Any reason why ILM is so quiet these days?

jute gyte is closer to rodenbach grand cru (and i've long associated it with the complexity and obsession-forming violence of higher-tier belgian sour) - no idea how it was conceived of or made but it's the greatest stuff out there. and yes, xposted by ogmor there in concordance

novelty ales* are more like the weird wonky artpop i get gleefully distracted by every year - see for instance blanche blanche blanche

*i appreciate that yesterday's novelty ales can become tomorrow's neoclassical masterpieces and indeed the trend towards gooseberry gose is already creating a formidable canon, but i'm essentially talking about those ales whose value is anecdotal rather than savoury

that does blanche x3 down rather though. the analogy is increasingly flawed the further one escapes formalism

or perhaps blanche x3, connan mockasin etc are among the gooseberry goses and the coriander umbels are the ones that don't stick despite an initial flourish - ingenious gimmicks like the band pivot from a while back

it doesn't quite settle along esoteric vs exoteric lines, but we are in the realm of high formal anguish

the beer that would least fit my personality would be.....a smoked porter. with bacon.

i am definitely a sourpuss.

high five, smoked beer is repulsive

(usually)

wrong

http://www.schlenkerla.de/indexe.html

In the middle of the old part of Bamberg, directly beneath the mighty cathedral, one can find the historic smoked beer brewery Schlenkerla. First mentioned in 1405 and now run by the Trum family in the 6th generation, it is the fountain of Original Schlenkerla Smokebeer (in German language it's called "Aecht Schlenkerla Rauchbier"). The smoked beer is here at the brewery tavern still being tapped directly from the wooden barrel according to old tradition.

"Even if the brew tastes somewhat strange at the first swallow, do not stop, because soon you will realize that your thirst will not decrease and your pleasure will visibly increase."

i've posted this before but it bears repeating.

that was definitely the first smoked beer i ever had. i didn't have too many though.

me too. my girlfriend loves it though

i wonder which musical ideology that parting aphorism lines up most snugly to

every time i read their site i just imagine myself strolling through bamberg on some cold winter day and wandering into the brewery to a big roaring fire and some wurst and beer, a sort of vision of the afterlife.

playing an oompah version of 'Peg'

reminds me of..........i had one of those strange experiences recently where i put on a CD to check something out that i remember people raving about years ago and i kinda made one of those faces while it was playing like: ehhhhh, yeahhhhh, okayyyyyy.....i GET this. like a jaded jerk. and then a day later i thought....hmmm, MAYBE i'll play it one more time. heard one song that sounded better than the first time i played it. a day later i played that CD ten times in a row. and i was like WOW talk about the slow burn! it came out in 2003. an American indie rock album.

and that CD was.....

i don't know if its the smoked beer of indie rock records though.

i'll give you ten guesses.

Dumpy's Rusty Nuts

close. wait, not close.

The Wrens

you got it!

two guesses. very impressive.

Now I can die.

Now we can all die.

Dumpy's Rusty Nuts has become my default answer to all bands questions these days.

they are probably better than Pavement or whoever.

Up there with Ned's Atomic Dustbin.

reminds me of..........i had one of those strange experiences recently where i put on a CD to check something out that i remember people raving about years ago and i kinda made one of those faces while it was playing like: ehhhhh, yeahhhhh, okayyyyyy.....i GET this. like a jaded jerk. and then a day later i thought....hmmm, MAYBE i'll play it one more time. heard one song that sounded better than the first time i played it. a day later i played that CD ten times in a row. and i was like WOW talk about the slow burn! it came out in 2003. an American indie rock album.

ok i had the exact same experience with the meadowlands, wow

great record

I'm not sure why that record/band is a punchline here. That album is unique and special.

Smoked beer will make your breath smell like hot dogs

sold

http://i.imgur.com/FBqKOTR.png

smoked beers are awesome

a few months ago i had this style of beer: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grodziskie, a Polish smoked wheat beer and it was really good. strange to have a smoked beer that was very light, usually they are dark

gose is an amazing style of beer but the US market has been swamped with awful versions of it

I've heard of Dumpy's Rusty Nuts as a punchline many times, but had never actually heard them, so I just checked them out on youtube.
My report: they sound exactly as you thought they would sound.

I'm not that into beer but I was in Gösel in Germany last summer and really enjoyed the gose with cinnamon and salt I drank there

Weren't they the go-to joke band of either Melody Maker or NME for about a decade?

xp

MM. Regular of the Talk Talk Talk column.

I'm not that into beer but I was in Gösel in Germany last summer and really enjoyed the gose with cinnamon and salt I drank there

I like the sound of that.

Sour beers rule

jjj turned me on to Paradox's Skully Barrel line which has varieties in it which will melt your face and others that are surprisingly quaffable.

i haven't had a good lambic in a while either. tart and/or sour is my fave thing. i like tart/crisp/acidic wine too.

gose is an amazing style of beer but the US market has been swamped with awful versions of it

― marcos, Friday, February 10, 2017 9:57 AM (thirty-four minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

i always buy microbrews for like $4 from the clearance aisle of the liquor store, which has its risks

but anyway i bought a gose beer "infused" with cactus or some shit and it tasted like puke

also i was with ez snappin and jjusten once at someone ordered a smoked beer and it tasted like an IPA that someone had put burnt piece of kingsford charcoal into

that smoked beer was so gross.

that German one linked to above is kinda the gold standard for smoked beer and i still never want one. but i can see the appeal.

How rude is it to suggest that this discussion be moved to a beer thread or the dads thread or ? I'm not trying to be rude but this is very similar to what it feels like to be talked over in a real life conversation.

I'm physically short and small compared to many people (tbh primarily men, a handful of women) I wind up chatting with when I go out and sometimes the convo gets steamrolled (or even driven rationally) into a direction I didn't sign up for. It feels rude to interrupt and yet I preferred the previous topic. This is why ilm is great for a person like me. I can pipe up whenever and wherever I please. People are free to ignore me but I'm also the same size as everyone else. It's weird.

I never used to talk about music with people except for two longtime friends who were also enthusiastic about stuff and were generally interested in the same things I was. After being here as long as I have, I'm way more comfortable piping up irl as well as here.

Felt kind of good to get this off my chest! Thanks ILM!

PS I like the crew here a lot and I am a friendly person with a straightforward agenda: talking about music in a non-combative fashion <3

Sorry, La Lechera! I'll go away. Most fun I've had on ILM in months!

Not asking you to go away!

It was just an observation I felt like sharing that was relevant to the idea of "what makes ilm appealing" -- that's why I asked how rude it would be. I honestly don't know :)

tbh the only reason I joined in was because of the hot dog comment you made about smoked beer, which was great

i think it's only rude if asked/demanded rudely! your question was of course not