Any reason why ILM is so quiet these days?

deej is a valuable and likable member of the ILM community

on the other hand one of my fave things about lex (hi lex!) is his ability to complain about music without making it personal about the people who do like that music

Complaining about their kids is a different story tho...

yeah I'm not going to step to him on issues of pets, kids, or sandwiches

I've posted my fair share of stuff that has no insight but I think there is a difference between replies which are "I don't agree and you should rethink because of Reasons XY&Z" and "hahaha fuck off."

Also if light conversation type "I like this it is good" posts lead to a reply from one of the greater critical thinkers around here who can illuminate a piece of music and enhance its pleasures etc I don't see how that is a bad thing in itself.

also I think that the mentality of "let's be mean/tough/whatever because life is like that" which I've noticed in a few threads (such as the missing Fred B) one is grim, other people's shitty attitudes and behaviours shouldn't be an excuse for your own.

i think a lot of times who is being "shitty" has a lot more to do with who is afforded the benefit of the doubt, who is reflecting the egos of the people liable to be agreed with—who is reflecting a consensus view—than it is anything to do w/ a posting style

you're talking about drawing young posters, i started the peep thread its like 80 posts of 40 year olds telling me he sucks for posts & posts & that i have shit taste etc. then when someone asks who's mean on ilx ppl are more likely to point to me than them lol

lol deej my default is to question what you post (I lurk the rap threads) because your default stance is to plop your take on the table as if its a given and then any contrary opinion is a challenger or diss

so of course people immediately start dissing. your actual writing about music is good, it's the post presentation that's funny

I think because ilxors just appear as letters on a screen it's easier to forget which ones told me to fuck off in the past.

I've only been told to fuck off (literally "fuck off") once that I can recall and I remember who why and when because it was such a surprise (like a slashed tire surprise not a good one). I find it alternately a relief that no one can see me and a burden because if you can't see ppl it's easier to tell them cavalierly to fuck off.

Also D-40 otm about benefit of the doubt.

Also if light conversation type "I like this it is good" posts lead to a reply from one of the greater critical thinkers around here who can illuminate a piece of music and enhance its pleasures etc I don't see how that is a bad thing in itself.

i was gonna say something to this effect, they can't all be tim and ned writing essays to each other about garbage

I feel like that's a subtle dog thread jab. Typical dickhole dad child bias

― Evan, Tuesday, February 7, 2017 1:10 PM (fifty-three minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

what's the dog thread? i'm a dad you have to tell me

i'm probably a dickhole sometimes i guess

deej is fun to argue with but also he's like insanely plugged into rap shit that's bubbling under even underground acclaim, like sub 5000 YT hit stuff it's impressive

it's probably been a while since someone crafted a post in a word document or whatever. some of them were so long and no typos! maybe contenderizer. is he still around? he was like the last stand for going long.

― scott seward

i write any post of mine longer than three words in wordpad. but my spelling and grammar keep getting worse so i should probably switch to word!

Lex said he got jumped by dads in the dog thread a few weeks ago. I don't know what the dog thread is, but my theory id he was confusing it with the time he said he hates children and everybody piled on him. However, Skot made a remark about 'hounding' that Evan interpreted as a dog thread remark.

Xp

Yeah the taking sides children or animals who would win in a fight to the death thread revive from a few months back

dickhole dogs vs dickhole dads

I've only been told to fuck off (literally "fuck off") once that I can recall and I remember who why and when because it was such a surprise (like a slashed tire surprise not a good one).

I remember lashing out at you over some comment you made about Taylor Swift fans, maybe 7 years ago? I hope this isn't the one you're remembering. If so, I'm sorry. I mean, either way...

Ha, no
I don't think you told me to fuck off but if you did, I forgot. I probably deserved it if I was slagging Taylor Swift fans. That's rude.

I don't think I could take any response to LL as seriously hostile. There are people you can't be hostile to, even if it looks hostile.

i've been called a cunt twice, which is actually pretty lol

is it bad if I can only giggle at that

real life is horribler than here :)

some guy told me to fuck off yesterday on ilx! but it was on the irrationally angry thread so i didn't care. he was in the right place.

amazingly it is possible to say that things are bad without also saying things used to be better or worse

am I a dickhole dad? yes I think/hope? lex on kids was hilarious, hilariously wrong but he's one of the good people here imo, on music at least

I hope it wasn't me, LL!

My favorite lex thread: Marilyn Haggerty's amazing Olive Garden review and the subsequent viral shitstorm

idk who you are odysseus so no? :)
The incident was because I suggested that an expression of coarse sexual language was gross (it was and is) and the response was "fuck off this is a message board"
I didn't take the "fuck off" personally (i don't think the poster has any idea who i am as a person) so much as was surprised that it being on a message board was the excuse. i don't agree with that at all, that message board discourse is different from any other kind. i think that's outdated and also wrong.

Nah I prefer the one about him buying potatoes

xp

in the original Zork the answers "ulysses" and "odysseus" are both valid solutions to getting past the cyclops??

Here was the earlier thread I was referring to Taking sides: Children vs. (non-human) animals

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i think this puzzle/solution goes as far back as the pdp-10 version

the lex hates comedy thread is also classic lex

there was a thread? i just thought that was a thing i enjoyed about lex

I never posted anything regarding lex's olive garden thread magnum opus because my irl food habits are not much different *sips bowl of soup*

http://img.aws.livestrongcdn.com/ls-article-image-640/cme/photography.prod.demandstudios.com/057d38a0-5a78-4c27-9c34-4381d7c06cc8.jpg

come on man, I use a tea kettle and "better than bouillon" paste

I listened to the album that has little jimmy scott duetting with joe pesci and I'm here to say

music

thread

i think a lot of times who is being "shitty" has a lot more to do with who is afforded the benefit of the doubt,

this is often true (e.g. k8), though posters develop reputations that make people not want to give them the benefit of the doubt. Assumptions based on past behavior. It's human nature. This is also something that has negatively affected the aforementioned she-who-used-to-post-here-for-15-plus-years, as well as you, herr deejington

miss u sarahell

LL - same! off-topic, do you have a link to the article the stanford grad student wrote about the af. am. dialect? I read the interview with her, and it's something I want to read, but the interview didn't link to anything about her actual research.

an empty bullshit opinion from an empty bullshit person, and only a reality-challenged person (coughdeejcough) could find any apophenic tea leaf use in a bullshit post like that.

rtc, scratch a penny on your thesaurusisms and you're every bit as skim milk as ilx's most skim milk poster. Being a little more quotably eye-roll-worthy won't cover up your flaccid mediocrity or your internalized high school pecking order trauma, and it won't fix whatever neurosis you're working through on the internet instead of in front of a therapist.

― bamcquern, Tuesday, February 7, 2017 8:01 AM (five hours ago)

Bryce, are you having an angry day?

wouldn't be the only one clearly

xp - of course, sent!

for ref: (from knoxville thread)

ok stay hard

― bamcquern, Wednesday, April 6, 2011 4:23 PM (five years ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

ok stay impenetrably clueless!

― ☠ (roxymuzak), Wednesday, April 6, 2011 4:25 PM (five years ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Are you having an angry day?

― bamcquern, Wednesday, April 6, 2011 4:27 PM (five years ago)

amazingly it is possible to say that things are bad without also saying things used to be better or worse

i feel like every time a thread like this comes up some people say "it's worse than ever" and others say "it's the same as ever" and less often a few say "it's better than it was", and i've prob been all three, but the truth is it's almost impossible to tell and we never seem to get beyond these three points of view.

these threads feel so indicative of general ways people talk about the past versus the present - we might as well be talking about fishing rods or america for all they tell us about ilx.

fishing rods

Time was. . .

its for sure true that people use this less frequently bc social media became a major outlet for the world

personally i miss having a dividing line between my obsession w/ music nerdery & my real world life, it was like one was an outlet to let the other one feel fairly normal & now im forced to reconcile the two which is wack

xxp yeah, historically "it's always been that way" has not been a good justification for anything, so its weird to see so many users adopt that line. "So what if ILM is a frat house that's unwelcoming to women, newcomers and casual observers, it's always been that way." Some status quos aren't worth preserving.

are there any (other) good music message boards in 2017? aside from ilm, the only one I ever read was dissensus, but that's pretty quiet these days.