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The guy couldn't very well assume Prince would turn in tracks worthy of Vanilla Ice or Jon Secada without hearing them first.

Chris L, Friday, 10 February 2017 16:31 (seven years ago) link

there is exactly one prince song on spotify - "stare" -- it's pretty good!

http://consequenceofsound.net/2015/07/prince-premieres-new-single-stare-listen/

blonde redheads have more fun (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 10 February 2017 16:42 (seven years ago) link

Wonderful interview with Susan Rogers in Tape Op I haven't seen mentioned here - you may need a (free) registration to see it all:
http://tapeop.com/interviews/117/susan-rogers/

What kind of preparation did he do to do his vocals?

He just sang them. It's not like he did any vocal comps. The way he worked, he would program the drum machine. A lot of the drumming you hear, like the double kicks, the tom fills, and everything, he's playing those with his fingers. There'd be a one or two bar loop on the Linn LM-1. So there's this loop; he played all the fills on "Take Me with U," the toms, and the double kick on "Darling Nikki" first. He had the entire arrangement in his head as tape was rolling, and he played the whole song in his head. Then the basic keyboard parts would go on. Then bass, if there was bass, or bass synths. We'd stop, I would route the vocal for him, put a piece of white tape on the patch cord to show him where it was, arm the tape machine, put the track on input, and then leave the room so he could do the vocals all by himself. He didn't want anybody there. He'd do the lead vocal himself, do the backing vocals, and then I'd come back in and we'd lay down the rest of the instruments. While he was playing, I could be dialing in sounds, so the mix was pretty much ready to go. We worked with the girls, Wendy and Lisa, Jill Jones, or Susannah (Melvoin) – if we're going to do background vocals. Maybe we'd add Eric Leeds, with horns. I'd press "record" on the 2-track, we'd print a mix, go to bed, and then four hours later we'd start all over again. That's how he worked, every day. Making music was Prince's way of being in the world. If he was awake, we were making music. If we weren't on tour, he was recording in the studio constantly. Every day, even on the movie set. We were at home in Minneapolis, during the Purple Rain filming, just so he could come home and record. During (the filming of) Under the Cherry Moon, I had the Advision Studios mobile truck from London in the south of France. When they were taking their lunch break he could come into the truck, work for two hours, record a bunch of tracks; then he could go back to the set and I would be mixing and editing. He had to be making music. I'll tell you what a typical day was like on tour. Prince would soundcheck from 2 p.m. until 6 p.m., just for fun! Just to play new songs, and to rehearse with the band. He wasn't checking the sound; he just wanted to play Prince would hit the stage again at 8:30, play to 11 or 11:30, come off the stage, get in the van, go to the hotel, shower, change clothes, and then do one of two things: either go play an after party and take the stage at a little club at 1 a.m. I had a second truck loaded up with a second set of gear, so we'd come off stage and either go to a club, set up another stage, and play this after party until 5 or 6 in the morning. Or I would have booked a studio in advance, and we'd go to the studio and record all night. We'd get the tapes, get on the plane, and sleep on the plane; or get on the bus and go to the next city, and do it again. If he was awake, he wanted an instrument in his hand. That's how he lived. He was on fire.

attention vampire (MatthewK), Saturday, 11 February 2017 21:43 (seven years ago) link

yeah that Susan Rogers interview is fantastic all the way through (and long).

change display name (Jordan), Saturday, 11 February 2017 21:46 (seven years ago) link

A big Spotify playlist gone up but the search window link to take you direct to his music is missing, fucks sake guys, priorities...!

MaresNest, Sunday, 12 February 2017 19:02 (seven years ago) link

Everything they had before is now back as far as I can tell.

nashwan, Sunday, 12 February 2017 19:23 (seven years ago) link

Seems to be now, Lovesexy is one big file though, wonder how that happened?

MaresNest, Sunday, 12 February 2017 19:24 (seven years ago) link

Wasn't it sequenced as one long track on the original CD release?

one way street, Sunday, 12 February 2017 19:28 (seven years ago) link

Yeah it's always been on Spotify as one track I think.

nashwan, Sunday, 12 February 2017 19:30 (seven years ago) link

yeah man how dare u skip 2 alphabet st

niels, Sunday, 12 February 2017 19:35 (seven years ago) link

Lovesexy works best when listened to in full. I can completely understand why Prince did that.

Working night & day, I tried to stay awake... (Turrican), Sunday, 12 February 2017 19:49 (seven years ago) link

It's still irritating tho. I remember reading somewhere there is a later Japanese CD or something that separates the songs, but a while ago I bought a fairly recent Japanese reissue of it, and it's still just one big track on the CD.

Tuomas, Sunday, 12 February 2017 20:17 (seven years ago) link

ironically, it was sequenced conventionally, as individual tracks, in the format he presumably would have preferred you to have, vinyl.

fact checking cuz, Sunday, 12 February 2017 21:32 (seven years ago) link

"The album is designed to be heard in the context of a continuous sequence: LP pressings split the album in two side-long tracks, without visual bands to indicate individual songs. Similarly, early CD copies of Lovesexy have the entire album in sequence as a single track, though some later editions have it as nine separate tracks."

yeah no shit isn't like almost every fucking album?

Fluffy Saint-Bernard (Stevie D(eux)), Sunday, 12 February 2017 21:37 (seven years ago) link

without visual bands to indicate individual songs

my vinyl is in storage on the other side of the country but i have a distinct memory of it being rather easy to see the beginnings and ends of the tracks on lovesexy, same as on, yeah, no shit, almost every fucking album. is my memory faulty? do i need fact checking?

fact checking cuz, Sunday, 12 February 2017 21:48 (seven years ago) link

some later editions have it as nine separate tracks

According to Discogs, the only Lovesexy CD that was ever split into individual tracks was a promo version that was sent to radio. Somebody's selling one for $260.

Don Van Gorp, midwest regional VP, marketing (誤訳侮辱), Sunday, 12 February 2017 22:02 (seven years ago) link

yeah my copy of Lovesexy is banded

flappy bird, Sunday, 12 February 2017 22:11 (seven years ago) link

while you may be able to see those, actual banding has coarser grooves in the silent parts irrc, making them have that distinctive shiny/mirror look.

a Radiohead album stamping on a human face, forever (sleeve), Sunday, 12 February 2017 22:24 (seven years ago) link

My uk cd of lovesexy isn't one single track. I bought it about 10 years ago.

I am using your worlds, Sunday, 12 February 2017 22:46 (seven years ago) link

Same here (I don't have it anymore though).

Gavin, Leeds, Sunday, 12 February 2017 22:51 (seven years ago) link

my vinyl is in storage on the other side of the country but i have a distinct memory of it being rather easy to see the beginnings and ends of the tracks on lovesexy, same as on, yeah, no shit, almost every fucking album. is my memory faulty? do i need fact checking?

My Lovesexy is banded.

Dysphagia Nutrition Solutions (stevie), Monday, 13 February 2017 08:05 (seven years ago) link

Here's the 9 track version that was widespread in the UK

https://www.discogs.com/Prince-Lovesexy/release/905464

I am using your worlds, Monday, 13 February 2017 13:35 (seven years ago) link

i used a lossless file of the one track version and applied a cuesheet someone put together to split it into tracks...

his eye is on despair-o (Jon not Jon), Monday, 13 February 2017 15:03 (seven years ago) link

I'm surprised artists don't do stuff like this more often. My copy of Spiritualized's "Laser Guided Melodies" is divided into four long tracks. Can't think of any others.

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 13 February 2017 15:13 (seven years ago) link

ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ

*breathes*

ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ

illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Monday, 13 February 2017 15:15 (seven years ago) link

listening to lovesexy now, i think i never listened to this much back in the day because of the annoying track thing

arrested development loved the shit out of this album

feels very "early 90s" even though it was '88, still ahead of his time

blonde redheads have more fun (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 13 February 2017 15:22 (seven years ago) link

anna stesia is great

blonde redheads have more fun (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 13 February 2017 15:31 (seven years ago) link

I'm surprised artists don't do stuff like this more often. My copy of Spiritualized's "Laser Guided Melodies" is divided into four long tracks. Can't think of any others.

― Josh in Chicago, maandag 13 februari 2017 15:13 (thirteen minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

GY!BE's debut album 'F♯ A♯ ∞' vinyl version has Side A ('Nervous, Sad, Poor') and Side B ('Bleak, Uncertain, Beautiful'). The cd-version has three movements called 'Dead Flag Blues', 'East Hastings' and 'Providence', each of which contain multiple parts, but aren't cued as such.

dEUS's My Sister = My Clock counts 14 (?) songs but is a one track cd.

Le Bateau Ivre, Monday, 13 February 2017 15:32 (seven years ago) link

lovesexy is a pretty fun album
but def not as good as the black album

blonde redheads have more fun (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 13 February 2017 16:06 (seven years ago) link

Nah, I def think Prince made the right idea to pull it and that he replaced it with the superior record.

Working night & day, I tried to stay awake... (Turrican), Monday, 13 February 2017 18:26 (seven years ago) link

i like lovesexy a lot more

his eye is on despair-o (Jon not Jon), Monday, 13 February 2017 21:44 (seven years ago) link

it is def better/more cohesive

Οὖτις, Monday, 13 February 2017 21:48 (seven years ago) link

and more sonically dense and weirder... The Black Album is mostly party jams apart from one or two tracks.

Working night & day, I tried to stay awake... (Turrican), Monday, 13 February 2017 22:08 (seven years ago) link

the only thing the Black Album has that Lovesexy doesn't is Bob George, which tbf would have been out of place on Lovesexy. maybe it coulda been an Alphabet Street b-side or something.

Οὖτις, Monday, 13 February 2017 22:17 (seven years ago) link

Yeah, that's the standout track on the LP by miles.

Working night & day, I tried to stay awake... (Turrican), Monday, 13 February 2017 22:35 (seven years ago) link

ain't that a bitch

removed from the rain drops and drop tops of experience (ulysses), Monday, 13 February 2017 22:44 (seven years ago) link

I'm surprised artists don't do stuff like this more often. My copy of Spiritualized's "Laser Guided Melodies" is divided into four long tracks. Can't think of any others.

― Josh in Chicago

remember cd subindexes? it's part of the redbook standard but i never had a cd player that supported it, and only one cd that did (the v/a comp "miniatures"). mostly it seemed to be used for "hidden tracks" by putting music under index 0 on a track.

anyway, stupid cd tricks. i don't miss them.

increasingly bonkers (rushomancy), Monday, 13 February 2017 22:44 (seven years ago) link

tmbg's Apollo 18 random minitracks come to mind

removed from the rain drops and drop tops of experience (ulysses), Monday, 13 February 2017 22:45 (seven years ago) link

Beastie Boys' Hello Nasty had some music in the "negative space" between tracks. I believe it was the only CD I owned that did this, kinda neat.

frogbs, Monday, 13 February 2017 22:47 (seven years ago) link

Rockhard in a Funky Place really loud in a club is better than most things on this Earth

kurt schwitterz, Monday, 13 February 2017 22:48 (seven years ago) link

Pregaps (the negative space in front of tracks) are not the same as subindexes. Back in the late 80s a friend had a CD player that showed subindexes, and I can remember just one CD that had them: Pump by Aerosmith. A few of the longer intros had a different subindex than the main song.

ArchCarrier, Tuesday, 14 February 2017 06:16 (seven years ago) link

They were often used in classical CDs

his eye is on despair-o (Jon not Jon), Tuesday, 14 February 2017 13:55 (seven years ago) link

My friend only had Aerosmith and Guns N' Roses CDs back then...

ArchCarrier, Tuesday, 14 February 2017 14:03 (seven years ago) link

Classics.

insidious assymetrical weapons (Eric H.), Tuesday, 14 February 2017 14:20 (seven years ago) link

Damn, this Lovesexy sequencing is a pain in the ass when you just want to put "Anna Stesia" or "Positivity" on a playlist

ridiculous perm ban decision (voodoo chili), Thursday, 16 February 2017 17:08 (seven years ago) link

i think the first thing i did with the first music editor i ever got was to track my cd rip of lovesexy

removed from the rain drops and drop tops of experience (ulysses), Thursday, 16 February 2017 17:30 (seven years ago) link

haha pvmic

a Radiohead album stamping on a human face, forever (sleeve), Thursday, 16 February 2017 17:33 (seven years ago) link

heh, i suppose so

removed from the rain drops and drop tops of experience (ulysses), Thursday, 16 February 2017 17:49 (seven years ago) link

i think the first thing i did with the first music editor i ever got was to track my cd rip of lovesexy

THIS

Dysphagia Nutrition Solutions (stevie), Saturday, 18 February 2017 11:35 (seven years ago) link


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