Any reason why ILM is so quiet these days?

poliopolice is intimidating to young ones

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What we need are YPPs.

I'm coming up on 9 years here, I post occasionally but there's been a decline in folks like Bimble who wore their enthusiasm on their sleeve and were equally excited to talk about young bands as well as old. It was contagious.

And speaking of old bands and old dogs, I'm not sure there's much more to be said on many long running threads. I can enthuse about band X or Y, or stand up and proclaim "I have discovered the greatness of so-and-so at this late date" but the response is understandably muted.

I still enjoy the places I dip into and love how ILM reminds me to play something old or check out something new. I tried using Facebook's "Present Listening" and similar groups but 1} the lack of easily viewed discussion history is a turn off and 2} you quickly see the same group of classic albums being extolled.

my reign of terror knows no limit. who is safe from the sting of derision

prince died and now there isn't music anymore

sometimes there is outright boneheaded meanness on ILX, like anywhere else on the internet, but a certain amount of piss-taking is never a bad thing if it makes people up their posting game compared to other internet forums.
you don't measure a site's goodness by the sheer volume of stuff being said, and what made ILX originally popular or attractive to most of its users was due to this quality control, however it might've hurt the feelings of people who feel like they ran foul of it.

tbh, pretty much every poster on the board has fallen foul of it at some point. cuddlier, more anodyne forums are available.

I don't buy the 'nobody joins because we're all assholes' theory cause ilx has always been full of assholes. if anything this place is less scary now that it's 40 y/o dads swapping PTA meeting notes and not 25 y/o hipsters.

doctor casino you're one of my favorite posters, i'd definitely follow you on twitter

I dunno. To illustrate, this is an exchange I had with somebody the one time I took the bait after years of ignoring their potshots and tried to figure out why they were being so aggro.

Man you really have it out for me lately, huh? Did I somehow offend you or something? You jump down my throat every time I post

― Evan R, Wednesday, 21 September 2016 02:12 Bookmark

man get a life. there is a discussion, you choose to contribute a point of view, i object to its flaccid suburban mediocrity, i pay you the courtesy of responding. that's how it works

Removing the poster's name as a courtesy, but their post went on like that. Why would anybody want to come back for more of that? The attitude here sometimes isn't just "I can be a raging asshole," but more often "I should be thanked and appreciated for having the courtesy to be a raging asshole." In what way does that facilitate conversation?

Who are all these assholes I'm hearing about?

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LOL, but seriously, I could count them on the fingers of one hand.

yeah but you're Scottish so probably have 7 fingers

trying to find a non-asshole way to say "but what if your opinions are mediocre?"

aw thanks g.t. fortunately for my sanity my phone is way too primitive/dying for twitter to be a viable option. also have no idea wtf I would even tweet about. really I shd just revive my diaryland page or something - now that'll reach the kids!

xps that first response hall of fame thread is pretty... assholey

anyway, I don't think it's that bad, atm ilm new answers features threads on Julien Baker, Thundercat, Tinashe, Mitski, Grouper, Kehlani, Julia Holter, Stormzy... all the same it may be true that younger posters could add energy, new thoughts, perspective etc etc - quite a few discussions on ilm seem over, would be nice with somebody to take issue with consensus

as to how, well 1st off yeah, makes a lot of sense to just start plugging ilm on reddit/twitter/FB whatever, is there some kind of unofficial link ban? vaguely recall a thread abt smth like whether or not some ilxor needed a perm ban for quoting ilx on a popular blog

2ndly: I'm p sure there's a FAQ somewhere, but we could consider a sticky topic near the top of SNA that explains how the site works, what bookmarks are, what otm means etc. etc.

i stumbled across a bimble blog post the other day, raving about how great something was : /

ilm's taste in music is more or less aligned with acts that already get attention through more accessible mediums/media making ilm obsolete

would be nice with somebody to take issue with consensus

seriously, would this be nice? "that music you think is good, i think it's shit, but that shit music you hate is really good". the less of that stupidness the better imo.

the ideas of "the consensus", "the hive-mind", "why does nobody wants to dig my favourite band?" - these things are just daft, they have no place on an interesting forum, this is the kind of stuff you can wallow in everywhere

write interestingly about stuff that interests you or don't bother

I can only imagine that to a young music nerd who found this site there would be a bizarro world feeling when they encountered widely held ILM opinions that barely seem to exist outside of here--like that Kanye's MBDMST3K is a pile of shit or that the 1975 made one of the best albums of 2016. I know I felt it when I first stumbled on this place and people were talking about how much Radio Disney and Ashley Simpson rocked.

are there really any similar boards to this place? some of the SA forums approach this quality and metafilter seems pretty decent from what i've seen but ILX seems to be a unique place

does anyone ever put a link to an ilx thread on facebook or twitter? i never do. that might be another reason new people don't show up. how would anyone find it? every once in a while i will mention ilx somewhere on facebook and someone i don't know will say "ewww, that place is the worst". and that will be that.

Kanye's MBDMST3K

Now there's a crossover.

I've occasionally linked threads in the past on FB and Twitter. But since I've abandoned most posting on those two places...

I joined I think in 2009 and after each of my first posts I was eviscerated for breaking thread etiquette I couldn't have possibly known about. (This may be part of why nobody starts new threads anymore, the second post is always some variation of "did we need a thread about this?")

heh i got that in 2001 from people even though what I was asking had nothing to do with whatever was discussed on the thread. Plus when I did revive a thread then my point was ignored and a few people discussed the OP.
in 2017 nothings changed!

as for lex's " old peoples polls" there was not a lot of interest in a companion 2000-15 lifetime of ILM poll to the lifetime of ilm metal poll I ran (and enjoyed as big polls DO bring most of the board together with lots of great comments and insights). So I postponed it

does anyone ever put a link to an ilx thread on facebook or twitter? i never do. that might be another reason new people don't show up. how would anyone find it? every once in a while i will mention ilx somewhere on facebook and someone i don't know will say "ewww, that place is the worst". and that will be that.

Used to do it for metal poll and ilm eoy poll but its not like I have many followers. I think people prefer facebook groups

ilm is much easier to look at work than FB

but young people don't have jobs

or that the 1975 made one of the best albums of 2016.

from my pov not liking the 1975 is now the bizarro-world opinion

(very belatedly: I didn't see the slur in the post I quoted, if I had I probably would not have quoted the whole thing)

i was talking with a irl music friend about message boards and told him i had been posting to ilx/m for over 10 years and he was like huh, i look up stuff on there all the time (he does a lot of fact-checking)

he was surprised i had been around so long and remained so relatively quiet elsewhere on social media but there's something so wonderful and plain about talking about music on ilm because i am just a name and words on a screen. it relieves a lot of the things that make conversations about music fraught (can't think of another or more appropriate word) elsewhere. i think ilm needs more women but that time has probably come and gone? idk.

In...Christ, something like 13 or 14 years here, I've only personally had serious issues with like two posters, and one of them has turned out to be a cool dude in recent years. I have very little tolerance for assholes so I'm pretty okay with the asshole levels of this particular online haunt.

seems like most of us have gotten older and have other interests/responsibilities besides listening to a bunch of music and talking about it

guessing that dwindling numbers of young posters is less of a problem than dwindling numbers of female posters

agreed

Yes, 100% agreed on that, for sure.

Speaking as a white dude, we could use a lot more non-white dude voices here.

great discussions going on here
http://community.aarp.org/t5/Rock-N-Roll/bd-p/bg17

I can only imagine that to a young music nerd who found this site there would be a bizarro world feeling when they encountered widely held ILM opinions that barely seem to exist outside of here--like that Kanye's MBDMST3K is a pile of shit or that the 1975 made one of the best albums of 2016. I know I felt it when I first stumbled on this place and people were talking about how much Radio Disney and Ashley Simpson rocked.

― duped and used by my worst Miss U (President Keyes), Monday, February 6, 2017 2:20 PM (seven minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Totally! It seems like you better be the most forward thinking, refreshingly innovative genre transcending and/or avant artist (preferably not overly hyped either), that is unless you do mainstream pop well. If you aren't mainstream pop, you better be thinking outside the box in a sophisticated way to get ILX approval.

I know I felt it when I first stumbled on this place and people were talking about how much Radio Disney and Ashley Simpson rocked.

― duped and used by my worst Miss U (President Keyes), Monday, February 6, 2017 2:20 PM (seven minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

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Is that why the top 3 albums in our poll were art-soul, conscious hip-hop and art-rock xp

Oh, goddamn, you're taking me back with the Radio Disney. I listened to that nonstop back in '07 or so. It really was pretty much the best pop music outlet at the time.

Is that why the top 3 albums in our poll were art-soul, conscious hip-hop and art-rock xp

― I Am In Atlanta And Thug Is Young (imago), Monday, February 6, 2017 2:56 PM (one minute ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

"seems like" or "has seemed like" if you will

I massively enjoy all the music and other cultural things I'm exposed to through ILX, but I don't post that often because on the whole my voice here feels like this weird half-facsimile of itself and it just makes me feel so crushed. I feel like I'm offering around platters of meat in a room full of tenured professors, trying to convince them my new play is worthwhile, even though I don't believe it myself. And that's a difficult starting point. There's just so much information and I feel sick when I don't see all of it, which everyone else seems to be able to do effortlessly. You all are just too smart.

lol conscious hip hop

who gave them cpr

xp and then you realise the professors have just been making poop jokes for the last hour

Bowie was the conscious hip hop iirc

psst... ilx is bad because nearly all the good posters have left