― imago, Thursday, March 2, 2017 7:55 PM (twenty-six minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

How 'bout you fuck off?

Fleetwood Mac (Turrican), Thursday, 2 March 2017 20:23 (seven years ago) link

There's viola on "Lady Godiva's Operation" and "Here She Comes Now".

And "Stephanie Says" - maybe my favourite Velvets ever.

attention vampire (MatthewK), Thursday, 2 March 2017 20:24 (seven years ago) link

i'd definitely agree on Ride.

piscesx, Thursday, 2 March 2017 20:25 (seven years ago) link

xxp:

j/k, ofc :P

Coolio Iglesias (Turrican), Thursday, 2 March 2017 20:26 (seven years ago) link

You're a Rumours Isn't Obviously Their Most Iconic Album By A Zillion Miles truther too? Did they use Dragonfly in enough M&S ads to tilt your brain, send you wacko? What's happened, Turrican? Who's in there?

imago, Thursday, 2 March 2017 20:26 (seven years ago) link

xxp and i guess Lush if you count GALA as an album 'proper'.

piscesx, Thursday, 2 March 2017 20:26 (seven years ago) link

I just don't want us sleepwalking into yet another fermentation of our silage

― imago

welp, i tell you what, i may be a city boy now, but i grew up just down the way from Space Farms, and i still remember what they said to me. they said to me, "ain't nobody never caused their silage to ferment by making specious claims about the amount of viola on _white light/white heat_". well, ol' clem down at space farms, he was a good feller but he didn't always say exactly what he meant to say. but in this case, thinking back on it... i think ol' clem was wiser than i gave him credit for at the time.

increasingly bonkers (rushomancy), Thursday, 2 March 2017 20:27 (seven years ago) link

haha

imago, Thursday, 2 March 2017 20:27 (seven years ago) link

ABC?

piscesx, Thursday, 2 March 2017 20:28 (seven years ago) link

Wait, it's Albatross, not Dragonfly. Not memorable, not iconic

imago, Thursday, 2 March 2017 20:28 (seven years ago) link

i'd definitely agree on Ride.

― piscesx, Thursday, March 2, 2017 3:25 PM (forty seconds ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Can you clarify? Are they really that stylistically different?

Evan, Thursday, 2 March 2017 20:28 (seven years ago) link

Oh yeah, I really like "Stephanie Says", although it wasn't on an official album, in my semi-defence.

My Body's Made of Crushed Little Evening Stars (Sund4r), Thursday, 2 March 2017 20:28 (seven years ago) link

yeah i mean the post Nowhere albums are nothing like the debut. the debut and the EPs sound alike but they got very clean and slick after IMO.

piscesx, Thursday, 2 March 2017 20:31 (seven years ago) link

Wild Beasts.

piscesx, Thursday, 2 March 2017 20:33 (seven years ago) link

I guess production aside the formula doesn't seem all that different, and it's not like I'm a stranger to the early 90s Creation records sound. I thought this thread was more for bands that more significantly changed their whole approach.

xp

Evan, Thursday, 2 March 2017 20:35 (seven years ago) link

Lana Del Rey (Born To Die has an uptempo Pop/Hip Hop mentality that gradually got downplayed in subsequent releases)

to fly across the city and find Aerosmith's car (C. Grisso/McCain), Thursday, 2 March 2017 20:40 (seven years ago) link

team imago

Whiney G. Weingarten, Thursday, 2 March 2017 20:44 (seven years ago) link

I don't think you could describe "Pink Flag" as a straightforward punk record tbf.

OK more straightforward...

Gavin, Leeds, Thursday, 2 March 2017 20:50 (seven years ago) link

what with Futureheads, MGMT and others, I feel that mid-00's indie might be quite a fertile zone for this. Don't say Arcade Fire or other similar shit though ffs, all their albums are the same dirge

imago, Thursday, 2 March 2017 20:51 (seven years ago) link

how is the futureheads 1st album that much different than the 2nd one? (other than having better songs)

blonde redheads have more fun (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 2 March 2017 20:51 (seven years ago) link

Isn't Fleetwood Mac's first lp the s/t one with garbage cans in an alley on the cover and isn't it a pretty straight Chicago Blues lp. Then Play On has things concurrent to Albatross which was a non lp single and has other originals on.
I could never get into that first lp really, probably has some pretty stellar guitar on but too straight for me.

Stevolende, Thursday, 2 March 2017 20:56 (seven years ago) link

Beastie Boys (taking 'most iconic' to mean 'biggest selling')

Gavin, Leeds, Thursday, 2 March 2017 21:07 (seven years ago) link

Violent Femmes
Weezer

“Remember,” he says, “Noddy Holder is a gangster.” (contenderizer), Thursday, 2 March 2017 21:14 (seven years ago) link

Lana Del Rey is a good shout. I miss that Lana.

piscesx, Thursday, 2 March 2017 22:16 (seven years ago) link

Could make an argument about Van Morrison & Astral Weeks. Have to overlook the Bang Records "Blowin' Your Mind!" thing.

that's not my post, Thursday, 2 March 2017 23:28 (seven years ago) link

"want a danish?" is van morrison at his most iconic as far as _i'm_ concerned.

increasingly bonkers (rushomancy), Thursday, 2 March 2017 23:30 (seven years ago) link

Swans, maybe? People tend to think of stuff like Filth as their iconic era, although they dropped that style pretty quickly.

heaven parker (anagram), Thursday, 2 March 2017 23:47 (seven years ago) link

The Knife

Treeship, Thursday, 2 March 2017 23:53 (seven years ago) link

Even if that were true, which I'm not sure of, was Cop really a radical departure? xp

My Body's Made of Crushed Little Evening Stars (Sund4r), Thursday, 2 March 2017 23:54 (seven years ago) link

No, but both Filth and Cop are outliers in their catalogue as a whole.

heaven parker (anagram), Thursday, 2 March 2017 23:59 (seven years ago) link

Oh, I read the thread as being about iconic individual records.

My Body's Made of Crushed Little Evening Stars (Sund4r), Friday, 3 March 2017 00:13 (seven years ago) link


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