Any reason why ILM is so quiet these days?

Now we can all die.

Dumpy's Rusty Nuts has become my default answer to all bands questions these days.

they are probably better than Pavement or whoever.

Up there with Ned's Atomic Dustbin.

reminds me of..........i had one of those strange experiences recently where i put on a CD to check something out that i remember people raving about years ago and i kinda made one of those faces while it was playing like: ehhhhh, yeahhhhh, okayyyyyy.....i GET this. like a jaded jerk. and then a day later i thought....hmmm, MAYBE i'll play it one more time. heard one song that sounded better than the first time i played it. a day later i played that CD ten times in a row. and i was like WOW talk about the slow burn! it came out in 2003. an American indie rock album.

ok i had the exact same experience with the meadowlands, wow

great record

I'm not sure why that record/band is a punchline here. That album is unique and special.

Smoked beer will make your breath smell like hot dogs

sold

http://i.imgur.com/FBqKOTR.png

smoked beers are awesome

a few months ago i had this style of beer: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grodziskie, a Polish smoked wheat beer and it was really good. strange to have a smoked beer that was very light, usually they are dark

gose is an amazing style of beer but the US market has been swamped with awful versions of it

I've heard of Dumpy's Rusty Nuts as a punchline many times, but had never actually heard them, so I just checked them out on youtube.
My report: they sound exactly as you thought they would sound.

I'm not that into beer but I was in Gösel in Germany last summer and really enjoyed the gose with cinnamon and salt I drank there

Weren't they the go-to joke band of either Melody Maker or NME for about a decade?

xp

MM. Regular of the Talk Talk Talk column.

I'm not that into beer but I was in Gösel in Germany last summer and really enjoyed the gose with cinnamon and salt I drank there

I like the sound of that.

Sour beers rule

jjj turned me on to Paradox's Skully Barrel line which has varieties in it which will melt your face and others that are surprisingly quaffable.

i haven't had a good lambic in a while either. tart and/or sour is my fave thing. i like tart/crisp/acidic wine too.

gose is an amazing style of beer but the US market has been swamped with awful versions of it

― marcos, Friday, February 10, 2017 9:57 AM (thirty-four minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

i always buy microbrews for like $4 from the clearance aisle of the liquor store, which has its risks

but anyway i bought a gose beer "infused" with cactus or some shit and it tasted like puke

also i was with ez snappin and jjusten once at someone ordered a smoked beer and it tasted like an IPA that someone had put burnt piece of kingsford charcoal into

that smoked beer was so gross.

that German one linked to above is kinda the gold standard for smoked beer and i still never want one. but i can see the appeal.

How rude is it to suggest that this discussion be moved to a beer thread or the dads thread or ? I'm not trying to be rude but this is very similar to what it feels like to be talked over in a real life conversation.

I'm physically short and small compared to many people (tbh primarily men, a handful of women) I wind up chatting with when I go out and sometimes the convo gets steamrolled (or even driven rationally) into a direction I didn't sign up for. It feels rude to interrupt and yet I preferred the previous topic. This is why ilm is great for a person like me. I can pipe up whenever and wherever I please. People are free to ignore me but I'm also the same size as everyone else. It's weird.

I never used to talk about music with people except for two longtime friends who were also enthusiastic about stuff and were generally interested in the same things I was. After being here as long as I have, I'm way more comfortable piping up irl as well as here.

Felt kind of good to get this off my chest! Thanks ILM!

PS I like the crew here a lot and I am a friendly person with a straightforward agenda: talking about music in a non-combative fashion <3

Sorry, La Lechera! I'll go away. Most fun I've had on ILM in months!

Not asking you to go away!

It was just an observation I felt like sharing that was relevant to the idea of "what makes ilm appealing" -- that's why I asked how rude it would be. I honestly don't know :)

tbh the only reason I joined in was because of the hot dog comment you made about smoked beer, which was great

i think it's only rude if asked/demanded rudely! your question was of course not

Smoked beer literally turns your breath into hot dog air. I don't think it should be consumed outside the home.

no, not rude at all. and i am mostly to blame for taking things off the path. the revive was about recruiting new (young) posters. people can get back to that. sorry again. i don't really have any thoughts on recruitment.

discussing beer is at least less soul-deadening than discussing trolling

Lol otm

If we're talking recruitment, I think bringing lurkers out of their shells might get some new blood. At least they know what they're getting themselves into, for better or worse. And they're already here. Is there any way of tracking lurker stats?

maybe we could seduce them out of hiding w/ a special thread like: "Dear Lurkers Only - what are your 5 favorite albums? Don't worry you don't have to post anything anywhere else ever again." but of course once they do post then we know who they are and we can keep calling their names until they're forced to continue to participate.

discussing beer is at least less soul-deadening than discussing trolling

― a self-reinforcing downward spiral of male-centric indie (katherine)

true but honestly i think the conversation was better when we were talking steely dan. at a certain point listening to people talking about beer is like listening to people talking about computers - too much jargon!

maybe we could seduce them out of hiding w/ a special thread like: "Dear Lurkers Only - what are your 5 favorite albums? Don't worry you don't have to post anything anywhere else ever again." but of course once they do post then we know who they are and we can keep calling their names until they're forced to continue to participate.

― Mordy

never work, some regular is not going to be able to resist mocking lurkers for liking "mellon collie and the infinite sadness"

beer discussion itt hasn't really featured any jargon, just a lot of people saying whether or not they like cilantro

set ground rules - even if their favorite album of all time is dave's crash and their second favorite is a bootleg recording of the phish's exile on mainstream halloween show no one is allowed to mock them

i think i have the hate cilantro gene but i've now eaten it enough that while i don't enjoy it it doesn't ruin food for me but i have a question for ppl who do like it -- doesn't it overwhelm the taste of everything else when you eat it? even tho i can eat it without gagging it's so notable and stark a flavor that i can't taste anything else. does it taste more complimentary and less overwhelming if you have the like cilantro gene?

i've never felt overwhelmed by cilantro flavor, i feel like sometimes i must have a gene that makes cilantro kinda of unnoticeable to me.

"No one is allowed to mock them" - in the thread or at all (no secret sniping) ?

I am somewhat concerned that asking lurkers to pipe up is akin to asking for an annoying sock puppet to be created

only on secret 77 companion thread

I'm internet pals with Jute Gyte - in my next email I'll ask what beers he likes. Others do the same with Autechre, Beyonce, Deafheaven and The Boredoms and we should be able to triangulate something

This thread is under full chaos, quite enjoying it - a haven from eponymous signification. Free jazz internet

never work, some regular is not going to be able to resist mocking lurkers for liking "mellon collie and the infinite sadness"

flappy bird still posts

seem to recall that ilx has a high lurker-to-poster ratio & most read threads seems to bear that out but I suspect the vast majority of lurkers are just perfectly happy lurking

https://e.snmc.io/lk/l/l/580bc86dfc8f58e1056e6a16f1b7eb4d/4628164.jpg

this has been said many times but the search function working would help a lot

maybe we could seduce them out of hiding w/ a special thread like: "Dear Lurkers Only - what are your 5 favorite albums? Don't worry you don't have to post anything anywhere else ever again." but of course once they do post then we know who they are and we can keep calling their names until they're forced to continue to participate.

I like this idea.

When I lurked I would do so to find surprising viewpoints that I wasn't seeing elsewhere. That seems to exist less and less here now. A few new voices would shake things up I think. Most of the lurkers probably have interesting/eclectic tastes