RFI: What is Dadrock?

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this is a good thread. british-centric, though. are bands like wilco, white stripes, strokes, etc dadrock?

macaulay culkin's bukkake shocker (bug), Thursday, 30 April 2009 09:51 (fifteen years ago) link

It's funny what you think is "Dad rock". I suppose it's how old your dad is. I think of it as seventies.

Kevin Yates, Phys. Ed. (u s steel), Thursday, 30 April 2009 10:03 (fifteen years ago) link

no, my dad is dad-aged. but dad rock doesn't have to be made by actual dads.

macaulay culkin's bukkake shocker (bug), Thursday, 30 April 2009 10:07 (fifteen years ago) link

this is a good thread. british-centric, though. are bands like wilco, white stripes, strokes, etc dadrock?

I guess Wilco. Not White Stripes or The Strokes.

I think a band can be "dadrock" if it is (a) especially influenced by 70s-sounding classic-rock or country-rock and/or (b) overly-controlled or polite. Wilco falls into both categories. The others less so (White Stripes have too much rock energy; The Strokes too much of a snotty attitude). Having said that, I love Wilco, especially their last -- and especially "dadrock" sounding -- disc, Sky Blue Sky, while I'm ambivalent about The White Stripes and couldn't care less about The Strokes. I'm also a dad in my early 40s, so I have plenty of "dadrock" bona fides.

Daniel, Esq., Thursday, 30 April 2009 10:34 (fifteen years ago) link

My dad seems to like Fleet Foxes. Not sure if they're what I'd typically think of as dad rock but he heard it on Radio 2, who are probably one of the gatekeepers of what is/isn't.

try to fix the puffiness with some nolva and then go juicin' (gnarly sceptre), Thursday, 30 April 2009 11:42 (fifteen years ago) link

dadrock never went away

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Thursday, 30 April 2009 14:08 (fifteen years ago) link

i like 'dadrock' now because its 'cool' to listen to it 'ironically' as a 'young man' but worry that it wont be 'cool' for me to listen to 'dadrock' when im actually a 'dad'

advice please

rip dom passantino 3/5/09 never forget (max), Thursday, 30 April 2009 14:10 (fifteen years ago) link

I wonder what Stepdadrock sounds like

Sacco, Vanzetti, Passantino... (Tom D.), Thursday, 30 April 2009 14:11 (fifteen years ago) link

i think that once you're actually a dad it's impossible for you to be cool, no matter what you listen to

congratulations (n/a), Thursday, 30 April 2009 14:12 (fifteen years ago) link

As a dad, I can say with absolute certainty that the litmus test for dadrock-entry is Animal Collective. If you love them and think everything they do is genius you're still hip. If you don't quite get what the fuss is about, welcome to the wonderful world of dadrock.

kornrulez6969, Thursday, 30 April 2009 14:16 (fifteen years ago) link

is there any mumrock (apart from Bon Jovi) ?

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Thursday, 30 April 2009 14:16 (fifteen years ago) link

As a dad, I can say with absolute certainty that the litmus test for dadrock-entry is Animal Collective. If you love them and think everything they do is genius you're still hip. If you don't quite get what the fuss is about, welcome to the wonderful world of dadrock.

if hating animal collective is wrong I don't want to be right

鬼の手 (Edward III), Thursday, 30 April 2009 14:22 (fifteen years ago) link

Múm Rock

Sacco, Vanzetti, Passantino... (Tom D.), Thursday, 30 April 2009 14:22 (fifteen years ago) link

As a dad, I can say with absolute certainty that the litmus test for dadrock-entry is Animal Collective. If you love them and think everything they do is genius you're still hip. If you don't quite get what the fuss is about, welcome to the wonderful world of dadrock.

Aren't they exactly the sort of band an ageing ex-indie hipster who's now a dad in his mid-to-late 30s, or older, would listen to

Sacco, Vanzetti, Passantino... (Tom D.), Thursday, 30 April 2009 14:24 (fifteen years ago) link

if hating animal collective is wrong I don't want to be right

FTW

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 30 April 2009 14:25 (fifteen years ago) link

Aren't they exactly the sort of band an ageing ex-indie hipster who's now a dad in his mid-to-late 30s, or older, would listen to

They're exactly the sort of band an aging ex-indie hipster who's now a dad would feel they're supposed to like if they were still cool. And despite having given them a fair chance and even enjoying an EP's worth of material, they just don't get it.

Another sign of dadrock-entry: You can't tell all the various "Wolf" or "Mountain" bands apart and you don't really care.

kornrulez6969, Thursday, 30 April 2009 14:29 (fifteen years ago) link

You can't tell all the various "Wolf" or "Mountain" bands apart and you don't really care.

ha ! you have me totally summed up in one easy to remember sentence.

mark e, Thursday, 30 April 2009 15:05 (fifteen years ago) link

lol this is some weird definitions of dadrock

just sayin, Thursday, 30 April 2009 15:08 (fifteen years ago) link

why not just make it 'you dont get all yr music from mp3 blogs'

just sayin, Thursday, 30 April 2009 15:08 (fifteen years ago) link

I know a couple of 30-something dudes who like Animal Collective. I don't feel uncool in the slightest for thinking they're turd.

Sickamous Mouthall (Scik Mouthy), Thursday, 30 April 2009 15:18 (fifteen years ago) link

Ed III, Ned, Southall OTMFM

sorry for british (country matters), Thursday, 30 April 2009 15:20 (fifteen years ago) link

coolness was never an option in my world, before or after i became a dad, but i now feel very bad that i never listened to my promo of 'sung tongs' all the way through.

mark e, Thursday, 30 April 2009 15:22 (fifteen years ago) link

Fuck, I know a 50-something mum who likes them, and it was one of the 30-something blokes who got her into them.

She asked Em if we were going to see The Hold Steady the other day. (She's Em's section head at work.)

Sickamous Mouthall (Scik Mouthy), Thursday, 30 April 2009 15:22 (fifteen years ago) link

Sung Tongs is better than the last two.

Sickamous Mouthall (Scik Mouthy), Thursday, 30 April 2009 15:22 (fifteen years ago) link

I guess The Lex's AC h8r posts were just subliminally pimping the dadrock he lives and loves all along then

National Lampoon's Minimal House (DJ Mencap), Thursday, 30 April 2009 15:22 (fifteen years ago) link

Having said that, I love Wilco, especially their last -- and especially "dadrock" sounding -- disc, Sky Blue Sky

tis a really good disc and i actually first heard this through my dad who said something along the lines of "wilco are kinda the only game in town for us old timers".

QE II, Thursday, 30 April 2009 18:03 (fifteen years ago) link

There is no such thing as "dadrock". It's called Britpop, and it was the best thing to happen to music for the entire 90s.

Geir Hongro, Thursday, 30 April 2009 22:13 (fifteen years ago) link

And there is of course nothing negative about being liked by dads. The majority of people with a musical taste that is not compete rubbish have become dads by now.

Geir Hongro, Thursday, 30 April 2009 22:14 (fifteen years ago) link

or mums?

sorry for british (country matters), Thursday, 30 April 2009 22:14 (fifteen years ago) link

I would say most mums still have a rubbish taste. Celine Dion and Mariah Carey are hardly worthy :)

Geir Hongro, Thursday, 30 April 2009 22:15 (fifteen years ago) link

There is no such thing as "dadrock". It's called Britpop, and it was the best worst thing to happen to music for the entire 90s ever.

the old grey mare hoos ain't what he hoosed to be (state of the world today), Thursday, 30 April 2009 22:16 (fifteen years ago) link

Now of course the best thing of all would have been if music had stopped developing forever in 1984 and the same genres that dominated the charts in 1984 would have done forever without any change. Then Britpop wouldn't have been needed either.

Geir Hongro, Thursday, 30 April 2009 22:17 (fifteen years ago) link

(And I am not talking Grandmaster Flash here)

Geir Hongro, Thursday, 30 April 2009 22:18 (fifteen years ago) link

what kind of music do deadbeat dads listen to?

velko, Thursday, 30 April 2009 22:20 (fifteen years ago) link

RATT

ogmor, Thursday, 30 April 2009 23:26 (fifteen years ago) link

We got this guy in town who would set up amps and a PA in the park and perform his brimstone 'n' damnation songs with his middle-school aged kids as the backing band. He played a lime-green 80s Kramer, then. Looks like he's got a band with other Dads now:

http://www.prime.org/

bendy, Friday, 1 May 2009 00:00 (fifteen years ago) link

I gotta say, Geir is in especially fine form, here.

Earl of Gothington Manor (Bimble), Friday, 1 May 2009 00:23 (fifteen years ago) link

I guess I have no idea what dadrock is. I always thought it referred to stuff like Tom Petty, Springsteen, and Bob Seger.

worldwide global pandemic (Z S), Friday, 1 May 2009 00:28 (fifteen years ago) link

I would NEVER label any britpop group as dadrock.

worldwide global pandemic (Z S), Friday, 1 May 2009 00:28 (fifteen years ago) link

You're right about American dads. I guess it would be Wilco.

Kevin Yates, Phys. Ed. (u s steel), Friday, 1 May 2009 00:32 (fifteen years ago) link

British people don't have Dads

loaded forbear (gabbneb), Friday, 1 May 2009 00:34 (fifteen years ago) link

There is no such thing as "dadrock". It's called Britpop, and it was the best thing to happen to music for the entire 90s.

Ocean Colour Scene and Paul Weller were not britpop. They were Dadrock.

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Friday, 1 May 2009 00:55 (fifteen years ago) link

xp ZS: Yeah that's what I thought of as dadrock - along with stuff like The Eagles, Chicago, Boston, Billy Joel ...

giving a shit when it isn't your turn to give a shit (sarahel), Friday, 1 May 2009 01:20 (fifteen years ago) link

The Smiths are for people who like/need lyrics so a certain variety of critic spazzs out over them.

Cocteaus are for people who like music so Xgau and his ilk shit on them.

I remember listening to the first single and literally moaning, Oh fuck, I'm NEVER going to hear the end of this.

Cocteaus by a flanging mile.

i, grey, Friday, 1 May 2009 05:39 (fifteen years ago) link

American Dad Rock? Survey said!

Foreigner
Lou Gramm
Eagles
KISS
Fleetwood Mac
Steve Winwood
Eric Clapton
Paul Simon
Cat Stevens
Tom Petty and the Heartbreakers
Bruce Springsteen
Bon Jovi
Jefferson Airplane/Jefferson Starship/Starship
Willie Nelson
Glenn Frey
Cream
Toto
Emerson, Lake & Palmer
David Bowie
Queen
Jackson Browne
The Byrds
Bread
The Who
Journey

And that's from an actual dad's Lastfm chart, no less.

Cunga, Friday, 1 May 2009 06:21 (fifteen years ago) link

American "dadrock" already has a name. It's AOR. Most of those name fit into that term, and the rest don't fit in with the rest musically at all.

Geir Hongro, Friday, 1 May 2009 07:03 (fifteen years ago) link

Sure, I'm just posting, for the sake of accuracy, what an actual "born in the 50s and stills loves the 70s" dad listened to regularly. And if you think some of the above bands really don't fit in with what dadrock is, let me warn you that Sixpence None the Richer barely missed the cut.

Cunga, Friday, 1 May 2009 07:21 (fifteen years ago) link

I still see nothing wrong in that, although the best way to get rid of Britpop would probably be for dads and teachers to get heavily into hip-hop. Then the kids would move on and find something else (and possibly better).

Geir Hongro, Friday, 1 May 2009 07:32 (fifteen years ago) link


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