Dogs & Cats, Living Together: TV's Legion

i'm ok with the overacting cause the guy's reacting to stuff that's in his head, plus it'll all kinda hyperreal/surreal - but yeah, i hope he starts getting a little more real and honest with his performance

I don't know that 'honest' is a good goal for a performance basically ever, but particularly here, which (comic nerdery) is closer to a Shade the Changing Man TV show than anything else.

I found the interrogator (Hamish Linklater, no relation) to be incredibly watchable, hope to see more of him. Which may mean that I need to see more Fargo?

(not to mention that would mean that all the gov ppl were also in his head otherwise how'd he get out of there.)

The idea I guess would be that he has all these powers himself but he is along the road to being convinced that he's sane, so he has to imagine people who can use them.

I don't understand accusations of overacting in a show that exists in a state of heightened reality the way this one did in the pilot. Like, nothing that was going on was particularly "realistic" so I don't see how Stevens' performance crossed any lines that, for example, Plaza's didn't also cross.

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now picturing a mumblecore version of Legion & i already hate it

the last season of 'girls' reveals all of the titular women were actually in one character's head

lol

I dunno, to me it feels like Plaza's tuned into her own inner frequency. Stevens often seems like he's doing "hey look at me being crazy", little hyperactive face twitchy stuff a la Brad Pitt in 12 Monkeys. Maybe I just like Plaza's "don't give a fuck" crazy better and that's all there is to it. To be fair, in the big moments where Stevens needed to be super locked-in w/Syd he abandons the hyper-alert sparrow act mostly.

that's because being both people in a conversation is hard work

Heh

Lenny was apparently written as a middle-aged man until the show-runner met Plaza - she insisted on keeping the lines as was - which does explain her enthusiasm for the idea of having tits.

So awesome!

first ep really reminded me of brit series Utopia

(I liked it!)

This show is great, Rachel Keller is completely entrancing.

I think it's fairly clear that the dude is mentally ill in some way, even if Jean Smart insists that his delusions are just a manifestation of his ability.

feel like even if he isn't suffering from a genetic neurological condition years and years of dealing w/ his powers/hearing voices would be enough to do longterm traumatic damage

This show is great, Rachel Keller is completely entrancing.

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fuck... it literally never occured to me that i wasnt watching rachel blanchard

second episode was super creepy

man I am loving this

just finished ep 1. just now realizing how funny it is that only when charred skeletons started falling into the swimming pool did my wife say "that was weird."

lol

http://www.mymbuzz.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2017/02/Legion-1.02-Chpater-2-vapour.png

that children's book

right?!

at first i thought it was maurice sendak's pierre but it was much darker

having the faceless shadow-dad makes it way creepier

feel like they're eventually going to get over this syd no-touching thing by having telepathy mind sex

yeah i think so too, it's got a short shelf life otherwise lol

hoping she meets someone else whose with a superpower that lets her fuck that person instead, just to drive the hysteria level up

sound design in this is so great, the way they so clearly layer voices to whispered, tinny, etc

Yes, I've been meaning to say that too. Dan Stevens' tic-acting is wearing incredibly thin for me but the approach to sound design is really something else. I don't think I've ever seen a TV show be so adventurous (I guess the "going crazy" aspect gives them this license)

The whole MRI business was about to give me a goddamn heart attack. Hey Bill Irwin - love your work but your character needs to get fired I think

yeah that MRi was terrifying noooope no thanks

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#vapefrog

Just caught up with the first 2 eps. Love this. BF made the observation the story moves in a rather Slaughterhouse Five way which I thought was a good point (if not perhaps on purpose).

I liked Dan's ticcy schizoid mannerisms!

How close to the comic/Xmen universe is this hewing?

At the moment:

. David Haller is a character in the X-Men comics
. They say the word 'mutant'
. Er...
. That's it

All the other characters in the show appear to have been invented for it (though what is reality, etc)

Right. So, the thing that immediately spoils this guys backstory if you look him up on wiki (ie who his parents are) is not going to be relevant or a thing here? I guess no one knows now that I type that out.

yeah, doubt it's a thing, but who knows?

It occurs to me they did have that memory scene where he couldnt see his dads face...

well now you have to know the spoiler that in the comics he never met his bio-dad until he was a teen and was raised by a stepdad

AH! ok that makes sense. Yeah I dont know this comic's story at all tbh. I dont suppose that will matter?

not a bit

a dude on the nerdist website did a recap on legion's comicbook backstory & i was like O_o O_O whuuuuuut & then I had a stroke

I am assuming that the reason this is a mutant story is that it was an easy way to get it made. But then I never watched Fargo - is that tightly tied to the film, or just an excuse to set a story in an insular town?

it is very tangentially related to the film--there are some archetype characters that are similar to major characters in the film (and one major piece of connective tissue), but it tells its own story. Season 2 has nothing to do with the film, as far as I can remember.

I feel like Legion's attitude toward its source material is probably similar to Fargo's. Wolverine's not gonna show up, ya know?

OR IS HE

i was trying to think what x-men cameos would be tonally appropriate w/ the show. xavier maybe?

I'm sorry, he's "Logan" now

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Fargo is so good. It has virtually nothing to do with the film.

That said, I'm afraid to start this. Is it still good after three episodes? (Haven't read thread yet).

if i dropped out on this midway thru last season can i jump back in this season and not be totally lost? i love zouks and i'd give this show (a show i liked a lot in the first season) another shot to watch him in it.

Zouks is only in episode 6, which is totally self-Fontaine’s, so you could always just watch that

*self-contained, not self-Fontaine’s,

I loved this season! The ending was surprisingly sweet, and some of the visuals were really beautiful: The stop-motion bits, the creepy-as-fuck time demons. I loved the ending for the poor toothless time-traveler, and I felt like the more out-there stuff was more purposeful than in season 2. I plan to re-watch this once they put it out in HDR.

I need to rewatch it in a more focused manner but the good episodes were up with the best of the series and I feel like the ending was as good as we could get.

It didn’t quite hit it on the nose but as a tale of people who were damaged, as everyone is, it became a tale of extraordinary people striving for a better conclusion

We finally got around to finishing this, watched most of the last 6-7 episodes over a week or so. I think I was a little let down by the way that some of season 2 seemed to be cut up into digression episodes - though that said, the one of these in season 3 was excellent - the promise of Jermaine rap battle led us onwards, and by that time we were hooked.

I did like the use of Pink Floyd's 'Mother' to indicate this is a very cliche son-mother thing, it happens.

There's a lot of actors I'll be looking out for because of this - Rachel Keller, Amber Midthunder, Bill Irwin (though holy shit, I just found out the's the other guy who isn't Robin Williams in the "Don't Worry, Be Happy" video), I don't think I'd even seen Dan Stevens before - but man, Hamish Linklater is definitely the catch.

(Should I watch The New Adventures of Old Christine?)

Recently finished season 2 after initially bailing awhile ago, and this show finally clicked for me (and my partner), although I apparently have the exact opposite opinion of most people in this thread. Season 1 had too much dream logic and pointless psychedelia and I can't remember many details, but season 2 felt way more focused and purposeful (except for that whole thing with the black oily idea monster that crawled inside people's heads, although that worked thematically). My partner actually joined in after I was a few episodes into it and ended up rewatching almost the whole season, and a lot of little things in the early season really hold up once you know where it's headed.

Just started season 3 and I'll allow them one music video/musical scene per season, there better not be any more, lol. Also a little skeptical of Farouk just being one of the team now, but maybe they have plans to contain him once David is dead/captured, and I assume he also still wants to kill all non-mutants after that gets taken care of.

Just started season 3 and I'll allow them one music video/musical scene per season, there better not be any more, lol

*noah hawley nervously taps feet and looks around*

Haha. Also, sorry but Rachel Keller is often kind of bad in this?

the character is very flat, but imo that’s kind of what she’s given to work with

True, she has all the worst lines, but she doesn't do much with them compared to everyone else and it sticks out imo (at least in s2).

still love her performance in season 1