This movie is uncomfortable to the max.
it's hard work and not pleasant in any way. really it's the huge risk that i enjoyed most, and as a bonus it's visually mesmerising.
― Autumn Almanac, Tuesday, 7 February 2017 22:50 (seven years ago) link
Tideland is one of the worst films I've ever seen
― jjjusten, Tuesday, 7 February 2017 22:53 (seven years ago) link
Tideland not just suit but ugly and dull
12 monkeys great, his best effort at an actual movie
Parnassus far better than expected
Trouble with Gilliam is that he's sure he's clever and his one message is worth half making a lecturing panto about every three years when he's patently quite stupid and has little to say beyond denigrating competence
God knows Tim Burton is total shit but his best and his career average shits on Gilliam despite sharing almost all the same flaws
― Betsy DeVos Ayes (darraghmac), Tuesday, 7 February 2017 22:58 (seven years ago) link
XP hi jjj I knew praise for Tideland would get you in
― Betsy DeVos Ayes (darraghmac), Tuesday, 7 February 2017 22:59 (seven years ago) link
Parnassus started out really great w lovely concept, great art design, but towards the end when he was chasing his alt selves it went down tohe tubes
― AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Tuesday, 7 February 2017 23:01 (seven years ago) link
Just for avoidance of doubt I'm voting D btw
― Betsy DeVos Ayes (darraghmac), Tuesday, 7 February 2017 23:01 (seven years ago) link
having seen Time Bandits again recently, it still rules and is a whole lot of fun
― AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Tuesday, 7 February 2017 23:02 (seven years ago) link
― Autumn Almanac, Tuesday, 7 February 2017 22:50
Really? I found it quite pleasant because a lot of the time she's having fun. I still think it's great.
― Robert Adam Gilmour, Tuesday, 7 February 2017 23:08 (seven years ago) link
Pleasant? Her father goes on a heroin infused journey and checks out of her life and she spends most of her time dissociating from the cruelty of adults through her puppets. I guess that's the beauty of interpretation.
― Everything Moves Towards The Sun (Ross), Tuesday, 7 February 2017 23:12 (seven years ago) link
PS. Robert, didn't mean that in any way as an attack
― Everything Moves Towards The Sun (Ross), Tuesday, 7 February 2017 23:13 (seven years ago) link
yeah 'pleasant' isn't the word i'd be using. her apparent happiness is the absolute consequence of everything that's wrong with her life imo (iirc; it's ages since i saw it).
― Autumn Almanac, Tuesday, 7 February 2017 23:15 (seven years ago) link
"Mirrormask" did a similar theme well I thought.
― Everything Moves Towards The Sun (Ross), Tuesday, 7 February 2017 23:18 (seven years ago) link
Ross- I don't think I would take it as an attack but thanks anyway.
The main thing that sticks with me about this is Gilliam saying that when she grows up, all this could be seen as the best or worst time of her life. But it's difficult to imagine her father's death not overshadowing the good times.
― Robert Adam Gilmour, Tuesday, 7 February 2017 23:22 (seven years ago) link
Munchausen, Brazil and Time Bandits are all the business. quality varies thereafter - am seriously trepidatious about the Imaginarium
― in a style known as "Early Cleveland" (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 23 November 2010 17:41 (six years ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
a mixture of trippy and bodacious? Fitting, imo.
― Goths in Home & Away in my lifetime (darraghmac), Tuesday, 23 November 2010 17:43 (six years ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
um
http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/trepidatious
― in a style known as "Early Cleveland" (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 23 November 2010 17:46 (six years ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
ur middle name ought to be 'understanding of wordplay'
― Goths in Home & Away in my lifetime (darraghmac), Tuesday, 23 November 2010 17:52 (six years ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
actually, that is the definition of "mo"
― ali-baba-boob-job-bomb.jpg (DJP), Tuesday, 23 November 2010 17:53 (six years ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
understanding of wordplay money understanding of wordplay problems
― Goths in Home & Away in my lifetime (darraghmac), Tuesday, 23 November 2010 17:57 (six years ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
dont talk shite
see, you just don't understand wordplay
― ali-baba-boob-job-bomb.jpg (DJP), Tuesday, 23 November 2010 18:11 (six years ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
Good routine that
― Betsy DeVos Ayes (darraghmac), Tuesday, 7 February 2017 23:27 (seven years ago) link
i wonder whether he got worse for the same reason george lucas got worse: everyone around him just doing what he says unquestioningly
― Autumn Almanac, Tuesday, 7 February 2017 23:29 (seven years ago) link
e.g. 12 monkeys looking like brazil because production design thought he would like that
― Autumn Almanac, Tuesday, 7 February 2017 23:30 (seven years ago) link
The problem with Tideland is not one of performance, technical execution or -as imago was typically desperate to enthusiastically doing round- the squares being shocked by the themes or plot.
It's the clumsiness. I said hamfisted above and it's still the right word. When you are clumsy and hamfisted and the topic is deliberately risky then the result will be a greater blowout than if you are as clumsy and hamfisted as Gilliam almost always is but the plot revolves around Johnny Depp mugging at a fish.
Gilliam's defence at the start of Tideland underlines his missing the point. It's not the theme. He's not shocked us with farts and underage sexual innuendo. His sin is that he earns nothing of the cloak of bold genius he thinks he dons by sheer virtue of a controversial attempt. He lets his actors down. Any drunk uncle can grasp at a shocking subject as he's being fucked out of the bar. Gilliam lacks the intellect, discipline and focus to actually shock, regardless of the theme. His level of execution isn't worthy of Sid James. The cunt is bawdy and he thinks he's dangerous. It's pathetic.
― Betsy DeVos Ayes (darraghmac), Tuesday, 7 February 2017 23:35 (seven years ago) link
I'm not sure it was important that it be shocking. I think he may have even made an effort to take the edge off the nasty stuff.
― Robert Adam Gilmour, Tuesday, 7 February 2017 23:42 (seven years ago) link
He hasn't got an edge imo
― Betsy DeVos Ayes (darraghmac), Tuesday, 7 February 2017 23:43 (seven years ago) link
admittedly if it weren't gilliam i probably would never have watched it
― Autumn Almanac, Tuesday, 7 February 2017 23:44 (seven years ago) link
Darra- I mean just softening the uglier stuff like the corpse, child abuse and so on.
― Robert Adam Gilmour, Tuesday, 7 February 2017 23:45 (seven years ago) link
I didn't like Zero Theorem at all, it was just irritating and looked bad. I thought Parnassus was pretty good though. I think Gilliam is still capable of making a good movie but I don't know what it would take to get him to do that.
― akm, Wednesday, 8 February 2017 00:19 (seven years ago) link
I liked things about Parnassus but the cgi and product placement puts a huge damper on it for me. I don't know why it'd look better than Zero Theorem.
― Robert Adam Gilmour, Wednesday, 8 February 2017 00:40 (seven years ago) link
darragh kind of 3 quarters otm
― Dick Hole Son (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 8 February 2017 07:24 (seven years ago) link
Not a bad return when the bloods up.
I'd note that it refers in the main to Tideland only, with a few recurring criticisms. If that helps.
― Betsy DeVos Ayes (darraghmac), Wednesday, 8 February 2017 07:52 (seven years ago) link
well I've never felt the need to watch Tideland but bar a little rhetorical over-egging they felt like fair criticisms of the bulk of his career, the irony being that rhetorical over-egging is v. much a Gilliamesque trait, obv
― Dick Hole Son (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 8 February 2017 09:38 (seven years ago) link
Thing is I've never been able to get through the first twenty minutes of Brazil. So yknow there's that.
― Betsy DeVos Ayes (darraghmac), Wednesday, 8 February 2017 09:57 (seven years ago) link
what
― Autumn Almanac, Wednesday, 8 February 2017 11:17 (seven years ago) link
The order in which you approach an ouevre matters I guess.
Brazil, time bandits, same old Gilliam afaic
― Betsy DeVos Ayes (darraghmac), Wednesday, 8 February 2017 11:22 (seven years ago) link
don't have much to add to this convo tbh but i just wanted to register my appreciation for dmac's new display name - a+ work
― for sale: steve bannon waifu pillow (heavily soiled) (bizarro gazzara), Wednesday, 8 February 2017 11:56 (seven years ago) link
nod
― Betsy DeVos Ayes (darraghmac), Wednesday, 8 February 2017 14:11 (seven years ago) link
so Don Quixote is finished. Already loads of criticism regardling charges that he 'destroyed' a convent, though the descriptions of 'destroyed' sound a bit overblown to me (a few broken modern roof tiles, and trees that were planted for another movie were removed).
― akm, Monday, 5 June 2017 22:39 (six years ago) link
He's a clumsy oaf
― quet inn tarnation (darraghmac), Tuesday, 27 June 2017 23:49 (six years ago) link
What happened?
― Robert Adam Gilmour, Wednesday, 28 June 2017 00:00 (six years ago) link
rip
― sleepingbag, Wednesday, 28 June 2017 00:02 (six years ago) link
Is this about smashing up the nunnery?
― how's life, Wednesday, 28 June 2017 09:10 (six years ago) link
It's a pleasingly complete description tbh
― quet inn tarnation (darraghmac), Wednesday, 28 June 2017 10:37 (six years ago) link
http://www.vulture.com/2018/04/here-is-the-long-awaited-man-who-killed-don-quixote-trailer.html
― the ignatius rock of ignorance (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 11 April 2018 04:01 (five years ago) link
Damn looks like it might be a return to form
― Droni Mitchell (Ross), Wednesday, 11 April 2018 04:16 (five years ago) link
i hear it's being delayed again due to a lawsuit this time from someone who was one of the original producers (who gilliam claims never actually put in any money)
― akm, Wednesday, 11 April 2018 13:46 (five years ago) link
second trailer is a bad trailer, but I suspect that's the studio trying to make it look less Gilliam-y
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xVArq_Qs9lY
― she carries a torch. two torches, actually (Joan Crawford Loves Chachi), Monday, 30 April 2018 18:19 (five years ago) link
looks interesting and maybe trying for a Fellini feel. i really enjoyed Imaginarium (well the first 2/3 of it, by the ending the plot turned to shit).
― Hazy Maze Cave (Adam Bruneau), Tuesday, 1 May 2018 12:56 (five years ago) link
https://screenrant.com/terry-gilliam-man-don-quixote-rights/
:(
Director Terry Gilliam has encountered more trouble with his years-long passion project The Man Who Killed Don Quixote, as news broke today that the filmmaker has lost his rights to the film. Despite all of the time that Gilliam has poured into the film’s production, the director lost a court battle that determined who had proper rights to The Man Who Killed Don Quixote.The Paris Court of Appeal ruled that the film’s former producer Paulo Branco has the rights to the project after reviewing a 2016 contract that confirmed Branco’s enduring ties to the film. It was Branco that originally began the suit, taking Gilliam to court over the film’s rights after claiming the filmmaker made the movie illegally.
The Paris Court of Appeal ruled that the film’s former producer Paulo Branco has the rights to the project after reviewing a 2016 contract that confirmed Branco’s enduring ties to the film. It was Branco that originally began the suit, taking Gilliam to court over the film’s rights after claiming the filmmaker made the movie illegally.
― obviously DLC (Karl Malone), Sunday, 17 June 2018 16:58 (five years ago) link
what the hellthis project is cursed as fuck
― CARL MARKS PRINCIPAL INVESTING AND ADVISORY SERVICES (bizarro gazzara), Sunday, 17 June 2018 17:00 (five years ago) link
well
gilliam behaves like a total fuckin brat asshole so stuff like this is perhaps tbe
― tired culché (darraghmac), Sunday, 17 June 2018 17:17 (five years ago) link
that's true however everything I read about this lawsuit was bullshit.
― akm, Sunday, 17 June 2018 22:18 (five years ago) link
well this did get some good reviews... i hope we see it eventually
https://www.villagevoice.com/2018/05/19/keep-tilting-terry-with-the-magical-man-who-killed-don-quixote-gilliam-embraces-the-madness/
― a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 22 August 2018 18:35 (five years ago) link
this film has leaked all over t0rr3nt sites btw. haven't watched it yet.
― akm, Sunday, 13 January 2019 19:02 (five years ago) link
It came to the film festival here and was *much* better than I thought it would be, like 5/10
― Pierrot with a thousand farces (wins), Sunday, 13 January 2019 19:06 (five years ago) link
A One Night-Only Event!
https://deadline.com/2019/02/the-man-who-killed-don-quixote-trailer-adam-driver-jonathan-pryce-terry-gilliams-1202565160/
― a large tuna called “Justice” (C. Grisso/McCain), Tuesday, 26 February 2019 16:38 (five years ago) link