Any reason why ILM is so quiet these days?

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(i have such a love/hate thing with facebook. i'll post a lot and then regret it for weeks. and i don't even drink anymore! i just get more self-conscious about it or something and think people must be sick of me/hate me. and yet i have never really cared if people on ilx were sick of me/hated me. i don't know why. and i end up hating other people on facebook in a way that i never have here.)

scott seward, Tuesday, 7 February 2017 18:00 (seven years ago) link

i only post on the ilm threads that hew to my dorky taste, but also where there's more of a chill fun vibe & where posters that i "trust" are gathered, more often than not ... if it's ppl complaining about each others opinions or showing off i'll go elsewhere ... competitive opinion-having isn't really my bag except in jest to all caps yell about poll results :)

i do read quite a few ilm threads though i dont always post

Flamenco Drop (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 7 February 2017 18:03 (seven years ago) link

there are good zings and bad zings

ILM wouldn't have been as great as it was without a foundation of clowning received wisdom, kneejerk rockism and disdain towards popular (often female and/or black) artists. And when I joined it was very much the kind of place that inspired you to up your posting game and your critical thought - sometimes leading by example, like when you read an amazing Tom E or Tim F (or rtc) post and sometimes yes, by getting knocked back when you proffered something ignorant or basic. These days I guess there is much less of the former (I sometimes wonder how many relatively-new posters read some of the archived stuff from the start).

And there was definitely a time when it was an incredibly toxic place. Most of those responsible have been kicked off.

Also find it quite amusing how some of the dickhole dad posse were perfectly happy calling me a waste of space in the dogs thread the other week and now piously all about keeping it positive! My goodness.

lex pretend, Tuesday, 7 February 2017 18:03 (seven years ago) link

(and the same it true of that group. i loved it at first and posted all the time and then it just started to bug me. it's just people posting pictures of what they are listening to and there are good conversations but i just end up feeling sour towards people's GREATEST BESTEST FAVORITE OF ALL TIME THIS RECORD CHANGED MY LIFE posts and all the endless classic rock - like i should talk - but whatever. even the person who started the group doesn't post or moderate anymore! people here are just more my speed. even the people on here i don't really know that well sorta end up interacting like everyone else and they get the vibe for the most part. or they are just smarter. interacting with strangers on the internet though can be.....blahhhh.)

scott seward, Tuesday, 7 February 2017 18:06 (seven years ago) link

Also find it quite amusing how some of the dickhole dad posse were perfectly happy calling me a waste of space in the dogs thread the other week and now piously all about keeping it positive! My goodness.

i have no idea what any of this is about but it's pretty hilarious out of context

na (NA), Tuesday, 7 February 2017 18:10 (seven years ago) link

"actual regular people with jobs, families and responsibilities engage w/ music" - this salt of the earth bullshit is not your style, rtc

pointless rock guitar (Michael B), Tuesday, 7 February 2017 18:11 (seven years ago) link

and i end up hating other people on facebook in a way that i never have here.)

― scott seward, Tuesday, 7 February 2017 18:00

Maybe it's the avatars.

Robert Adam Gilmour, Tuesday, 7 February 2017 18:12 (seven years ago) link

ned really should have started a friggin' website for pete's sake. with advertising. get some $$ for all those links. you can make money with link sites, no?

scott seward, Tuesday, 7 February 2017 18:13 (seven years ago) link

sometimes leading by example, like when you read an amazing Tom E or Tim F (or rtc) post and sometimes yes, by getting knocked back when you proffered something ignorant or basic

yeah this environment has genuinely improved my writing and thinking on all fronts bc of the above

who is extremely unqualified to review this pop album (BradNelson), Tuesday, 7 February 2017 18:15 (seven years ago) link

i'm trying to think of that long-ass indie-rock thread that miccio started years ago....can't think of the title. stuff like that would never happen now. buncha goofballs!

scott seward, Tuesday, 7 February 2017 18:15 (seven years ago) link

it's probably been a while since someone crafted a post in a word document or whatever. some of them were so long and no typos! maybe contenderizer. is he still around? he was like the last stand for going long.

scott seward, Tuesday, 7 February 2017 18:17 (seven years ago) link

Who and what are the dickhole dads?

I miss contenderizer

Robert Adam Gilmour, Tuesday, 7 February 2017 18:19 (seven years ago) link

contenderizer is still around, mostly appears in the metal thread once in awhile iirc

who is extremely unqualified to review this pop album (BradNelson), Tuesday, 7 February 2017 18:19 (seven years ago) link

Probably a biker gang or something

xp

Evan, Tuesday, 7 February 2017 18:19 (seven years ago) link

I can't be the only one wondering what was said to make a thread about dogs quite so contentious and personal?

Matt DC, Tuesday, 7 February 2017 18:22 (seven years ago) link

that took a fucking turn
xp

rob, Tuesday, 7 February 2017 18:22 (seven years ago) link

i for one will not rest until i've ruined this board for turrican

― who is extremely unqualified to review this pop album (BradNelson), Tuesday, February 7, 2017 5:24 PM (forty-four minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Brad - here's a heads up: you won't. Besides, wouldn't it be better to focus that energy on something else, like working on being a half-decent music critic or something? It's of little surprise to see you drag me into this discussion, mind - I otherwise would have been more than happy not to contribute, as much as I've been following the discussion.

Working night & day, I tried to stay awake... (Turrican), Tuesday, 7 February 2017 18:24 (seven years ago) link

lmao the google alert works

who is extremely unqualified to review this pop album (BradNelson), Tuesday, 7 February 2017 18:25 (seven years ago) link

see, it's threads like this where i learn there is an epic brad -vs- turrican beef! who knew?

scott seward, Tuesday, 7 February 2017 18:26 (seven years ago) link

Re: dickhole dads

Reminds me of how I started hearing about the whitedads category (middle aged white guys putting on a down to earth act, transparently pandering to be cool with the social justice kids)

Robert Adam Gilmour, Tuesday, 7 February 2017 18:27 (seven years ago) link

I agree with lex about it being way worse ten years ago. I was pretty much jeered at non-stop for my first two years, and I can't really blame them. I mean, I've written some not-good posts in the past week or so, but even those are prob 2000% better than stuff I was saying on the reg in 2006/7

I dont know if imago would back me up on this or not but it is a little strange to see his 'ahahaha' held up as emblematic of current board toxicity when there was practically a genre of threads dedicated to banning him back in the day

gaznevada coombes (Drugs A. Money), Tuesday, 7 February 2017 18:28 (seven years ago) link

ned really should have started a friggin' website for pete's sake. with advertising. get some $$ for all those links. you can make money with link sites, no?

Next best thing: I ended up with a column:

http://www.nashvillescene.com/music/nashville-cream/article/20850325/neds-atomic-link-bin

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 7 February 2017 18:29 (seven years ago) link

I dont know if imago would back me up on this or not but it is a little strange to see his 'ahahaha' held up as emblematic of current board toxicity when there was practically a genre of threads dedicated to banning him back in the day

Mm.

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 7 February 2017 18:30 (seven years ago) link

I didn't mean the specific comment, more the general exchange.

a self-reinforcing downward spiral of male-centric indie (katherine), Tuesday, 7 February 2017 18:31 (seven years ago) link

btw there is an ilxors version of that group scott mentions. Quite a few ex ilxors from the old days are in it.

Its very relaxed and noone gets mocked for what they post. Anyone who wants to can join

https://www.facebook.com/groups/ilxorsnowplaying/

Odysseus, Tuesday, 7 February 2017 18:32 (seven years ago) link

i have a kneejerk reaction to any "things used to be better" hot take about anything but i've been on ilx pretty much since the beginning and i can say with certainty that it has always been good and bad, if not always in the same ways. anyone pining for some golden past of ilx is kidding themselves, same as anyone pining for some golden past of american history or whatever.

na (NA), Tuesday, 7 February 2017 18:32 (seven years ago) link

ILX turns 17 in summer. Weird to think about.

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 7 February 2017 18:34 (seven years ago) link

almost time for the "ILX: Hot, Ready, and Legal" thread

nomar, Tuesday, 7 February 2017 18:35 (seven years ago) link

several xposts:

I've been following the discussion.

― Working night & day, I tried to stay awake... (Turrican), Tuesday, February 7, 2017 6:24 PM (four minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

^ I'm just going to leave this here for you again, Brad, since your comprehension skills still haven't seem to have improved.

Working night & day, I tried to stay awake... (Turrican), Tuesday, 7 February 2017 18:35 (seven years ago) link

sry can't read pls try me again when you're able to express yourself like an adult instead of a ponderous dickhole

who is extremely unqualified to review this pop album (BradNelson), Tuesday, 7 February 2017 18:37 (seven years ago) link

almost time for the "ILX: Hot, Ready, and Legal" thread

― nomar, Tuesday, 7 February 2017 18:35

lol

Odysseus, Tuesday, 7 February 2017 18:37 (seven years ago) link

Calling all dickhole dads

Evan, Tuesday, 7 February 2017 18:38 (seven years ago) link

ugh fighting with turrican isn't fun bc he's really boring, sorry i even brought him up as a joke

who is extremely unqualified to review this pop album (BradNelson), Tuesday, 7 February 2017 18:38 (seven years ago) link

"dickhole dads" still haunting me imo

Flamenco Drop (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 7 February 2017 18:38 (seven years ago) link

hearing it to the tune of the Flintstone kids vitamin jingle now

rob, Tuesday, 7 February 2017 18:39 (seven years ago) link

i am a dad and a dickhole but i feel like those are separate facets of my identity usually idk ask my kids they may disagree

sheer presence, look and size (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 7 February 2017 18:39 (seven years ago) link

can't believe nomar linked lagoon's entire t-shirt collection upthread

mh 😏, Tuesday, 7 February 2017 18:43 (seven years ago) link

lmao

who is extremely unqualified to review this pop album (BradNelson), Tuesday, 7 February 2017 18:44 (seven years ago) link

can't believe nomar linked lagoon's entire t-shirt collection upthread

― mh 😏, Tuesday, February 7, 2017

one for the pub and one for the web

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 7 February 2017 18:45 (seven years ago) link

btw Brad the google alert joke was good and I wasn't even aware of this non-beef

mh 😏, Tuesday, 7 February 2017 18:46 (seven years ago) link

Which dogs thread?

how's life, Tuesday, 7 February 2017 18:46 (seven years ago) link

speaking of t-shirt collections u know what the internet is missing? a website that comprehensively catalogues band t-shirts.

Mordy, Tuesday, 7 February 2017 18:47 (seven years ago) link

and i end up hating other people on facebook in a way that i never have here.)

I think because ilxors just appear as letters on a screen it's easier to forget which ones told me to fuck off in the past.

duped and used by my worst Miss U (President Keyes), Tuesday, 7 February 2017 18:47 (seven years ago) link

speaking of t-shirt collections u know what the internet is missing? a website that comprehensively catalogues band t-shirts.

http://tshirtarchive.com/

ornate orchestral arrangements (DJP), Tuesday, 7 February 2017 18:48 (seven years ago) link

I like turrican and brad and i wish they didnt hate each other

Odysseus, Tuesday, 7 February 2017 18:49 (seven years ago) link


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