Trump's America, March 2017: Using His Inside VOICE

seriously, what is our one destiny? what could that possibly mean?

we're all gonna die

I'm pretty sympathetic to Van Jones, who had legit feelings of terror on election night, and probably still does, at least saying that Donald appeared Presidential and less scary, which might at least douse a few fires amongst his incitable base and ease tensions for the near future. Tensions that have immediate ramifications for him and his community.

He did also explain that he still largely disagrees with the President. and that being able to do this "again and again and again", well, that remains to be seen. speaking competently is really not that hard, but few other speeches have the magnitude of SOTU where you can achieve maximum impact. prior to his next one, there is ample time for him to erode what he just did.

starting to get seriously afraid that this Russia story is all going to wash out by the summer :/

not to be all ageist but this trump fella is too old to be president

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not to be all mccarthyist but the oldest person ever inaugurated is too deep in russia's pocket to be president

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lol usa

not buyin' it xxp

IT'S CLASSIFIED -- where's it gonna go, most likely? Into the memory hole. xp

I'm more scared of him 'appearing' presidential and fooling people into actually thinking that he's presidential than I am of his usual unhinged and scary self. If people lean on the former, they're fooling themselves and it helps no one.

i am still stunned that the VOICE thing isn't the main headline right now, everywhere

at least it headlines this thread title. that's comforting

from last night:

@pareene
here's an idea for everyone: Treasure of the Sierra Madre is on TCM literally right now

@DontFollowDave
either way you get to watch a delusional man who does not trust Mexicans get consumed by his greed

eh you don't like Sierra Madre

I do like it! I don't think it's one of the All-Time Greats.

(i like the Bugs Bunny cartoon where Fred C Dobbs appears more)

More useful way of spending last night, at least, similar to how some of us went to a screening of Blaxploitation trailers at a local art house last night

i walked around the Waldorf Astoria (closing today for a condo makeover). Not a Trump hotel.

Related:

Thing I did not know: 70s Ed McMahon was the villain in Jim Brown's _Slaughter's Big Rip-Off_

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AVTCzZLCT90

http://ep.yimg.com/ay/yhst-85769506338114/mcmahon-ed-photo-signed-autograph-slaughter-s-big-rip-off-1973-11.gif

Trump aside, watching these GOP idiots reveal themselves as idiots never gets old: http://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/iowa-pol-s-bio-changed-after-sizzler-u-discrepancy-emerges-n726961

An Iowa lawmaker who is pushing a controversial bill that caps the number of Democrats that state universities can hire as professors claimed on a government web site that he got a "business degree" from the "Forbco Management school."

But State Sen. Mark Chelgren's alleged alma mater is actually a company that operated a Sizzler steak house franchise in southern California and he doesn't have a "degree," Ed Failor, a spokesman for the Iowa State Republicans, told NBC News.

"This was a management course he took when he worked for Sizzler, kind of like Hamburger University at McDonald's," Failor said. "He got a certificate."

Asked if Chelgren has a college degree, Failor said, "That's not accurate."

Shortly after speaking with a reporter, the reference to Forbco Management "business degree" was removed from Chelgren's biography on the Iowa State Republicans web site.

Chelgren told NBC News on Wednesday he was not trying to inflate his education credentials.

His LinkedIn profile claims he studied "geophysics and astrophysics" at UC Riverside.

from his photo it looks like he's been using Sizzler baked potatoes as face moisturizer.

everyone is getting played

President Donald Trump has decided to delay signing a new executive order to replace the order to suspend the refugee program and bar travel from seven predominantly Muslim countries, according to reports from CNN and Politico late Tuesday night.

The President was initially scheduled to sign the new executive action on Wednesday, but the administration decided to postpone the signing so that the order would come down during a new news cycle, according to the reports.

An unnamed senior administration official told CNN that Trump delayed the plans so the new order would have its own "moment." Politico also reported that the delay was due to a busy news cycle and that the White House wanted the new order to get plenty of news coverage, citing an unnamed senior official.

it's such a stark reminder that i (and many other people imo) have no fucking clue what's going on. i would expect that they'd want to BURY this kind of news at the end of a news cycle, not delay it so that it can have its own "moment". i feel so alienated from the rest of this country.

I doubt that it's possible to bury this news. I'm guessing he doesn't want to disrupt the "optimism" narrative right away.

also they're disorganized as fuck and can't get their shit together or focus on more than one thing at a time

He just thinks everyone loves everything he's doing, and that the media keeps spinning all of his fantastic accomplishments into negative stories via LIES. Therefore it would be unthinkable to purposely bury a new EO in the middle of a news cycle.

"Democrats are actively trying to quash whatever genuine resistance to Trump is out there even in the face of all this" I disagree with this

i'm beginning to think they're right. the travel ban IS good news to a lot of people. enough to outweigh the people who are appalled.

there certainly ARE some Dems who're all "Don't make him/them TOO angry," akm.

as for the walkout at the end of the speech, gimme a break, how fucking meaningless.

a cabinet of unqualified and compromised accomplices is too much for the Dems to handle :(

I first suggested this in '92 btw

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/oprah-for-president/

Democrats are actively trying to quash whatever genuine resistance to Trump is out there

I think this might be referring to the election of Perez as DNC chair over Ellison, which if true is a pretty extreme and defeatist interpretation of one isolated fact that cannot support such an extrapolation. It equates "genuine resistance" with "follows Bernie slavishly".

is chris cillizza the current Worst Political Pundit?

i'm beginning to think they're right. the travel ban IS good news to a lot of people. enough to outweigh the people who are appalled.

― Karl Malone, Wednesday, March 1, 2017 1:03 PM (twenty-six minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I don't agree with this. I think it's possible that the number of proponents combined with the number of people who are varying degrees of indifferent or under- or uninformed probably outweighs the number of people who are appalled, and that's a problem, but I do believe the hardcore 'MOOSLINS GO HOME' degenerates are still in the minority. They're just fucking loud and persistent.

xpost Worst at WaPo, at the very least.

is chris cillizza the current Worst Political Pundit?

― k3vin k., Wednesday, March 1, 2017 2:32 PM (one minute ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

haha he is completely awful

was going to post about him today

really embarrassing to see the CNN front page this AM, all triumphant trump and clasped hands and shining eyes and "optimistic message" bs

embodies all the worst traits of dumb beltway punditry xp

fuck. new normal we'll be utter shit.

*will

I'm pretty sympathetic to Van Jones, who had legit feelings of terror on election night, and probably still does, at least saying that Donald appeared Presidential and less scary, which might at least douse a few fires amongst his incitable base and ease tensions for the near future. Tensions that have immediate ramifications for him and his community

I don't think last night's speech was less scary for undocumented immigrants or people who could be mistaken for illegal immigrants.

It was scarier, even. Seems that a good % of our pundit class was more disturbed by the form of Trump's message than its content, given their consensus that he "softened" his "tone."

This was never about tone.

A few days ago an NBC News/WSJ poll said 51% Americans felt the media was too critical of Trump, and it was all over the news. But 2 weeks ago a Gallup poll found only 36% of Americans thought the media was too critical of Trump. Which I found a little strange, because that's a huge difference in a very short amount of time.

It felt like things were getting a little weird with Trump ... the DNC telling Democrats to lighten up on attacking Trump, then the Russia/impeachment stuff disappears off the radar. Then news outlets saying Trump should be given a chance and that now, all of a sudden, a majority of Americans think everyone's being too hard on the poor guy.

So Trump goes up last night and says the same batshit insane stuff he says always, promising even more dangerous plans than before, in the middle of news of a huge spike in hate crimes. It's like ... what the fuck is going on here? The media's response to Trump seems to have been building up for a little bit.

Links to the polls:

http://thehill.com/homenews/media/317989-poll-36-percent-say-media-is-too-tough-on-trump
https://www.usnews.com/news/politics/articles/2017-02-27/majority-of-americans-think-press-has-been-too-critical-of-trump-poll-finds

is chris cillizza the current Worst Political Pundit?

― k3vin k., Wednesday, March 1, 2017 2:32 PM (one minute ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

haha he is completely awful

― marcos, Wednesday, March 1, 2017 2:34 PM (thirteen minutes ago

fortunately "Morning Joe" has him and Mark Halperin at the same time!

V Jones said "He became president tonight." Fuck him, he's a Yam-enabling dick.

how the HELL can you people watch those shows?

V Jones said "He became president tonight."

Yes, President of the Philippines.

Whatever the hell's going on here, we're certainly not invited to the party. Oh man.

i'm beginning to think they're right. the travel ban IS good news to a lot of people. enough to outweigh the people who are appalled.

― Karl Malone, Wednesday, March 1, 2017 1:03 PM (twenty-six minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I don't agree with this. I think it's possible that the number of proponents combined with the number of people who are varying degrees of indifferent or under- or uninformed probably outweighs the number of people who are appalled, and that's a problem, but I do believe the hardcore 'MOOSLINS GO HOME' degenerates are still in the minority. They're just fucking loud and persistent.

i'm not sure i agree with myself either, lol. sad lol. i recognize i'm at a bit of a cynical anti-social misanthropic low. i can't keep it at bay, not today at least.

BUT, humoring the misanthropy and disgust with my fellow patriotic eagle citizens, let me say this. the first Muslim ban was very poorly received, obviously. but the reason it was widely panned and trump took a hit was because of how poorly it was executed - the sudden springing of it, the failure of agencies to properly communicate beforehand, the resultant confusion and contradicting responses, the people stranded at airports in legal limbo, and so on. but i think the underlying, terrible aspect of it - the racism and the xenophobic nature of it, the purposeful ostracizing of muslims in the name of "anti-terrorism", even though none of the countries named in the ban were contributors to domestic terrorism - was only appalling to a segment of people. when they issue the revised muslim ban, which might even have been looked at by a lawyer or two and hold up to scrutiny in court, and with effects that will be abstracted rather than blindingly obvious like the first time around, i think the response will be muted from the left. i think the majority doesn't care enough to raise too much of a fuss about it.

Winfrey/Morbz '20

but we will see

all i know is that i keep expecting the worst out of this country, and my low expectations keep getting, er, under-exceeded

i think the response will be muted from the left.

you are wrong about this