Trump's America, March 2017: Using His Inside VOICE

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I hope the Failors name their next child Epic

noice, rhymes with voice (Ye Mad Puffin), Wednesday, 1 March 2017 20:21 (seven years ago) link

Apropos of little other than trying to keep it pos and irie in the midst of our dread-ridden vigilance, here's a companion to the well-known Mencken quote Morbs shared, from Bayard Rustin on organizing the March on Washington: “If you want to organize anything, assume that everyone is absolutely stupid. And assume yourself that you’re stupid.”

The Flautist of Flatus (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 1 March 2017 20:33 (seven years ago) link

at the risk of being cruel, i wonder if Carryn Owens is a fucking idiot

constitutional crises they fly at u face (will), Wednesday, 1 March 2017 20:34 (seven years ago) link

seemed like ur basic shameless politicization of a military death but against the backdrop of trump's statements regarding the military generally ("they don't fight to win anymore") and of this operation specifically (passing blame onto the generals, coupled with the fact that he wasn't present for the operation, rumors that it was poorly planned or grounded in insufficient/flawes evidence) the whole thing is gross and manipulative and everybody seems to have eaten it the fuck up

art, Wednesday, 1 March 2017 20:44 (seven years ago) link

Absolutely. Same here from across the pond that divides is, all articles and news items about how presidential Trump was. It's crazy, it's normalization, it's wrong. https://twitter.com/i/web/status/837016074486861825

Le Bateau Ivre, Wednesday, 1 March 2017 20:49 (seven years ago) link

Professionals in the art of communication at the top of their field fell for this shoddy, ramshackle, cynical piece of performance. Duped, even. I think it checks out.

larry appleton, Wednesday, 1 March 2017 20:50 (seven years ago) link

Were they? Or was it an opportunity to prove to the Trump supporting viewers they're worried about losing that they aren't as anti-Trump and FAKE as he constantly says they are?

Evan, Wednesday, 1 March 2017 20:53 (seven years ago) link

Who knows, but to say they "fell for it" or along those lines is a little nonsensical, imo.

larry appleton, Wednesday, 1 March 2017 20:54 (seven years ago) link

Oh yes, I'm agreeing then.

Evan, Wednesday, 1 March 2017 20:57 (seven years ago) link

The mega-conglomerate media, sooner or later, sees themselves as part of the state, almost always. Pod people.

Supercreditor (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 1 March 2017 21:01 (seven years ago) link

https://i.imgur.com/Q5nvkH8.jpg

Taken from lolreddit, but here's how this stuff works

larry appleton, Wednesday, 1 March 2017 21:07 (seven years ago) link

larry, are you gonna imitate Treeship's less attractive qualities?

the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 1 March 2017 21:10 (seven years ago) link

like, we don't need reminders of the political climate's loathsomeness.

the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 1 March 2017 21:10 (seven years ago) link

oh don't you though

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 1 March 2017 21:10 (seven years ago) link

Why at this time did there have to be this stupid mission when it wasn’t even barely a week into his administration? Why? For two years prior, there were no boots on the ground in Yemen — everything was missiles and drones — because there was not a target worth one American life. Now, all of a sudden we had to make this grand display?

reggie (qualmsley), Wednesday, 1 March 2017 21:11 (seven years ago) link

have been following these threads for quite awhile and generally sympathetic to everyone's concerns here but it's dispiriting to see you guys get buffeted by the media's idiot winds. this was going to happen sooner or later; far more of all this will be normalized than we'd prefer because it's almost impossible to push back uniformly against this kind of concentration of power in the lagging years between elections. the narrative will swing back the other way, prob sooner than later, and each of these horrifying items will be taken up in turn as people organize to oppose them.

sciatica, Wednesday, 1 March 2017 21:11 (seven years ago) link

This is the reality of what's going on, my man, what are we going to do in here, juggle?

xxp

larry appleton, Wednesday, 1 March 2017 21:12 (seven years ago) link

fuck you, shut up, FP

sleeve, Wednesday, 1 March 2017 21:13 (seven years ago) link

FP for what exactly? Not liking things? This is what we're facing right now. Nobody wants to believe it, though, and I don't blame 'em. I think I'm going to take a break with this stuff for now.

larry appleton, Wednesday, 1 March 2017 21:14 (seven years ago) link

You don't say.

the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 1 March 2017 21:15 (seven years ago) link

the Cassandra routine is v tiresome

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 1 March 2017 21:16 (seven years ago) link

sciatica otm tbh

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 1 March 2017 21:17 (seven years ago) link

LA we understand your angst just dial it down a little here is all

(•̪●) (carne asada), Wednesday, 1 March 2017 21:17 (seven years ago) link

From what I'm hearing from US tv I've seen there are a lot of ,more local elections to be won over the current year. Looks like Democrats have been doing pretty well so far and at least getting a lot closer to majority in those they haven't fully swung.
So it's not all next year and is an ongoing process. So normalization of the regime is not something that is going to be conducive.

So hoping taht pressure and momentum can be kept up and things do continue to be swung.

But saw Channel 4 news saying things about how last night's speech meant that the caricature/stereotype people had for Trump so far was misplaced. Didn't hear that from the bits of the speech I've heard so far. Still sounded pretty batshit.

Stevolende, Wednesday, 1 March 2017 21:19 (seven years ago) link

the Cassandra routine is v tiresome

It's not a "Cassandra routine", it's called paying attention.

larry appleton, Wednesday, 1 March 2017 21:21 (seven years ago) link

Channel the angst into calling your congressman and going to town alls, appleton

the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 1 March 2017 21:21 (seven years ago) link

everyone on this thread is if you haven't noticed, so chill the fuck out

the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 1 March 2017 21:21 (seven years ago) link

My angst????????? I'm fine, I've made my peace with this already. I'm not the one telling people to shove it just by posting news related to this thread.

larry appleton, Wednesday, 1 March 2017 21:22 (seven years ago) link

now this is a fascinating read: the collapse of the State Department, which I've seen in my lifetime.

https://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2017/03/state-department-trump/517965/?utm_source=twb

the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 1 March 2017 21:23 (seven years ago) link

totally batshit. he used the widow of a navy seal whose death he caused with his senile mogul routine as a prop in his first speech to a joint congressional session . . . while he's being investigated for his russian ties. it doesn't get much more batshit than that

xpost

reggie (qualmsley), Wednesday, 1 March 2017 21:24 (seven years ago) link

alfred the state department will soon be just rex tillerson and jared kushner

reggie (qualmsley), Wednesday, 1 March 2017 21:24 (seven years ago) link

sitting in the dark with glasses of whiskey, muttering

the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 1 March 2017 21:28 (seven years ago) link

One will be the ambassador to all countries from A-L, the other will be ambassador to all countries beginning M-Z.

noice, rhymes with voice (Ye Mad Puffin), Wednesday, 1 March 2017 21:29 (seven years ago) link

Other American diplomats, especially those in geopolitically sensitive posts, find themselves going on old, Obama-era guidance because no new guidance has been issued

the shadow gov is real

i genuinely have no idea what it means to have a non-functioning state dept, for our country or for the world, what the consequences of that look like. it's just so incomprehensible. how does that even (not) work? how does it impact defense and other agencies?

sciatica, Wednesday, 1 March 2017 21:40 (seven years ago) link

does america really need a state dept i mean when u really get down to it, why are we providing ambassadors to these other countries (that aren't even in the US!) and worst of all, for free? seems like a bad deal tbh

art, Wednesday, 1 March 2017 21:41 (seven years ago) link

My eyes have opened.
And what once looked normal seems insane.
You can't bury your head in the sand like an ostrich.
It's not about our well-being, our two cars, our TVs and your kitchen.
It's about our kids growing up in a shithole of lies. I'm angry.
My life is fucked because of it.
If you could see it that way, you'd see your life is fucked too.

nomar, Wednesday, 1 March 2017 21:44 (seven years ago) link

now turn it into blank verse, Jimbo

the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 1 March 2017 21:47 (seven years ago) link

Well, first of all you totally CAN bury your head in the sand. It's just probably not very pleasant.

Second, ostriches don't bury their heads in sand; that's a myth.

noice, rhymes with voice (Ye Mad Puffin), Wednesday, 1 March 2017 21:58 (seven years ago) link

Third, ostrich meat is excellent!

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 1 March 2017 21:59 (seven years ago) link

ACLU otm:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C53MKMaWcAYCfEO.jpg

the more they talk about the Muslim ban before the issue it, the more they're legally shooting themselves in the foot

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 1 March 2017 22:01 (seven years ago) link

@jeffbercovici
A woman on NPR just said she loved Donald Trump's speech because it reminded her of "La La Land," which she said she hasn't seen.

mookieproof, Wednesday, 1 March 2017 22:03 (seven years ago) link

was just gonna post that aclu tweet, otm x100

I want to change my display name (dan m), Wednesday, 1 March 2017 22:06 (seven years ago) link

i still think that jeff sessions is the worst part of this cabinet

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-watch/wp/2017/02/28/jeff-sessions-dismisses-doj-reports-on-police-abuse-without-bothering-to-read-them/

(•̪●) (carne asada), Wednesday, 1 March 2017 22:19 (seven years ago) link

worst because he knows what he's doing

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 1 March 2017 22:21 (seven years ago) link

Here's that NPR story with the La La Land lady:

http://www.wnyc.org/story/president-trump-address-congress-and-nation/

Presidential Pivot? Voters Say Trump Softened in Address to Congress
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In a prime time address to a joint session of Congress Tuesday night, President Donald Trump delivered a pseudo-State of the Union.

It was a speech intended to assuage the frayed nerves of Congressional leaders, who have watched a rather turbulent first month in office play out in the Trump Administration. But with millions of Americans watching across the country, it was also a litmus test on popular opinion of the president, who has alienated many Democrats and Independents in his first days of office. Yet, according to polls, Trump has managed to retain the support of the voters who cast their ballots for him in November.

Today, three voters respond to the president: A Republican who voted for Trump, a Democrat who voted for Trump, and a Republican who didn't vote for Trump.

Shirl St. Germain is a former restaurant owner in Marco Island, Florida, Kenneth Lanci is founder of Consolidated Solutions a business in Cleveland and author of "Working for the Greater Good of All ... Really!", and Hal Scoggins is an attorney from Portland, Oregon.

International House of Hot Takes (kingfish), Wednesday, 1 March 2017 22:48 (seven years ago) link


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