I turn 30 next week. aaaaaaaaaargh
took me another 10 years, don't worry about it (yet)
― mookieproof, Thursday, 9 February 2017 17:28 (seven years ago) link
Traffic are British steely dan
― Sufjan Grafton, Thursday, 9 February 2017 17:33 (seven years ago) link
also "my old school" is the steely dan song that pairs best with mint cilantro chutney
― Sufjan Grafton, Thursday, 9 February 2017 17:37 (seven years ago) link
🗻
love Traffic, especially Mr. Fantasy, and still can't get SD. suppose you mean TLSoHHB. I try SD every so often and, no. just bought an ES-335 and I've been listening to Larry Carlton, so perhaps this is the year.
― by the light of the burning Citroën, Thursday, 9 February 2017 17:46 (seven years ago) link
you are collecting dan accoutrements
― Sufjan Grafton, Thursday, 9 February 2017 17:51 (seven years ago) link
but it isn't necessary. you may cancel the divorce proceedings.
― Sufjan Grafton, Thursday, 9 February 2017 17:52 (seven years ago) link
Supertramp probably remind me of Steely Dan more than traffic does. i don't think i ever would have thought of SD listening to Traffic. Supertramp: wordy story songs, progressive, horns, "clever", huge pop/rock hits, ubiquitous on radio for decades, idiosyncratic lead vocals, nerdy, top-notch musicality and production.
― scott seward, Thursday, 9 February 2017 18:11 (seven years ago) link
something i can't get away from on Facebook OR ILM: people actually listening to paul mccartney solo albums and, like, talking about them at length seriously. i don't know how old i would have to be to do that. and i'm old!
― scott seward, Thursday, 9 February 2017 18:17 (seven years ago) link
I got started at age 14 or 15 - sure, I think about quitting sometimes, but let's be real.
― tales of a scorched-earth nothing (Doctor Casino), Thursday, 9 February 2017 18:41 (seven years ago) link
Not to interrupt this legit-amazing digression but I wanted to point this out--
Steely Dan seem to be all-time-favourite-artists of pretty much everyone at the AV Club
--as a possible hint why ILX might actually seem less essential in these days: after years of being way ahead of the curve, it seems that in the past couple years, the rest of the Internet is starting to catch up
― gaznevada coombes (Drugs A. Money), Thursday, 9 February 2017 20:10 (seven years ago) link
XTC are the British Steely Dan.
― Working night & day, I tried to stay awake... (Turrican), Thursday, 9 February 2017 20:15 (seven years ago) link
for Steely Dan insert any artist in any sphere of art and this is true, which is why certain kinds of opinion - those that seek to prove cilantro tastes great/horrible by algebra, or those that just repeat over and over "I love/hate cilantro and there's nothing you can do to stop me", or those furrow-browed "why the hell does anybody like the taste of cilantro?" comments - are stupid and mockworthy and to be chased away if you feel like it on any given day
― Dick Hole Son (Noodle Vague), Thursday, February 9, 2017 2:48 AM (nine hours ago
I don't think is true. I think there are some artists (at least in the ILX discourse) that are more like bacon than cilantro. There are a lot of people who love them, but there are others that are ethically opposed and still others that mock the adoration of the bacon-artist fans and think they are overrated and overplayed.
― sarahell, Thursday, 9 February 2017 20:16 (seven years ago) link
is Avalon era Roxy Music the British Steely Dan?
― blonde redheads have more fun (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 9 February 2017 20:24 (seven years ago) link
cockney rebel got kinda steely dan
― blonde redheads have more fun (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 9 February 2017 20:29 (seven years ago) link
I think there are some artists (at least in the ILX discourse) that are more like bacon than cilantro
oh man i smell an awesome theory cooking
― j., Thursday, 9 February 2017 20:50 (seven years ago) link
― blonde redheads have more fun (upper mississippi sh@kedown
well no cuz SD had no members that looked like these two
http://68.media.tumblr.com/5daafc78c5fe29fc635f109942daa32e/tumblr_npe09jkvkl1u75h85o1_400.gif
― the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 9 February 2017 20:51 (seven years ago) link
re the bacon vs. cilantro theory -- someone else mentioned KISS upthread --they are def. in the bacon category
― sarahell, Thursday, 9 February 2017 20:52 (seven years ago) link
oh for this board to be so quiet again
― nashwan, Thursday, 9 February 2017 20:54 (seven years ago) link
if that is bacon then what is bread in this theory
― j., Thursday, 9 February 2017 21:03 (seven years ago) link
bread = artists it has become fashionable to claim being allergic to in the past few years? idk
― sarahell, Thursday, 9 February 2017 21:07 (seven years ago) link
lol
― sleeve, Thursday, 9 February 2017 21:11 (seven years ago) link
http://bravewords-public.s3.amazonaws.com/images/p17ng4m1tb26vvmh1dd94pf16ol6.jpg
― Evan, Thursday, 9 February 2017 21:12 (seven years ago) link
not every food product has an equivalent artist
― sarahell, Thursday, 9 February 2017 21:13 (seven years ago) link
Belle & Sebastian. Except Bread were much better.
― Eats like Elvis, shits like De Niro (Tom D.), Thursday, 9 February 2017 21:13 (seven years ago) link
https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/236x/3f/dc/b2/3fdcb2a4396f221d068260e957b0e587.jpg
― Evan, Thursday, 9 February 2017 21:13 (seven years ago) link
palm oil is the lost prophets of vegan fat
― nomar, Thursday, 9 February 2017 21:26 (seven years ago) link
still trying to wrap my mind about how *disliking* yacht rock makes one an out-of-touch dad
― a self-reinforcing downward spiral of male-centric indie (katherine), Thursday, 9 February 2017 21:28 (seven years ago) link
(bacon might be a good comparison: an oily, smarmy kind of thing elevated to meme status by legions of dudes)
― a self-reinforcing downward spiral of male-centric indie (katherine), Thursday, 9 February 2017 21:29 (seven years ago) link
Didn't realise Fleetwood Mac were one of the defining yacht rock bands.
But I don't think it's hard to imagine kids liking this stuff instead of what your average punk dad likes. Maybe after Ariel Pink, Kanye West and Justin Timberlake sampling or namedropping that stuff.
― Robert Adam Gilmour, Thursday, 9 February 2017 21:40 (seven years ago) link
to a lot of people they are! (I can tolerate them more than most other artists in the category, but)
― a self-reinforcing downward spiral of male-centric indie (katherine), Thursday, 9 February 2017 21:42 (seven years ago) link
ground zero for baconing culture might have been the Big Lebowski. subsequent baconings include bill murray, werner herzog, and sriracha.
― nomar, Thursday, 9 February 2017 21:42 (seven years ago) link
lebowski gets a pass for hating the fuckin' eagles
― a self-reinforcing downward spiral of male-centric indie (katherine), Thursday, 9 February 2017 21:44 (seven years ago) link
i dont think herzog has been baconed yet
― marcos, Thursday, 9 February 2017 21:44 (seven years ago) link
i mean how many people are really going to sit down w/ aguirre the wrath of god
― marcos, Thursday, 9 February 2017 21:45 (seven years ago) link
https://ih1.redbubble.net/image.29259198.2032/ra,fitted_v_neck,x1100,45474B:e9c9d4e890,front-c,260,195,225,375-pad,220x294,ffffff.2.jpg
― nomar, Thursday, 9 February 2017 21:46 (seven years ago) link
low-level baconing to be sure but baconing nonetheless
― nomar, Thursday, 9 February 2017 21:47 (seven years ago) link
living it up at the joke-tel California
― sarahell, Thursday, 9 February 2017 21:57 (seven years ago) link
"subsequent baconings include bill murray, werner herzog, and sriracha."
friggin' IPA. everyone likes beer and then people ruin it.
― scott seward, Thursday, 9 February 2017 22:16 (seven years ago) link
IPA, good christ. i live on the west coast and it's like "we brew both kinds of beer: IPA and double IPA"
― nomar, Thursday, 9 February 2017 22:18 (seven years ago) link
that article in the new york times about people standing in line all night to buy IPA. ugh. get one real beer. at a store. and then go home.
― scott seward, Thursday, 9 February 2017 22:20 (seven years ago) link
Oh god, articles in the new york times
― Sufjan Grafton, Thursday, 9 February 2017 22:27 (seven years ago) link
you keep up with current events we get it
― Sufjan Grafton, Thursday, 9 February 2017 22:28 (seven years ago) link
Hey, I like IPAs! I wouldn't stand in line for one, but I enjoy the drink.
― Evan, Thursday, 9 February 2017 22:28 (seven years ago) link
it was just like two days ago. big article. about standing in line.
― scott seward, Thursday, 9 February 2017 22:31 (seven years ago) link
i think everyone in line was a fan of The National.
hate it when national fans bring kids to the beer line
― Sufjan Grafton, Thursday, 9 February 2017 22:35 (seven years ago) link
oh shit sorry you are a beer line person. sorry.
just not an IPA fan. its symptomatic of something about america that i don't like. oooh, four kinds of nutmeg....
a too muchness thing. 14% goblincock beer kinda thing. you can't actually taste 8 kinds of hops in a beer. it's scientifically impossible.
― scott seward, Thursday, 9 February 2017 22:41 (seven years ago) link
I liked IPAs. Then IPAs ruined it for me. Actually had a really good one not long ago. Long Tail Limbo, but ymmv. But I keep buying them because they're usually the only beer at my liquor store that's not a lager or a stout.
― how's life, Thursday, 9 February 2017 22:42 (seven years ago) link
you should try crushing some sessionable IPAs with some National fans sometime
― Sufjan Grafton, Thursday, 9 February 2017 22:45 (seven years ago) link
when my kid is grown up enough to ask what beer tastes like I'm gonna give him an IPA
― frogbs, Thursday, 9 February 2017 22:48 (seven years ago) link