rolling emo/pop-punk/dogs on skateboards 2017

remember when ultragrrl (i think that was her name?) called three cheers for sweet revenge this generation's nevermind

See I dunno if it's just the influence of the college radio circles I ran with at the time or what, and honestly no offense intended, but My Chemical Romance was widely regarded as garbage by the emo "cognoscenti" I associated with when they came out.

This was v much the perception in my friend circle at the time, I only learned to love them and FOB thru ILX evangelism (esp brad's) over the least few years

i didn't like FOB until infinity on high and continue to find those earlier albums pretty boring + derivative - i think they really came into their sound around then and it has only been excellent stuff since then. MCR otoh was great from the get-go and if anything i think they kinda lost the plot the more proggy-emo they got. speaking of proggy-emo i'm unapologetically a coheed & cambria fan in particularly second stage turbine and in keeping secrets

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second stage was a huge record for me bc it was kind of a "eureka" moment with regard to the continuity of emo bc parts of it sound like sunny day real estate

besides ILX I think Thursday's A City by the Light Divided was what clued me in to the fact that there was a whole world of stuff I'd previously dismissed, and tbh I don't think I'd have noticed it except for the fact that it crossed over to the indie press due to (I guess) Fridmann's involvement

anyway I will save my most controversial emo recommendation for the noms thread

i remember wanting that record to cross over more than it did. thursday were always kinda acceptable to like though, all those godspeed! you black emperor references

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save all this talk for the poll!

this is the most conversational this thread has ever been and i'm enjoying it so much!

tru sorry

ahaha it's ok, i also sorta agree

Did anybody listen to One For The Team back in the day? This is one of my fav pop-punk records of the last decade and I've been coming back to it a ton the last few months.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qmfq_PwyvPo

i have no idea what this record is! i'm so excited!

oh wow yeah this is great. thank u evan

Yeah it's an old, dear friend of mine. Very much a product of its time, kind of a DIY stab at Tegan & Sara x 2009 Warped Tour x Silversun Pickups-era alt-rock thing, but the songs cut so deep and some of these tracks are monsters

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wLPxQsExomo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ixNeF_9tBQI

Tegan & Sara x 2009 Warped Tour x Silversun Pickups-era alt-rock thing

oh no! it's... my Aesthetic

will check it out

been on a little silversun pickups kick for a bit now

same, mostly in anticipation of their tour with 3eb

lol yeah, between Brand New Eyes and Sainthood and Romance is Boring and this record, this was an era that catered to me to almost ridiculous extremes.

(I was also seeing 3EB live a ton around that time, too, mostly by coincidence)

same, mostly in anticipation of their tour with 3eb

― the raindrops and drop tops of lived, earned experience (BradNelson), Friday, February 10, 2017 1:41 PM (two minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

this is good. i will partake.

they're playing the s/t all the way through, it's gonna rule, can't wait to graduate

Stephan Jenkins still rocks a hoodie very well. I interviewed him years ago and he described 3eb as "slammingly misunderstood," and that wording always stuck with me for some reason

lmao

y'know even though the years have proven that Tim Kasher is basically Diet Greg Dulli I still have a huge soft spot for the run from Semantics of Song to The Ugly Organ (and the first three Good Life albums)

me2

(relistening to Young Simon Faves in what will be a long preparation for the poll)

"helped" by the fact that Domestica accurately predicted the eventual vibe of my first live-in relationship

y'know even though the years have proven that Tim Kasher is basically Diet Greg Dulli I still have a huge soft spot for the run from Semantics of Song to The Ugly Organ (and the first three Good Life albums)

yeah that exactly the amount of cursive/good life i like. the few songs i've heard from his new solo record sounded pretty good in an early good life way

between Brand New Eyes and Sainthood and Romance is Boring

Taking this down as evidence for my RiB is emo stand.

also does anyone remember the Nintendo Fusion Tour?
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-08UCO2Zec8M/TuKaQd3SxKI/AAAAAAAAAPE/oc3E4BTMyR0/s1600/donkeykonga.jpg

Those Ugly Organ B-sides and those EPs they recorded while Greta was in the band are all essential, too. Every thing Kasher did got wildly uneven after that, but Mama, I'm Swollen is wayyyyy underrated. Some of his best songs are on that one.

Los Campesinos count as emo for sure (I have never liked 'em tho)

first three lc records are v emo in their dna

Very happy to be finding no resistance to this.

Romance is Boring has some of my favorite lyrics of any record from that era. And yeah, super emo:

Please just let me be the one to keep track
Of the freckles and the moles on your back

for some reason that makes me wonder if Arab Strap should be eligible

lol i'm open to the argument

naaaaaah

Very happy to be finding no resistance to this.

― devvvine, Friday, February 10, 2017 2:07 PM (four minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

well i'm gonna insist on johnny foreigner being eligible so it'd be weird for me to draw a line

let's not forget that Conor Oberst guested on Hug and Pint

I dunno they don't feel like a bridge too far to me (tho, like, B&S obviously are) but I'm not gonna die on that hill

well i'm gonna insist on johnny foreigner being eligible so it'd be weird for me to draw a line

― the raindrops and drop tops of lived, earned experience (BradNelson), Friday, February 10, 2017 9:12 PM (three minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

with you there, all in for 'salt, peppa and spindarella'

at the time of lifted i for sure thought of bright eyes as emo but in hindsight for some reason it feels more indie singer-songwriter'y? obv this has something to do w/ the trajectory his career took since then but lifted seems of a piece w/ the rest of his catalog - like maybe he was never emo it was like one of those things where something presents as X but it turns out it was coincidental and actually it turned out to be Y all along.

yeah agree. interested to see how you end up framing this whole thing with which inclusions/exclusions. good luck

I would say all Oberst things count as emo until you hit, say, Cassadaga.

(both Desaparecidos records are damn near essential pop-punk, also)

imo bright eyes doesn't count, desaparecidos does (the first is as straight up of an emo record as you can get in its design), but i won't fight anyone over it

How do people feel about 'The Blood, The Body, The Machine'?

nah

thermals have more in common with like the breeders than they do emo