I Never MENA Hurt You; I Never MENA Make You Cry 2017 (Middle East, North Africa, and Other Geopolitical Hotspots)

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If Hamas did have a sincere interest in ending the blockade perhaps they could make a counter offer to disarm their rocket arsenals and other weapons clearly intended for waging war against Israel, but get to keep their more conventional arms that they need to suppress internal dissent. I suspect they will not, though, for the first reason I gave. Their entire raison d'etre is refusing to compromise with Israel. (On a least overt level I believe this existential reason is responsible for much of the conflict between Israel and Palestinian nationalism but that's a huge conversation I'm not really interested in getting into atm.)

Mordy, Friday, 17 February 2017 00:57 (seven years ago) link

Remember Aleppo. Curious about what's happening there lately I googled and just found this--

Less than 20 hours after water supply was fully restored in the eastern Aleppo countryside, ISIS shut it down once more after a month-long outage in the Al-Khafseh area.

This region represents an area which has seen the Syrian Arab Army (SAA) capture over a dozen villages from ISIS in the past month; effectively, the water shutdown can be seen as a infrastructural way for the Islamic State to retaliate.

https://www.almasdarnews.com/article/islamic-state-cuts-off-water-supply-aleppo/

curmudgeon, Friday, 17 February 2017 12:11 (seven years ago) link

The Saudis have obviously figured out that flattery is essential when approaching trump.

a little too mature to be cute (Aimless), Sunday, 19 February 2017 19:05 (seven years ago) link

The U.S. military commander in Iraq has said he believes

U.S.-backed forces will retake both of IS's urban bastions - Mosul and Raqqa in neighboring Syria - within the next six months, which would end the jihadists' ambitions to territorial rule three years after they declared a "caliphate".

...

"This is the grim choice for children in western Mosul right now: bombs, crossfire and hunger if they stay – or execution and snipers if they try to run," the Save the Children humanitarian agency said in a statement. It added that children comprise about half the population in the city's western sector.

Up to 400,000 civilians could be displaced by the offensive, with western Mosul suffering food and fuel shortages and markets closed, according to the United Nations.

curmudgeon, Tuesday, 21 February 2017 19:26 (seven years ago) link

http://www.defensenews.com/articles/new-houthi-weapon-emerges-a-drone-boat

ABU DHABI, United Arab Emirates — The Houthi boat that attacked and hit a Saudi frigate Jan. 30 in the Red Sea, reported earlier as a suicide boat, was instead carried out by an unmanned, remote-controlled craft filled with explosives, the US Navy’s top officer in the Mideast said.

“Our assessment is that it was an unmanned, remote-controlled boat of some kind,” Vice Adm. Kevin Donegan, commander of the Bahrain-based US Fifth Fleet and head of US Naval Forces Central Command, told Defense News in an interview here Saturday.

The attack on the frigate Al Madinah appears to be the first confirmed use of the weapon which, Donegan said, represents a wider threat than that posed by suicide boats and shows foreign interests are aiding the Houthis.

goole, Tuesday, 21 February 2017 22:51 (seven years ago) link

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/feb/20/rockets-fired-into-southern-israel-from-egypts-sinai

Isis being driven up north, this seems a 'logical' attack from their side. I don't believe ISIS can do any real damage in Israel, luckily, but I do wonder if stuff like this will get Bibi (even) more on board with Trumps supposed plans to "fight ISIS" more? Stingy for Israel to get involved with ISIS imho.

Le Bateau Ivre, Wednesday, 22 February 2017 00:27 (seven years ago) link

If Bibi dedicates resources to fighting ISIS I don't think it'll be bc of rockets from Sinai but because he thinks it'll curry favor with either Trump, Saudis or both.

Mordy, Wednesday, 22 February 2017 00:32 (seven years ago) link

Yeah, that's what I am thinking. Even Bibi would not act on this threat without an outspoken, full support of Israel's allies imho. Hitching the wagon to allies seems the best option for Israel, instead of reacting solo.

Le Bateau Ivre, Wednesday, 22 February 2017 00:39 (seven years ago) link

koplow on how the republican congress is more hawkish on PA aid than the Israeli ministry of defense, AIPAC, and the IDF:
http://www.matzavblog.com/2017/03/perplexing-problem-propping-pa/

Mordy, Thursday, 2 March 2017 18:45 (seven years ago) link

The US religious right enjoys the position of being ultra-hawkish about wars they wish to be fought, by others, somewhere far from their own homes.

a little too mature to be cute (Aimless), Thursday, 2 March 2017 18:47 (seven years ago) link

also there are american zionist orgs that are more hawkish than aipac and the idf, like the ZOA which supports the taylor force act.

Mordy, Thursday, 2 March 2017 18:55 (seven years ago) link

two weeks pass...

trump administration wants to give the cia back its droning powers (currently only with DOJ) so we can expect more of this and less accountability in the future

officer sonny bonds, lytton pd (mayor jingleberries), Friday, 17 March 2017 21:04 (seven years ago) link

Frankly, the inability to ensure that there was more legal oversight over drone warfare in undeclared wars was one of my biggest objections to Obama administration foreign policy.

I think its possibly morally acceptable for the US to make drone strikes against persons that don't present an immanent threat to US territory (and really, no one in the target countries really does), but the extension of presidential powers to wage undeclared war doesn't make a whole lot of sense outside of the context of strategic/nuclear threats, and *immanent* threats. Its just a recipe for long-term blowback.

I think it was a huge mistake to not to encourage some legislative restrictions on this in 2012-, considering our electorate is only 4 for 6 in picking non-demented commanders-in-chief over the past 36 years.

Sanpaku, Friday, 17 March 2017 22:13 (seven years ago) link

Meanwhile, Israel went on an excursion into Syria in search of Hezbollah from Lebanon

Syria fired missiles at Israeli warplanes on a mission to destroy a weapons convoy destined for the Iranian-backed Lebanese militant group Hezbollah prompting it to deploy its missile defense system, Israeli officials said Friday, in a rare military exchange between the two hostile neighbors. ...

"Our policy is very consistent. When we identify attempts to transfer advanced weapons to the Hezbollah, and we have the intelligence and the operational capability, we act to prevent that. That is what was and that is what will be," Netanyahu said.

Hezbollah is fighting alongside President Bashar Assad in the brutal Syrian civil war. The Iran-backed group is sworn to Israel's destruction and fought a month-long war with the Jewish state in 2006.

The firing of missiles from Syria toward Israeli aircraft is rare, though Israeli military officials reported a shoulder-fired missile attack a few months ago.

Israeli Channel 10 TV reported that Israel deployed its Arrow defense system for the first time against a real threat and hit an incoming missile, intercepting it before it exploded in Israel.

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The pan-Arab Al-Mayadeen TV, which has good sources within the militant group, dismissed reports by other Arab media outlets that a Hezbollah commander, Badee Hamiyeh, was killed in one of the airstrikes. It said Hamiyeh was killed Thursday in the southern Syrian region of Quneitra, near the Israeli-held Golan Heights.

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/nationworld/ct-syria-israel-airstrikes-20170317-story.html

curmudgeon, Saturday, 18 March 2017 14:59 (seven years ago) link

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curmudgeon, Saturday, 18 March 2017 17:40 (seven years ago) link

Israeli Defense Minister Avigdor Liberman has warned Syria that Israel will destroy its air defense system if Syria fires an anti-aircraft missile at Israeli aircraft again.

http://www.cnn.com/2017/03/19/middleeast/israel-syria-air-defenses-liberman/

curmudgeon, Monday, 20 March 2017 16:12 (seven years ago) link

Well good luck with that. If it was that easy, it would probably have been done.

Frederik B, Monday, 20 March 2017 17:29 (seven years ago) link

done by whom? FSA or ISIS? i don't doubt israel could do it but the considerations would obviously be what kind of reaction it would invite from hezbollah, iran, or even russia.

Mordy, Monday, 20 March 2017 17:30 (seven years ago) link

Wasn't the whole reason the US wouldn't do a no-fly zone that the cost of destroying the Syrian air defense system was too high? Obama didn't hold back out of care for the Syrians.

Frederik B, Monday, 20 March 2017 23:44 (seven years ago) link

Maintaining ongoing control of air space seems a bit more ambitious to me than bombing air facilities once.

Mordy, Monday, 20 March 2017 23:51 (seven years ago) link

Well, yes, but one bombing raid wouldn't 'destroy' it's air defence system.

Frederik B, Tuesday, 21 March 2017 00:36 (seven years ago) link

I seem to recall there were ongoing negotiations with the Russians as to where they and US air would operate. The situation is vastly more complicated than Iraq, Bosnia, and Libya.

Sanpaku, Wednesday, 22 March 2017 19:33 (seven years ago) link

Both ruling Kurdistan (KRG) parties KDP and PUK have agreed today to hold the referendum for independence this year.

Now they've been saying this for years and years, but it seems it's really going to happen this time. An overwhelming pro-independence vote is to be expected. It will be interesting to see how Baghdad, but especially Erdogan will respond to this.

On Some Faraday Beach (Le Bateau Ivre), Sunday, 2 April 2017 17:30 (seven years ago) link

they won't like it. seems like tillerson's pow-wow with erdogan has the kurds believing the usa will risk much erdogan unhappiness to keep the kurds fighting isis.

a little too mature to be cute (Aimless), Sunday, 2 April 2017 17:54 (seven years ago) link

Baghdad is at least willing to play ball and negotiate. And Barzani, KRG's president is on relative good terms with Erdo (which leads to Kurds from Syria and Iran criticizing him a lot). He has to, in a way, but they'll have some leverage. Baghdad knows independence is on the cards. I don't think the Kurds see the US as a strong reliable partner any more, they've been disappointed too much in the past. But the fighting Isis argument is a strong one no one can deny tbh.

On Some Faraday Beach (Le Bateau Ivre), Sunday, 2 April 2017 18:08 (seven years ago) link

https://theintercept.com/2017/04/03/white-house-meeting-with-egypts-tyrant-highlights-key-trump-effect-unmasking-u-s-policy/

Greenwald take on the longstanding US support of Egypt and Bahrain, and how now its just more out in the open as Sisi is at the White House today I think

curmudgeon, Monday, 3 April 2017 16:12 (seven years ago) link

pretty otm i can't disagree w/ anything he writes there

Mordy, Monday, 3 April 2017 16:21 (seven years ago) link

i do wonder how long we're going to have to wait into the new administration tho before glenn just frames his critiques as being against the administration as opposed to using trump to make a point about how bad the democrats are

Mordy, Monday, 3 April 2017 16:21 (seven years ago) link

Can we poll this question with him and Morbs?

Frederik B, Monday, 3 April 2017 16:35 (seven years ago) link

Ha ha. I think one option has to be "Greenwald will always just use T administration as a foil to make a point about how bad the Democratic party is"

curmudgeon, Monday, 3 April 2017 17:15 (seven years ago) link

There are ten thousand journalists pointing out why Trump is bad, I think the world can cope with a handful pointing out that Trump is bad and the Democrats should be substantially better on major issues than they have been.

Wag1 Shree Rajneesh (ShariVari), Monday, 3 April 2017 17:43 (seven years ago) link

Ya soglasen, comrade.

Mordy, Monday, 3 April 2017 17:47 (seven years ago) link

Of course we can cope. That's what the poll is for.

Frederik B, Monday, 3 April 2017 17:50 (seven years ago) link

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/04/05/un-security-council-holds-emergency-meeting-syria-chemical-attack/

Russia has threatened to veto any resolution by the UN security council on a suspected chemical attack in Syria which is feared to have killed dozens of civilians, including children, claiming it is based on "false information."

Meanwhile

"No one — not even President Obama, as far as I could tell — was satisfied with the Obama administration’s approach to the conflict in Syria," Andrew Exum, who was an Obama appointee at the Pentagon, writes for The Atlantic. "But if you assembled all of the Obama administration’s critics in one room, they would not agree on an obvious alternative. The problem is wicked enough to confound easy solutions, and each policy alternative had strategic and moral deficiencies."

curmudgeon, Wednesday, 5 April 2017 16:05 (seven years ago) link

45's tweet versus-

After Syria attack, US Ambassador to UN Nikki Haley asks, "How many more children have to die before Russia cares?"

curmudgeon, Wednesday, 5 April 2017 16:08 (seven years ago) link

Has Trump really changed his mind re Syria?

curmudgeon, Thursday, 6 April 2017 04:42 (seven years ago) link

fwiw i think the conspiracy theorizing is asinine but i'm not convinced assad ordered this strike. it really doesn't make much sense considering the course of the war so far and how it almost demands a response from trump. nb that doesn't mean that it was a false flag. it could've been ordered by someone lower down in the hierarchy of command. i've seen some ppl speculating that it could've been an airstrike hitting a chemical storage site and releasing the material (nb nb nb i have no idea how plausible this scenario is).

Mordy, Thursday, 6 April 2017 19:50 (seven years ago) link

That is the speculation Russia initially put forward but it's apparently thought that most nerve agents would combust if hit by a direct strike.

Wag1 Shree Rajneesh (ShariVari), Thursday, 6 April 2017 19:52 (seven years ago) link

the Russian explanation looks like serious ass-covering, shifting blame to the *rebels* since it was their warehouse full of chemical weapons etc.

Οὖτις, Thursday, 6 April 2017 19:54 (seven years ago) link

I don't find it v plausible but what do I know.

Οὖτις, Thursday, 6 April 2017 19:54 (seven years ago) link

All I know is that an order from Assad to drop chemicals at this point would be completely illogical and would gain him no advantages in his attempt to regain control of Syria and only jeopardize his hold on power which, for the first time in years, looks like it might be reestablished.

Mordy, Thursday, 6 April 2017 19:56 (seven years ago) link

so this happened:
http://www.jpost.com/Israel-News/Politics-And-Diplomacy/Jpost-Exclusive-Moscow-surprisingly-says-west-Jerusalem-is-Israels-capital-486336

MOSCOW SURPRISINGLY SAYS WEST JERUSALEM IS ISRAEL'S CAPITAL
BYHERB KEINON APRIL 6, 2017 17:36
No other country in the world recognizes any part of Jerusalem as Israel’s capital.

Mordy, Thursday, 6 April 2017 20:06 (seven years ago) link

Makes me wonder what was the secret part of the deal and what, if anything, does this recognition do to benefit the USA or its policies regarding the Mideast?

a little too mature to be cute (Aimless), Thursday, 6 April 2017 20:12 (seven years ago) link

The mainstream speculation is that he did it to guarantee Russia a place (/the place/?) at the table for upcoming Israel/Palestine negotiations. Who knows what he has agreed to w/ Bibi behind closed doors - they've been meeting a lot recently. It seems like Israel was not prepared for the announcement (they haven't commented yet). Maybe he wants to divert attention from Syria? Maybe he is buying Israeli cooperation/coordination on Syria/ISIS/something else?

Vis-a-vis the US I can't think of how it would actively benefit them. If anything it removes one of the bargaining chips they've kept on the table to use against Israel and if there's no concerted blowback from Arab nations it'll discredit American intelligence who claimed it was too dangerous to do. I think it'll make it more likely that the US moves the embassy but v hard to predict Trump. Maybe Putin was just pissed about the bombing (but he seems a bit too clever to be making major geopolitical decisions out of anger).

Mordy, Thursday, 6 April 2017 20:16 (seven years ago) link

All I know is that an order from Assad to drop chemicals at this point would be completely illogical and would gain him no advantages in his attempt to regain control of Syria and only jeopardize his hold on power which, for the first time in years, looks like it might be reestablished.

He's been dropping chemicals and God knows what else for years now, and getting away with it, what makes now any different?

Punnet of the Grapes (Tom D.), Thursday, 6 April 2017 20:20 (seven years ago) link

[citation needed?]

Mordy, Thursday, 6 April 2017 20:22 (seven years ago) link

no-bid contracts, here we come!

A is for (Aimless), Friday, 29 December 2017 22:53 (six years ago) link

Thread on Iran protests from yesterday

Thread: Iran’s protests--including in traditional cities like Qom and Mashhad--are a reminder of the country’s deep political, social, and above all economic frustrations https://t.co/PRT1RUTdNX

— Karim Sadjadpour (@ksadjadpour) December 29, 2017

El Tomboto, Saturday, 30 December 2017 19:54 (six years ago) link

Trump tweeting about Iran being an “oppressive regime “ after he has been selling military ware to Saudi Arabia and sucking up to China, Philippines, and Russia is well typical. Plus Trumpies tweeting that CNN is ignoring the protests is wrong . If Glen Greenwald tweets about Iran it will probably just be a mention of the CIA’s history in Iran.

curmudgeon, Saturday, 30 December 2017 20:52 (six years ago) link

Any 2018 thread name ideas?

curmudgeon, Thursday, 4 January 2018 03:55 (six years ago) link

MENA, MENA, Tekel, Parsin 2018

Mordy, Thursday, 4 January 2018 03:57 (six years ago) link

Confess that I had to google that, but it works

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Belshazzar%27s_feast

curmudgeon, Friday, 5 January 2018 20:23 (six years ago) link

Seems legit.

Wag1 Shree Rajneesh (ShariVari), Friday, 5 January 2018 20:27 (six years ago) link

I took Mordy's suggestion and started a 2018 thread

MENA, MENA, Tekel, Parsin (Middle East, North Africa & other Geopolitical Hotspots) 2018

curmudgeon, Wednesday, 17 January 2018 06:04 (six years ago) link


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