Dogs & Cats, Living Together: TV's Legion

whatever his name is he's not going to pop up in legion

OR IS HE

James Howlett, the hairiest plot loophole

Holy christ new ep was scary as fuck

Is it still good after three episodes? (Haven't read thread yet).

I'm finding it simultaneously really creepy and a bit boring. Episode one, yeah! Great! Exciting! And now we're all sitting around twitching and talking about our feelings and sharing expository dialogue and delving into the same memory over and over again and it all feels a bit stuck. Maybe I'm just watching it too late at night and I'm too tired.

Holy christ new ep was scary as fuck

So on a scale where 1 is "Trapped in a MRI machine while Mike Myers' Fat Bastard is staring in at you and about to touch your feet", what does the new episode score?

Trish, I haven't seen the new one yet but yeah the second one tried to have its cake and eat it, intercutting between scary soldiers in the woods and their largely unconcerned prey. But I could watch another 8-9 episodes which are just memory hi-jinks, so I'm okay with that.

New episode has even more terrifying stuck-in-tight-spaces-while-being-menaced-by-childhood-terrors good times to look forward to, but for me it also has the added tension of A DOG, so now I'm waiting for something horrible to happen to the dog.

See, for me I am SUPER into the memory explorations because Melanie & the memory creation dude are coming at this from the x-men "he just hasnt learned to control his powers yet" that we the audience are already kiiiinda familiar with as a trope by now

and we the audience are a slight step ahead - we have a feeling that maybe it's not just powers, there's some deep mental illness/trauma/fear gojng on that we dont 100% understand

so I am super into watching the professionals catch up to us, learn through their testing what we kind of assume but don't know for sure - that David is something other than what they assumed, not only a bajillion times more powerful but waaaay darker & more broken than they're qualified to deal with.

I think the idea that maybe they're making him worse rather than better by just wandering around his memories like a shopping mall ... it's clear they're out of their depth & i love it .... ugh this is sooooo tl:dr i couldhave said this in 2 sentences sorry lol

like i kind of think that gross yellow eyed dude and bighead angry boy are maybe gatekeepers for the worst memories that he is not accessing, that even David maybe doesn't know he has. like he's somehow mentally abdicated control to the yellow eyed guy and the bighead angry boy

idk

it's fucking cool though

it's clear they're out of their depth & i love it .... ugh this is sooooo tl:dr i couldhave said this in 2 sentences sorry lol

No, I get what you're saying. I am probably being too impatient. I think it's just that I've seen so many shows where they start with something really exciting and then just backfill and backfill and make no forward progress, and I am just worried that this is going to go the same way. And I don't want it to, because it is extremely promising.

But I hadn't considered that they are making things worse.

the fact that they just drag him into these memories without any psychological guidance or consideration is so crazy to me!

it is like watching a car crash in slow motion

like throwing lit matches at a can of gasoline

like rain on yr wedding day no wait

Yeah the lightbulb bit for me was his "what if I'm not sane?" bit. Like, what if he has powers and hes also nuts? And thus freaking dangerous?

That latest ep was great btw. I'm loving this show. Same guy as fargo S2 does the soundtrack, so it has all that tense Tangerine Dreamish arpeggio stuff going on. "Traycebait" as my bf called it, lol.

hey, they're starting to pull back the curtains

Highly recommend the Reddit on this show btw, ppl coming up with some excellent theories.

Last night's episode was incredible--that final shot gave me chills.

My god. This show

we were two episodes behind. we watched the 3rd one tnite. too scary!!!

I said to Mr Veg this is like the nightmare child of David Lynch & Wes Anderson

i wanted to watch the 4th but mrs mordy needed respite

it's def not a binge show. O_O

It's one of the few shows where I really care that I'm watching it in something like real time (IE the laughably low bar that I watch one episode before the next one appears on TiVo).

I said to Mr Veg this is like the nightmare child of David Lynch & Wes Anderson

there is nothing Lynchian about this show imo

The Devil with Yellow Eyes counts, not least for the name.

all the "surreal" shit has a one-to-one plot or character function

on another note, this show should really have been about the dude and teenage girl who share a body

is Lynch yr dad or something

Simon H, I take some small umbrage at being dismissed like a child, but i'll explain my reasoning.

My reason for citing Lynch is because of the way the boogeymen-type characters are shown/revealed etc. Brief glimpses & flashes in shadowy hallways, frightening closeups that quickly cut away & the soundscapes/music that accompany to create these terrifying *experiences*. The waking-nighmare quality of those portions of the show are for me very Lynchian

Cool if you disagree, it's not a hill I have to die on

we just watched ep 4. guys, this show is so good.

my theory - the dog was the personification of his childhood innocence. At some pt something (the father?) disrupts that innocence and the dog becomes the Demon with the Yellow Eyes - a manifestation of everything that is angry and violent about David.

Jemaine Clement killing it

yes absolutely. there were so many things i liked about that episode but i would be bummed if we doesn't reprise his role (and i feel like he must)

sorry to be dismissive VG, I'm currently rewatching Twin Peaks and seeing a lot of folks make kneejerk Lynch comparisons (as people do whenever a new thing incorporates dreams and/or weird lighting schemes) and it's been rubbing me wrong. I can see where you're coming from.

if he* xp

xp no worries! <3

jemaine was awesome, so happy he's in this

i like yr dog theory mordy!

lenny = the yellow eyed man was something i wasnt ready for, holy fuck is aubrey plaza doing some good malevolent work here, goddamn i love her

lenny actually being benny is interesting. who actually got stuck in that wall and died, if anyone?

right? total mindfuck

Oh my god this show peaked with Jemaine doing beat poems

and when I say "this show" I mean "all television"

astral purgatory

The minute I realised it was Jemaine at the start I was very pleased.

I feel like I have less idea wtf is going on now tho, geez. So the ex gf isnt dead? I was going on the angle he'd killed her and blocked it out.

Or hang on, wasnt that actually her, given it obviously wasnt the doc either?

I think it was her. She dumped him after coming home and finding him all vapefrogged out with big old gross Benny

Re the Lenny/Benny thing, I think they are actually 2 people. Benny was real pre-Clockworks. Lenny was real and a CLockworks patient, until she got killed by Syd, and then the yellow eyed dude has taken on her form and overlaid the Benny memories with Lennys form. Why I have no idea,something about controlling david?

From above:

Lenny was apparently written as a middle-aged man until the show-runner met Plaza - she insisted on keeping the lines as was - which does explain her enthusiasm for the idea of having tits.

(I have no idea what this means regarding the revelation)

I wonder if they're going so far as to spread misinformation. Probably not, but.

I find the thematic underpinnings of this show a little concerning but I like the storytelling as much as anything I've ever seen on television. It also has the genre-plastic throw-shit-at-the-wall approach of a lot of the comics I like (it does seem way more Shade than anything else, even the outfits) though given the lack of humour it's maybe more Hickman than it is Morrison or Milligan.

Definitely not very Claremont though, thank fuck.