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he's v handsome, I like him

Flamenco Drop (VegemiteGrrl), Sunday, 12 February 2017 00:53 (seven years ago) link

I kept trying to figure out how many of the ppl were real and who was in his head

Flamenco Drop (VegemiteGrrl), Sunday, 12 February 2017 00:54 (seven years ago) link

gave myself a headache pretty quick haha

Flamenco Drop (VegemiteGrrl), Sunday, 12 February 2017 00:54 (seven years ago) link

aubrey plaza: was real, now in head
silent secret service escort team: head
syd: head

everyone else: tbd

mh šŸ˜, Sunday, 12 February 2017 01:01 (seven years ago) link

he's v handsome, I like him

haha char said the exact same thing and then bemoaned the fact that he was dead + would not be appearing on future episodes

Mordy, Sunday, 12 February 2017 01:01 (seven years ago) link

agree

;_;

Flamenco Drop (VegemiteGrrl), Sunday, 12 February 2017 01:02 (seven years ago) link

he was dead + would not be appearing on future episodes

These two things aren't definitely mutually exclusive though, right?

The high concept, the swimming pool and the presence of a skinny, twitchy English actor all made me think of Sherlock, which made me worry that this show will become crap sooner rather than later. I hope it doesn't. I really liked the first episode.

trishyb, Sunday, 12 February 2017 01:13 (seven years ago) link

ime a stylish director can keep an even quickly tired premise watchable for long past its expiration date cf most of bryan fuller's career (looking at imdb btw i didn't realize he was running american gods?? i'm suddenly interested in a show whose premise i was sure i was uninterested in.)

Mordy, Sunday, 12 February 2017 01:21 (seven years ago) link

american god is dope, looking forward to the series

Flamenco Drop (VegemiteGrrl), Sunday, 12 February 2017 01:33 (seven years ago) link

*s

Flamenco Drop (VegemiteGrrl), Sunday, 12 February 2017 01:33 (seven years ago) link

this worked p well as an extended music video, looking forward to more

I Am In Atlanta And Thug Is Young (imago), Sunday, 12 February 2017 02:50 (seven years ago) link

not totally sold on this yet. I like how the editing finds ways to mimic comic-book framing temporally, but I hated the beyond-stereotypical mental ward and the pretty much 100% CGI'd action (which was also an irritant on Fargo). also the "which characters are in his heeeeaaadddd maaaan" angle is fucking annoying and I hope they do away with it as quickly as possible

a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Sunday, 12 February 2017 03:08 (seven years ago) link

i liked the memory hijacking

Mordy, Sunday, 12 February 2017 03:09 (seven years ago) link

aubrey plaza: was real, now in head
silent secret service escort team: head
syd: head

everyone else: tbd

i am on record as being extremely literal and trusting and gullible when watching TV shows and movies so maybe i'm missing something big here, but at the end when he says "are you real? is this real?" and syd says "i'm real. this is real. i love you, and i came back for you" i was like YES!!! and i'm gonna be pretty pissed if i was wrong to feel that way

illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 14 February 2017 10:37 (seven years ago) link

yeah i think that breakdown is wrong. aubrey was real, now in head, yes. but it is a show about a mutant w/ powers to go along w/ his other problems. there isn't much of a show if silent secret service escort team and syd are in his head. (not to mention that would mean that all the gov ppl were also in his head otherwise how'd he get out of there.)

Mordy, Tuesday, 14 February 2017 13:33 (seven years ago) link

I had a cold last week and I am willing to suspend all ideas until I rewatch the show, which I can't seem to remember at all this morning

mh šŸ˜, Tuesday, 14 February 2017 14:49 (seven years ago) link

like did each of the secret service-esque people use a mutant power or was that something I dreamt happened after watching the show and taking cold meds

mh šŸ˜, Tuesday, 14 February 2017 14:50 (seven years ago) link

you mean at the end? yeah they were force-throwing baddies left and right, popping them right over the tree line toward the horizon with a jerk of their elbows

illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 14 February 2017 15:11 (seven years ago) link

whew, I was ready to chalk that scene up to the nyquil

mh šŸ˜, Tuesday, 14 February 2017 15:14 (seven years ago) link

Dan Stevens overacts like crazy in this show. And the interrogator in brown is kind of unwatchable, not sure why. I love Fargo but am struggling to see the same kind of subtlety and intelligence here

calstars, Tuesday, 14 February 2017 15:21 (seven years ago) link

i'm ok with the overacting cause the guy's reacting to stuff that's in his head, plus it'll all kinda hyperreal/surreal - but yeah, i hope he starts getting a little more real and honest with his performance

illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 14 February 2017 15:22 (seven years ago) link

I don't know that 'honest' is a good goal for a performance basically ever, but particularly here, which (comic nerdery) is closer to a Shade the Changing Man TV show than anything else.

I found the interrogator (Hamish Linklater, no relation) to be incredibly watchable, hope to see more of him. Which may mean that I need to see more Fargo?

(not to mention that would mean that all the gov ppl were also in his head otherwise how'd he get out of there.)

The idea I guess would be that he has all these powers himself but he is along the road to being convinced that he's sane, so he has to imagine people who can use them.

Andrew Farrell, Tuesday, 14 February 2017 16:47 (seven years ago) link

I don't understand accusations of overacting in a show that exists in a state of heightened reality the way this one did in the pilot. Like, nothing that was going on was particularly "realistic" so I don't see how Stevens' performance crossed any lines that, for example, Plaza's didn't also cross.

ornate orchestral arrangements (DJP), Tuesday, 14 February 2017 16:51 (seven years ago) link

otm

Flamenco Drop (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 14 February 2017 18:22 (seven years ago) link

now picturing a mumblecore version of Legion & i already hate it

Flamenco Drop (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 14 February 2017 18:23 (seven years ago) link

the last season of 'girls' reveals all of the titular women were actually in one character's head

mh šŸ˜, Tuesday, 14 February 2017 19:19 (seven years ago) link

lol

Flamenco Drop (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 14 February 2017 19:23 (seven years ago) link

I dunno, to me it feels like Plaza's tuned into her own inner frequency. Stevens often seems like he's doing "hey look at me being crazy", little hyperactive face twitchy stuff a la Brad Pitt in 12 Monkeys. Maybe I just like Plaza's "don't give a fuck" crazy better and that's all there is to it. To be fair, in the big moments where Stevens needed to be super locked-in w/Syd he abandons the hyper-alert sparrow act mostly.

illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 14 February 2017 23:27 (seven years ago) link

that's because being both people in a conversation is hard work

mh šŸ˜, Tuesday, 14 February 2017 23:42 (seven years ago) link

Heh

illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 14 February 2017 23:56 (seven years ago) link

Lenny was apparently written as a middle-aged man until the show-runner met Plaza - she insisted on keeping the lines as was - which does explain her enthusiasm for the idea of having tits.

Andrew Farrell, Wednesday, 15 February 2017 01:06 (seven years ago) link

So awesome!

illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 15 February 2017 07:56 (seven years ago) link

first ep really reminded me of brit series Utopia

sktsh, Thursday, 16 February 2017 20:37 (seven years ago) link

(I liked it!)

sktsh, Thursday, 16 February 2017 20:37 (seven years ago) link

This show is great, Rachel Keller is completely entrancing.

I think it's fairly clear that the dude is mentally ill in some way, even if Jean Smart insists that his delusions are just a manifestation of his ability.

ridiculous perm ban decision (voodoo chili), Thursday, 16 February 2017 20:57 (seven years ago) link

feel like even if he isn't suffering from a genetic neurological condition years and years of dealing w/ his powers/hearing voices would be enough to do longterm traumatic damage

Mordy, Thursday, 16 February 2017 20:58 (seven years ago) link

This show is great, Rachel Keller is completely entrancing.

ā€• ridiculous perm ban decision (voodoo chili), Thursday, 16 February 2017 20:57 Bookmark

fuck... it literally never occured to me that i wasnt watching rachel blanchard

r|t|c, Thursday, 16 February 2017 21:42 (seven years ago) link

second episode was super creepy

Mordy, Sunday, 19 February 2017 04:18 (seven years ago) link

man I am loving this

Flamenco Drop (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 20 February 2017 04:29 (seven years ago) link

just finished ep 1. just now realizing how funny it is that only when charred skeletons started falling into the swimming pool did my wife say "that was weird."

El Tomboto, Monday, 20 February 2017 04:38 (seven years ago) link

lol

Flamenco Drop (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 20 February 2017 04:41 (seven years ago) link

that children's book

Mordy, Monday, 20 February 2017 05:30 (seven years ago) link

right?!

Flamenco Drop (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 20 February 2017 05:34 (seven years ago) link

at first i thought it was maurice sendak's pierre but it was much darker

Mordy, Monday, 20 February 2017 05:35 (seven years ago) link

having the faceless shadow-dad makes it way creepier

Flamenco Drop (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 20 February 2017 05:35 (seven years ago) link

feel like they're eventually going to get over this syd no-touching thing by having telepathy mind sex

Mordy, Monday, 20 February 2017 05:36 (seven years ago) link

yeah i think so too, it's got a short shelf life otherwise lol

Flamenco Drop (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 20 February 2017 05:42 (seven years ago) link

hoping she meets someone else whose with a superpower that lets her fuck that person instead, just to drive the hysteria level up

a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Monday, 20 February 2017 05:46 (seven years ago) link

sound design in this is so great, the way they so clearly layer voices to whispered, tinny, etc

Flamenco Drop (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 20 February 2017 05:47 (seven years ago) link

But if you liked Twin Peaks, then this will probably feel like CSI Miami to you, so ymmv.

DJI, Thursday, 14 June 2018 22:39 (five years ago) link

Season was definitely a mixed bag but the highs were still very high

groovypanda, Friday, 15 June 2018 06:57 (five years ago) link

i lost interest halfway through because it felt overexplained ĀÆ\_(惄)_/ĀÆ

the ghost of tom, choad (thomp), Monday, 18 June 2018 17:00 (five years ago) link

catching up

so would people say noah hawley has issues with women or

the ghost of tom, choad (thomp), Saturday, 30 June 2018 14:13 (five years ago) link

hell of a finale

three people played by the same actor yelling at each other to express mental illness is kinda .. not something to be doing in 2018 though

the ghost of tom, choad (thomp), Sunday, 1 July 2018 15:07 (five years ago) link

one should have been a dwarf obv

Larry Elleison (rogermexico.), Sunday, 1 July 2018 15:29 (five years ago) link

two weeks pass...

I liked the showcase episodes a lot, I'm happy that the next season will presumably have a lot of Aubrey Plaza.

This show needs a voice-of-the-viewer character SO BAD, to just shake all these weirdos and be like "WTF IS HAPPENING DUDE?!"

We never see ANY normal people (or I guess if we do, they are just cannon-fodder), only this collection of weirdos, so that's also hard to relate to.

Hah, we were actually laughing about how much use they got out of Dan Stevens' "WTF IS HAPPENING" expression, apart from the showcase for Normal Person Amy Haller, which was pretty clearly the "Dan would also like to stretch his acting chops" episode.

We took in the last three in one sitting yesterday, partly because we were near the end and partly because we kept having to remember what happened before.

The end is fucked up in, eh, more than one way.

Andrew Farrell, Monday, 16 July 2018 13:16 (five years ago) link

seven months pass...

Third and final season coming in June

groovypanda, Wednesday, 13 March 2019 11:49 (five years ago) link

ooooh

Andrew Farrell, Wednesday, 13 March 2019 11:53 (five years ago) link

two months pass...

Thereā€™s no time like the present. Or the past. Or the future. The final season of #LegionFX premieres Mon. Jun. 24 pic.twitter.com/TEH5jfAT0d

— Legion (@LegionFX) May 7, 2019

groovypanda, Sunday, 19 May 2019 10:41 (four years ago) link

Damn, I completely dropped off the train on this show right on start of S2. And I was heavily into it.

Stoop Crone (Trayce), Monday, 20 May 2019 04:24 (four years ago) link

yeah i fell off too! :/

Squeaky Fromage (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 20 May 2019 04:57 (four years ago) link

S2 was not as satisfying as S1, but Iā€™m ready to give S3 a shot.

plus Preacherā€™s back in June too

Larry Elleison (rogermexico.), Monday, 20 May 2019 05:51 (four years ago) link

ooh yay :D

Squeaky Fromage (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 20 May 2019 06:00 (four years ago) link

I remember really enjoying an awful lot of Season 2, but have no memory whatsoever of what happened in the end.

Andrew Farrell, Wednesday, 22 May 2019 15:07 (four years ago) link

David broke bad

groovypanda, Wednesday, 22 May 2019 18:04 (four years ago) link

two months pass...

Those whoā€™ve watched the show and read the comics: can someone explain how davidā€™s multiple personalities relate to his powers. I know that in the comics, his power is to absorb abilities as personalities, but that doesnā€™t seem to be the case in the show. Yet his increasing instability seems to be directly related to his split personality in the show?

What gives???

jakey mo collier (voodoo chili), Wednesday, 7 August 2019 01:31 (four years ago) link

This season has been a massive improvement btw, the fairy tale episode from last week was batshit in the best way. Makes me wish Mantzoukas was in everything.

jakey mo collier (voodoo chili), Wednesday, 7 August 2019 01:32 (four years ago) link

They havenā€™t really delved into the personalities bit in the show, although theyā€™re setting that up to be the drop in the finale, maybe?

In the comics, he originally had multiple distinct personalities (although only three iirc, and a couple were based on actual people heā€™d absorbed during a bombing) that each had a different power, and didnā€™t coexist in the real world, although they interacted in the astral plane. This evolved over the years ā€” heā€™s had moments of clarity where he could command a multitude of powers, and also periods where there was a mental prison/hotel of sorts where he could interact with characters with different powers and bring them to the forefront or ā€œstealā€ their powers for use.

Iā€™m kind of surprised by how little has been explained in this season and the finale is either going to give us a piecemeal explanation and some resolution, or a fuller explanation and less total conclusion, imo

For instance, what is up with those time wraith things?

untuned mass damper (mh), Wednesday, 7 August 2019 01:45 (four years ago) link

I think the time demons were always lurking in that hallway, waiting for someone to destabilize the timeline enough to set them free

jakey mo collier (voodoo chili), Wednesday, 7 August 2019 01:59 (four years ago) link

if i dropped out on this midway thru last season can i jump back in this season and not be totally lost? i love zouks and i'd give this show (a show i liked a lot in the first season) another shot to watch him in it.

Mordy, Wednesday, 7 August 2019 04:53 (four years ago) link

Zouks is only in episode 6, which is totally self-Fontaineā€™s, so you could always just watch that

jakey mo collier (voodoo chili), Wednesday, 7 August 2019 12:39 (four years ago) link

*self-contained, not self-Fontaineā€™s,

jakey mo collier (voodoo chili), Wednesday, 7 August 2019 12:40 (four years ago) link

three weeks pass...

I loved this season! The ending was surprisingly sweet, and some of the visuals were really beautiful: The stop-motion bits, the creepy-as-fuck time demons. I loved the ending for the poor toothless time-traveler, and I felt like the more out-there stuff was more purposeful than in season 2. I plan to re-watch this once they put it out in HDR.

DJI, Wednesday, 28 August 2019 20:09 (four years ago) link

I need to rewatch it in a more focused manner but the good episodes were up with the best of the series and I feel like the ending was as good as we could get.

It didnā€™t quite hit it on the nose but as a tale of people who were damaged, as everyone is, it became a tale of extraordinary people striving for a better conclusion

untuned mass damper (mh), Thursday, 29 August 2019 01:03 (four years ago) link

eight months pass...

We finally got around to finishing this, watched most of the last 6-7 episodes over a week or so. I think I was a little let down by the way that some of season 2 seemed to be cut up into digression episodes - though that said, the one of these in season 3 was excellent - the promise of Jermaine rap battle led us onwards, and by that time we were hooked.

I did like the use of Pink Floyd's 'Mother' to indicate this is a very cliche son-mother thing, it happens.

There's a lot of actors I'll be looking out for because of this - Rachel Keller, Amber Midthunder, Bill Irwin (though holy shit, I just found out the's the other guy who isn't Robin Williams in the "Don't Worry, Be Happy" video), I don't think I'd even seen Dan Stevens before - but man, Hamish Linklater is definitely the catch.

(Should I watch The New Adventures of Old Christine?)

Andrew Farrell, Sunday, 3 May 2020 21:05 (three years ago) link

three years pass...

Recently finished season 2 after initially bailing awhile ago, and this show finally clicked for me (and my partner), although I apparently have the exact opposite opinion of most people in this thread. Season 1 had too much dream logic and pointless psychedelia and I can't remember many details, but season 2 felt way more focused and purposeful (except for that whole thing with the black oily idea monster that crawled inside people's heads, although that worked thematically). My partner actually joined in after I was a few episodes into it and ended up rewatching almost the whole season, and a lot of little things in the early season really hold up once you know where it's headed.

Just started season 3 and I'll allow them one music video/musical scene per season, there better not be any more, lol. Also a little skeptical of Farouk just being one of the team now, but maybe they have plans to contain him once David is dead/captured, and I assume he also still wants to kill all non-mutants after that gets taken care of.

50 Favorite Jordans (Jordan), Monday, 28 August 2023 18:27 (seven months ago) link

Just started season 3 and I'll allow them one music video/musical scene per season, there better not be any more, lol

*noah hawley nervously taps feet and looks around*

is he disgruntled adrian? (voodoo chili), Monday, 28 August 2023 18:56 (seven months ago) link

Haha. Also, sorry but Rachel Keller is often kind of bad in this?

50 Favorite Jordans (Jordan), Monday, 28 August 2023 19:03 (seven months ago) link

the character is very flat, but imo thatā€™s kind of what sheā€™s given to work with

mh, Monday, 28 August 2023 19:37 (seven months ago) link

True, she has all the worst lines, but she doesn't do much with them compared to everyone else and it sticks out imo (at least in s2).

50 Favorite Jordans (Jordan), Monday, 28 August 2023 20:35 (seven months ago) link

still love her performance in season 1

is he disgruntled adrian? (voodoo chili), Monday, 28 August 2023 23:18 (seven months ago) link


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