Migos, "T-Shirt"

Bad and Boujee was a hit because of streaming. And then it was a hit in other formats - because of streaming. Same thing happened with Juju and most other rap hits that no one thought were real hits.

except ... chart position?

― alpine static, Tuesday, February 7, 2017 12:16 AM (one hour ago) Bookmark

there's a long phenomenon of songs having short bursts of chart relevancy at the very beginning of their life cycles going back to itunes sales getting incorporated into chart data

every song from starboy placed in the hot 100 its first week but the weeknd has 2 hits off that album so far

But now that seems to be changing. The songs that reach top 10 via streaming hang around longer these days because other formats start picking them up from there. That's what happened to Black Beatles, for instance. It's a new set of rules.

i wasn't trying to "own" anyone, i just think it sounds funny to say a song's not a hit except in the way we track hits, but y'all know how that stuff works better than me

fake hit

weingars, get to, droppin, when that, drake-o, get to, poppin [fddrrrr]

sometimes differentiating between a one month and six month hit matters a lot anthropologically but less so with 't-shirt' bc it is a super rad banger duh

whichever prevailing current u may opine it is most aided by (4real zeitgeist wave, industry ersatz hypebestiality, meme magic, or ppl's personal bubbles where they care about neither) (or... all of them at once *gasp*) it is v disingenuous rhetoric to imply that it only has marginal/negligible appeal beyond that. foh with the timmy turner

Timmy Turner reached #34 on the Hot 100, which makes it a minor hit but no t-shirt.

Bad and Boujee was a hit because of streaming. And then it was a hit in other formats - because of streaming. Same thing happened with Juju and most other rap hits that no one thought were real hits.

― human and working on getting beer (longneck), Tuesday, February 7, 2017 12:03 AM (two hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I'm aware dumbass. What is wrong with you guys

i wasn't trying to "own" anyone, i just think it sounds funny to say a song's not a hit except in the way we track hits, but y'all know how that stuff works better than me

― alpine static, Tuesday, February 7, 2017 12:53 AM (one hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

"We"

Suddenly going top 40 is a "minor hit" ? You guys have to make up your mind here about whether you're going to be strict charts constructionists or not around something other than the migos hypebeast cycle

If you're talking Timmy Turner, dumbass, then yes. Since it was his follow up to a Hot 100 #1 hit and was massively hyped, I'd consider it a minor hit at 34.

T shirt has so far peaked at 37....

"...and Migos' "T-Shirt," from Culture, vaults 37-19."
http://www.billboard.com/articles/columns/chart-beat/7678133/hot-100-ed-sheeran-shape-of-you-zayn-taylor-swift-surge-to

I was replying to J0rdan's "there's a long phenomenon of songs having short bursts of chart relevancy at the very beginning of their life cycles going back to itunes sales getting incorporated into chart data" - the point being that such long phenomenas are changing so that the past might not be the best way of assessing what will happen to a song like T-Shirt. Also, the weeknd is a strange point of comparison since his chart success largely derives from him catering to the old business model of letting the label take care of the marketing, writing songs for radio etc etc. He's not playing the Migos game.

no, what's changing is that songs that should have been bigger are getting more attention, but it doesn't change songs artificially launched into the top cf 'timmy turner' or 't-shirt'...per rtc tho yes t shirt is better than timmy turner

if t-shirt had come pre- bad & boujee, it would not be a hit

'say sum' is more of a hit than 't shirt' it just had the bad fortune to come before the colossus that is 'bad & boujee'

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BQ16egvquKE

Also, the weeknd is a strange point of comparison since his chart success largely derives from him catering to the old business model of letting the label take care of the marketing, writing songs for radio etc etc. He's not playing the Migos game.

― human and working on getting beer (longneck), Tuesday, February 7, 2017 2:53 AM (forty-eight minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

also you're kidding yourself if you think migos aren't 'writing songs for radio'

Well good luck with your alternative facts, deej. Every song comes out after another song. And Migos are writing the same type of songs that they always did about the same subject matter. That they do it better than on their last album and have developed their pop sensibilities quite a bit does not make Culture comparable to Starboy, sorry. Radio plays Bad & Boujee because it is already a hit but B&B was not written for radio and radio didn't make it a hit in the first place.

What's "artificial" about the streaming charts though? Those are the songs listeners actively seek out, unless you want to make an argument about playlists like Rap Caviar "skewing" the stats.
As mentioned above, today T-Shirt is at number 7 on the US spotify chart: https://spotifycharts.com/regional/us/daily/latest How does that not reflect its actual popularity?

They should have put cocoon on the album though.

agree its obv not another breakthru full spectrum cultural moment like 'b&b' but no one was rly claiming that either

"songs artificially launched into the top" there is a fine diff between zeitgeist and hypebeast and u know this... both distortive but only one is artificial

i might add by the by that it actually sounds awesome on the radio but i suppose the relevance of that depends on what radio is being discussed

wait why does streaming numbers not count into what is a hit?

isn't that the dominant form of music listening now?

if you search for "Migos" on apple music and tap on Bad and Boujee (probably why ppl are searching for Migos atm) then T-Shirt will start auto-playing after it finishes

if that happens on at least one other service, we know at least the first ten seconds of T-Shirt will be a hit because it takes a sec to hit the back button

mama told me that streaming don't work, one-hit wonder just like Truth Hurts

testing this on alexa

wo wo wo wo

ah the good uzi verse nice to enjoy it

so far the tracklist from asking alexa to "play migos" (via spotify) is
1 bad n boujee
2 hit juug

lol?

ive asked alexa to play migos prob 5 times and ive never heard this song before

3 thank u god

maybe she thinks its time to mix it up

4 free offset freestyle

sounds like a bad font

5 what u doin feat gucci

ok im gonna skip songs til i hear tshirt

ok weve got our second culture song at 6 kelly price

listening to call casting at 17

:) i like this song a lot its cool

ok its playing thank u god again whatever ive got things 2 do, seems random except the first song, shd look at their api seem what the options are

my alexa is bad & boujee

"kelly price" was the other one that sounded like a huge hit in waiting to me, as well as "t-shirt"

I heard "T-Shirt" this morning on 99 JAMZ after J. Cole and it was like stepping into a room stinking of good weed after leaving one full of school kids farting.

evocative

be real was j. cole rapping about his farts

wait why does streaming numbers not count into what is a hit?

isn't that the dominant form of music listening now?

― blonde redheads have more fun (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, February 7, 2017 10:17 AM (two hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

lol i remember this board taking a very different position on this back in the kreayshawn era when it would have counted for something

but oh billboard hadn't told you it was ok to think it was a hit yet

I miss the days when we could all rally together about kreayshawn

lol i remember this board taking a very different position on this back in the kreayshawn era when it would have counted for something

Kreayshawn Street Time will never die

oh fuck TEAM

goddammit sorry everyone

otm

heh

What ARE records like Forever and Culture II? Not really New Jersey's, but... close.

Supastars is actually pretty great, btw. It’s no t-shirt but it has grown on me.

And the verses on WTF were good iirc? The problem was that they didn’t quite come together as songs, and that there weren’t many real hits.

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Culture II and Wu Tang Forever aren't New Jerseys they are Use Your Illusions, a thing I just made up

Sounds about right. Sr3mm is somehow NOT a UYI though.

Man wu tang forever is way better than this... culture ii is if wu tang forever was recorded by Das efx... migos are not young millennial wu tang I’m offended

I do agree they’re both UYA’s though

"young millennial wu tang"

finally found my rapper name thanks

migos needs more guys if they want to be wu-tang the wu had like 25 guys ghostface killer, ugly sword, the gnarly monk and so forth

and several of those guys released classic solo albums before 'wu tang forever' dropped

who can forget gnarley monk's 'surf ninjas' lp

Yeah I mean I don't think they are on Wu's level

https://i.imgur.com/2CUoH6U.png

i wonder how that's aged

Culture II and Wu Tang Forever aren't New Jerseys they are Use Your Illusions, a thing I just made up

whoa

Wasn't comparing the quality of their work!

Comparing the cultural spot they find themselves in both heading into and out of the follow-up to their breakthrough.

The new Takeoff tape is the best Migos-fronted release of the year

low bar lol

well yeah, but it is good

Have we talked ab out Culture III at all yet?

Wearing my “t-shirt” today

quavo and takeoff announced a new rap duo and offset unfollowed them both on instagram 🙀 is it possible that they are amigos no longer??

yeah

gonna be an awkward family reunion