Dogs & Cats, Living Together: TV's Legion

just finished ep 1. just now realizing how funny it is that only when charred skeletons started falling into the swimming pool did my wife say "that was weird."

lol

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that children's book

right?!

at first i thought it was maurice sendak's pierre but it was much darker

having the faceless shadow-dad makes it way creepier

feel like they're eventually going to get over this syd no-touching thing by having telepathy mind sex

yeah i think so too, it's got a short shelf life otherwise lol

hoping she meets someone else whose with a superpower that lets her fuck that person instead, just to drive the hysteria level up

sound design in this is so great, the way they so clearly layer voices to whispered, tinny, etc

Yes, I've been meaning to say that too. Dan Stevens' tic-acting is wearing incredibly thin for me but the approach to sound design is really something else. I don't think I've ever seen a TV show be so adventurous (I guess the "going crazy" aspect gives them this license)

The whole MRI business was about to give me a goddamn heart attack. Hey Bill Irwin - love your work but your character needs to get fired I think

yeah that MRi was terrifying noooope no thanks

I am vapefrog

otm

#vapefrog

Just caught up with the first 2 eps. Love this. BF made the observation the story moves in a rather Slaughterhouse Five way which I thought was a good point (if not perhaps on purpose).

I liked Dan's ticcy schizoid mannerisms!

How close to the comic/Xmen universe is this hewing?

At the moment:

. David Haller is a character in the X-Men comics
. They say the word 'mutant'
. Er...
. That's it

All the other characters in the show appear to have been invented for it (though what is reality, etc)

Right. So, the thing that immediately spoils this guys backstory if you look him up on wiki (ie who his parents are) is not going to be relevant or a thing here? I guess no one knows now that I type that out.

yeah, doubt it's a thing, but who knows?

It occurs to me they did have that memory scene where he couldnt see his dads face...

well now you have to know the spoiler that in the comics he never met his bio-dad until he was a teen and was raised by a stepdad

AH! ok that makes sense. Yeah I dont know this comic's story at all tbh. I dont suppose that will matter?

not a bit

a dude on the nerdist website did a recap on legion's comicbook backstory & i was like O_o O_O whuuuuuut & then I had a stroke

I am assuming that the reason this is a mutant story is that it was an easy way to get it made. But then I never watched Fargo - is that tightly tied to the film, or just an excuse to set a story in an insular town?

it is very tangentially related to the film--there are some archetype characters that are similar to major characters in the film (and one major piece of connective tissue), but it tells its own story. Season 2 has nothing to do with the film, as far as I can remember.

I feel like Legion's attitude toward its source material is probably similar to Fargo's. Wolverine's not gonna show up, ya know?

OR IS HE

i was trying to think what x-men cameos would be tonally appropriate w/ the show. xavier maybe?

I'm sorry, he's "Logan" now

xp

Fargo is so good. It has virtually nothing to do with the film.

That said, I'm afraid to start this. Is it still good after three episodes? (Haven't read thread yet).

i was thinking rogue might be good but syd is essentially thematically rogue already

xp it's still good, JiC

Wolverine was always Logan? Which isn't even his real name but an alias he *mumbles off into comic oblivion*

just a reference to the new movie which is titled after his new/old name

they call him Logan all the time in the movies!

half of The Wolverine was him imagining Jean saying "logan" interspersed with the actual plot

whatever his name is he's not going to pop up in legion

OR IS HE

James Howlett, the hairiest plot loophole

Holy christ new ep was scary as fuck

Is it still good after three episodes? (Haven't read thread yet).

I'm finding it simultaneously really creepy and a bit boring. Episode one, yeah! Great! Exciting! And now we're all sitting around twitching and talking about our feelings and sharing expository dialogue and delving into the same memory over and over again and it all feels a bit stuck. Maybe I'm just watching it too late at night and I'm too tired.

Holy christ new ep was scary as fuck

So on a scale where 1 is "Trapped in a MRI machine while Mike Myers' Fat Bastard is staring in at you and about to touch your feet", what does the new episode score?

Trish, I haven't seen the new one yet but yeah the second one tried to have its cake and eat it, intercutting between scary soldiers in the woods and their largely unconcerned prey. But I could watch another 8-9 episodes which are just memory hi-jinks, so I'm okay with that.

New episode has even more terrifying stuck-in-tight-spaces-while-being-menaced-by-childhood-terrors good times to look forward to, but for me it also has the added tension of A DOG, so now I'm waiting for something horrible to happen to the dog.

See, for me I am SUPER into the memory explorations because Melanie & the memory creation dude are coming at this from the x-men "he just hasnt learned to control his powers yet" that we the audience are already kiiiinda familiar with as a trope by now

and we the audience are a slight step ahead - we have a feeling that maybe it's not just powers, there's some deep mental illness/trauma/fear gojng on that we dont 100% understand

so I am super into watching the professionals catch up to us, learn through their testing what we kind of assume but don't know for sure - that David is something other than what they assumed, not only a bajillion times more powerful but waaaay darker & more broken than they're qualified to deal with.

I think the idea that maybe they're making him worse rather than better by just wandering around his memories like a shopping mall ... it's clear they're out of their depth & i love it .... ugh this is sooooo tl:dr i couldhave said this in 2 sentences sorry lol

like i kind of think that gross yellow eyed dude and bighead angry boy are maybe gatekeepers for the worst memories that he is not accessing, that even David maybe doesn't know he has. like he's somehow mentally abdicated control to the yellow eyed guy and the bighead angry boy

idk

it's fucking cool though

it's clear they're out of their depth & i love it .... ugh this is sooooo tl:dr i couldhave said this in 2 sentences sorry lol

No, I get what you're saying. I am probably being too impatient. I think it's just that I've seen so many shows where they start with something really exciting and then just backfill and backfill and make no forward progress, and I am just worried that this is going to go the same way. And I don't want it to, because it is extremely promising.

But I hadn't considered that they are making things worse.

the fact that they just drag him into these memories without any psychological guidance or consideration is so crazy to me!

it is like watching a car crash in slow motion

like throwing lit matches at a can of gasoline

like rain on yr wedding day no wait

Yeah the lightbulb bit for me was his "what if I'm not sane?" bit. Like, what if he has powers and hes also nuts? And thus freaking dangerous?