Depeche Mode - Spirit

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If that's the actual tracklisting this is already shaping up to be the most dour album they've released since Black Celebration.

Ned Raggett, Sunday, 5 February 2017 15:27 (seven years ago) link

I think it's legit, tbh... there's pictures of the album art doing the rounds on FB (one of the pictures in the inlay is a picture of the band wielding hammers a la Construction Time Again) and you can just about make out a few of the titles ... several of the titles crop up in this Rolling Stone piece:

http://www.rollingstone.com/music/features/depeche-modes-dave-gahan-on-urgent-new-lp-bowie-influence-w462560

It'd seem like even though the title suggests the usual angel/devil/sin/knees angle, that this is going to be more of a "state of the world" record.

Working night & day, I tried to stay awake... (Turrican), Sunday, 5 February 2017 18:07 (seven years ago) link

The image of Dave screaming into the microphone perfectly illustrates what has killed my enjoyment of their music.

brotherlovesdub, Sunday, 5 February 2017 19:40 (seven years ago) link

Well to be fair, that's pretty much how he's been doing things live for decades now.

Ned Raggett, Sunday, 5 February 2017 19:48 (seven years ago) link

Since I quit buying their music after SOFAD, that lines up with my purchases.

brotherlovesdub, Sunday, 5 February 2017 21:52 (seven years ago) link

Just put on Playing the Angel this morning, which still remains up there with Violator. Puzzling to see them squander it all ever since.

licorice oratorio (baaderonixx), Monday, 6 February 2017 08:39 (seven years ago) link

I wish Playing The Angel wasn't mastered so loudly, and I still can't get on board with 'I Want It All', but I think the songwriting is mostly strong on it even if the production could have been better.

Working night & day, I tried to stay awake... (Turrican), Monday, 6 February 2017 11:03 (seven years ago) link

Yikes, pretty bad lead single, and similar production to the last three albums. Like Turrican, miss the days when every album had a different sound from the last - I could get excited about a new album as long as it went in a new direction.

Vinnie, Monday, 6 February 2017 16:15 (seven years ago) link

I wish they would just go full-on dad-dance and record vocals over the VCMG album

ornate orchestral arrangements (DJP), Monday, 6 February 2017 16:58 (seven years ago) link

Single is almost entirely devoid of redeeming features as far as I can hear.

Matt DC, Monday, 6 February 2017 17:14 (seven years ago) link

An at-times hairy video

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jsCR05oKROA

On a second listen, song's working much better for me.

Ned Raggett, Friday, 10 February 2017 05:01 (seven years ago) link

On a second listen, song's working much better for me.

Same.

Ⓓⓡ. (Johnny Fever), Friday, 10 February 2017 05:46 (seven years ago) link

I wish they would just go full-on dad-dance and record vocals over the VCMG album

― ornate orchestral arrangements (DJP), Monday, February 6, 2017 10:58 AM (four days ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

yessss

also I listened to some live stuff the other day and Martin's vocals are really good?

mh 😏, Friday, 10 February 2017 15:14 (seven years ago) link

I still think parts of this are really awkward musically, although really nothing is as awkward as the "dance break" during the "train is coming" bridge in the video.

ornate orchestral arrangements (DJP), Friday, 10 February 2017 15:48 (seven years ago) link

should I... watch the video? thinking after that comment, maybe not

mh 😏, Friday, 10 February 2017 15:49 (seven years ago) link

At least when The Cure did the video for "Why Can't I Be You???" I'm pretty sure they were all high/drunk.

ornate orchestral arrangements (DJP), Friday, 10 February 2017 15:49 (seven years ago) link

It's the first time Corbijn's done the lead video (as opposed to second or third ones) for a DM album in twenty years. (Still don't know why they ever bothered to use other people after he became their standby.)

Ned Raggett, Friday, 10 February 2017 16:12 (seven years ago) link

That said, the SOTU video run was pretty inspired. Exception that proves the rule.

Ned Raggett, Friday, 10 February 2017 16:13 (seven years ago) link

The videos for Wrong and Hole To Feed are flat-out incredible IMO

ornate orchestral arrangements (DJP), Friday, 10 February 2017 16:14 (seven years ago) link

And don't knock "Peace" either. That's pretty inspired but doesn't get as much attention.

Ned Raggett, Friday, 10 February 2017 16:16 (seven years ago) link

Wrong video a+

wasn't it one of the dudes from Liars in the video?

mh 😏, Friday, 10 February 2017 16:16 (seven years ago) link

I don't think I ever saw the video for "Peace"

ornate orchestral arrangements (DJP), Friday, 10 February 2017 16:28 (seven years ago) link

um okay WOW

ornate orchestral arrangements (DJP), Friday, 10 February 2017 16:32 (seven years ago) link

Told ya.

Ned Raggett, Friday, 10 February 2017 16:34 (seven years ago) link

wasn't it one of the dudes from Liars in the video?

Yup, their drummer.

Ned Raggett, Friday, 10 February 2017 16:35 (seven years ago) link

IIRC it had exactly the same vibe as the video for "No.1 Against the Rush"

licorice oratorio (baaderonixx), Friday, 10 February 2017 17:14 (seven years ago) link

Every time a new Depeche Mode album is on its way, I always find myself going on a huge DM listening spree. Last night it was Songs of Faith and Devotion, which at one point was my favourite DM record. I was struck by how much I prefer the second half of the LP to the first, and I can hear the flaws in the production these days. Still a great record, though.

Working night & day, I tried to stay awake... (Turrican), Friday, 10 February 2017 21:38 (seven years ago) link

American pre-presale, as it were:

https://presale.depechemode.com/

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 23 February 2017 01:33 (seven years ago) link

for trivia fans: at 49 mins, this is their shortest album since SOFAD.

a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Thursday, 23 February 2017 01:41 (seven years ago) link

not liking "Where's the Revolution" but have a bit of hope for the album.

Bee OK, Thursday, 23 February 2017 03:09 (seven years ago) link

loving the video.
the flatcaps : a reference to peaky blinders ?
i love how in the beardy/train part they are all totally out of sync with each other.
you just know they were taking the piss out of each other while doing that part.

mark e, Thursday, 23 February 2017 08:18 (seven years ago) link

Meanwhile, the biggest 'UH' in a while w/r/t Depeche

https://twitter.com/Olivianuzzi/status/834799915058470917

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 23 February 2017 16:36 (seven years ago) link

someone tell him about Martin

ornate orchestral arrangements (DJP), Thursday, 23 February 2017 16:37 (seven years ago) link

it took me a minute, there are just so many things about Martin that would make him hate Spencer, but... yeah

mh 😏, Thursday, 23 February 2017 16:42 (seven years ago) link

there's maybe a 20% chance fuckface has only heard/seen the video for "Where's the Revolution" and found it squared with his vague conception of depeche mode as an "edgy" band

a self-reinforcing downward spiral of male-centric indie (katherine), Thursday, 23 February 2017 17:01 (seven years ago) link

http://gothamist.com/2017/02/23/depeche_mode_richard_spencer.php

part of me is giggling that this statement happened but a larger part of me is just despairing at 2016-17

ornate orchestral arrangements (DJP), Thursday, 23 February 2017 18:00 (seven years ago) link

On top of everything else, that photo makes Dave look worryingly like Bono.

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 23 February 2017 18:09 (seven years ago) link

Track-by-track impression on the Quietus

re:

I wish they would just go full-on dad-dance and record vocals over the VCMG album

― ornate orchestral arrangements (DJP), Monday, February 6, 2017 10:58 AM (four days ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

there's this:

’Scum’

Could it be that Martin Gore’s collaboration with former colleague Vince Clarke under the banner of the criminally under-rated VCMG has some bearing on the Depeche Mode of 2017? The evidence contained here would suggest that it does but those expecting an out-and-out banger are going to be disappointed. The BPMs are still well within the mid-tempo range but this does sound like house music on steroids. The percussion is driven by the kind of handclaps and claves that’ll have you pining for the Roland TR-808 while vintage synths swoop in and out of the track like scavenging birds.

Overall, it comes across as a mid-tempo (dare I say plodding) affair, with "So Much Love" being the (upbeat) exception. Hmm.

willem, Tuesday, 28 February 2017 14:59 (seven years ago) link

If they've changed producers to essentially produce Delta Machine Pt. II then hm indeed.

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 28 February 2017 15:02 (seven years ago) link

Delta Machine had more uptempo numbers than what's being described here.

ornate orchestral arrangements (DJP), Tuesday, 28 February 2017 15:14 (seven years ago) link

True, but it feels slower in the memory.

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 28 February 2017 15:16 (seven years ago) link

A dab-worthy track and no mistake!

What does this mean in British English?

mh 😏, Tuesday, 28 February 2017 15:16 (seven years ago) link

That isn't British English, that is "White Person Who Just Learned About Dabbing" English

ornate orchestral arrangements (DJP), Tuesday, 28 February 2017 15:32 (seven years ago) link

I'm still in disbelief so I'm going to assume it's a confused reference to smoking dabs and listening to music

mh 😏, Tuesday, 28 February 2017 15:34 (seven years ago) link

Remix single out Friday:

https://www.discogs.com/Depeche-Mode-Wheres-The-Revolution-Remixes/release/9902627

Including Algiers! Could be good.

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 28 February 2017 19:48 (seven years ago) link

okay THAT is something I'm interested in

ornate orchestral arrangements (DJP), Tuesday, 28 February 2017 19:49 (seven years ago) link

IIRC Dave's the big Algiers fan in the band.

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 28 February 2017 19:50 (seven years ago) link

Christ, that Quietus preview makes the record sound like a bit of a slog.

Working night & day, I tried to stay awake... (Turrican), Tuesday, 28 February 2017 19:52 (seven years ago) link

I guess Ultra is a mid-paced record too, but that record that was made when the band were (arguably) still in their prime period and had Tim Simenon and co. chipping in with worthwhile ideas and production know-how.

Just thinking of the idea of a more consistently mid-paced version of Delta Machine makes me feel exhausted before I've even heard the thing.

Working night & day, I tried to stay awake... (Turrican), Tuesday, 28 February 2017 19:58 (seven years ago) link

I liked the version of "Heroes" because it was actually kind of spare and chill and gave my ears a break. Nice surprise for such an anthem.

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 11 October 2017 23:41 (six years ago) link

sorry I missed you! I did run into Chaki in the hallway though.

I liked the show. I was in the 100s sections, so back of the floor on the risers; tix were expensive as fuck, and the only downside to the night to me was the cost. 2 tix plus parking plus babysitting pushed this well over $400 total for the evening which I don't really like to think about as it wasn't a $400 experience for me. I was next to a really annoying superfan who bellowed the words to every song while filming the whole thing on his phone and passing his beer back and forth to his wife who was spilling over her seat into mine and held a smelly plate of nachos on her lap all night. So it was hard to get into the show. That said: this was the first time I'd seen DM ever, and they were pretty good. I could have done with fewer of the newer tracks and a few more older tracks (would have liked 'behind the wheel', 'policy of truth', 'precious'....I guess they never do blasphemous rumors anymore sadly) but that is probably just telling my age.

I still don't really accept these new guys in the band.

akm, Wednesday, 11 October 2017 23:51 (six years ago) link

but I'll also say: IMO the OMD show earlier this summer was way better.

akm, Wednesday, 11 October 2017 23:51 (six years ago) link

But oh, the Corbjin videos were wonderful; the dance to In Your Room; the animals; the drag queen. they should reissue those as official videos.

akm, Wednesday, 11 October 2017 23:55 (six years ago) link

glad to see other people saw the show and came to a lot of the same conclusions!

mh, Thursday, 12 October 2017 00:26 (six years ago) link

sorry I missed you! I did run into Chaki in the hallway though.

Yeah we ran into a couple of friends of Kate's along the way -- big venue, can't see everything!

2 tix plus parking plus babysitting pushed this well over $400 total for the evening which I don't really like to think about as it wasn't a $400 experience for me. I was next to a really annoying superfan who bellowed the words to every song while filming the whole thing on his phone and passing his beer back and forth to his wife who was spilling over her seat into mine and held a smelly plate of nachos on her lap all night.

Oh Jesus Christ. Yeah I'll take our slightly more sedate part of the crowd over that nightmare. (We were at around...I want to say $340 or something for our tickets. I suppose it's a perverse advantage we have no kids and we just took BART in.)

That said: this was the first time I'd seen DM ever, and they were pretty good. I could have done with fewer of the newer tracks and a few more older tracks (would have liked 'behind the wheel', 'policy of truth', 'precious'....I guess they never do blasphemous rumors anymore sadly) but that is probably just telling my age.

Ah well, better late than never! But yeah I count myself lucky to have seen the one last tour before they started bringing drumkits out in 1993. Inevitable dynamics change. They've done "Policy of Truth" a few times in recent tours but I can't recall the last time I saw them do "Behind the Wheel"...maybe the 98 Singles tour? Not sure! Yeah, "Blasphemous Rumours" and "People Are People" are long since put to bed.

I still don't really accept these new guys in the band.

Eh, it's like Darryl Jones with the Stones. You want to see the show, they're part of the package deal. Even if Fletch were more on Alan Wilder's level I have a feeling they'd have a second keyboardist since Martin plays guitar much more now, and Dave's said that when Christian joined on drums it really helped inspire him and give him a better feeling of performance, so hey. They're the band, they make the calls they do. It's still mostly a self-contained unit in studio but Dave regularly has Pete and Christian be his songwriting collaborators on his tracks, which gives them some royalty money along the way. (They played both of their Spirit collaborations last night too, "Cover Me" and "Poison Heart.")

I'll also say: IMO the OMD show earlier this summer was way better.

Different scope and audiences but: having never seen them myself until now, and getting a set from them that hit ALL the big hits so brilliantly top to bottom plus a good clutch of newer tracks, that was pretty damn awesome, no lie. Between that and the Poptone show it was a great early summer.

But oh, the Corbjin videos were wonderful; the dance to In Your Room; the animals; the drag queen. they should reissue those as official videos.

Yeah they've had so many concert exclusive films from Corbijn that it's a pity they haven't yet put together a full collection of those -- a ton of them have never surfaced properly, though some are tucked away on the live DVDs that have emerged. I always find it intriguing whenever he goes back and finds a new way to revisit a song's general theme or even just an idea that it suggests -- each of the various "Enjoy the Silence"s over the past twenty years has brought something new.

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 12 October 2017 00:48 (six years ago) link

I revisited Delta Machine last night because I wanted to hear it with fresh ears after getting into Spirit so heavily and I wanted to see if Spirit was really that good or I'd become more attuned to late period Depeche...

...Spirit is really that good.

more Allegro-like (Turrican), Thursday, 12 October 2017 17:14 (six years ago) link

I like all four of the last albums pretty evenly.

akm, Thursday, 12 October 2017 18:06 (six years ago) link

Spirit/Playing > the good half of Sounds of the Universe > Delta Machine > the bad half of Sounds of the Universe

Marcus Hiles Remains Steadfast About Planting Trees.jpg (DJP), Thursday, 12 October 2017 18:09 (six years ago) link

^ Yup, I'd agree with that!

more Allegro-like (Turrican), Thursday, 12 October 2017 18:28 (six years ago) link

As much as I like Playing the Angel, they really should have switched producers sooner... 'Cover Me' is just pure ear candy.

more Allegro-like (Turrican), Thursday, 12 October 2017 20:08 (six years ago) link

but so is Precious

akm, Thursday, 12 October 2017 21:37 (six years ago) link

Ultimately I tend to see the last four albums as of a piece -- there are subtle differences certainly, and Playing and Spirit have some of their most affecting moments lyrically thanks to, for lack of a better term, real world concerns, whether personal or much broader. But compared to how all the previous albums pretty clearly worked on a stake-out-its-own-aesthetics level time for time -- yes, even including Exciter -- then while Playing worked as an excellent recapitulation/reset towards certain strengths with room to move around within said scope, as well as introducing Dave as a songwriter, it's hard for me to hear that great a difference between it and the following three, even with a change in producer for this one. I don't really mind this, and individual songs stand out along the way, easy, so I tend to hear them all through that lens now. (It would make an interesting playlist.)

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 12 October 2017 21:51 (six years ago) link

(I should add this is all separate from ranking. If I had to rank, probably Playing, Spirit, SOTU then Delta but that's arguably more on execution of said aesthetic each time combined with notable strength of songs. I think I still like the SOTU singles more than Spirit's.)

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 12 October 2017 21:54 (six years ago) link

And the strongest Delta single to my mind is "Should Be Higher," which combined with a really dramatic Corbijn concert film made for a standout during the 2013 tour.

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 12 October 2017 21:55 (six years ago) link

“Should Be Higher” and “Secret to the End” are the best songs on Delta Machine

Marcus Hiles Remains Steadfast About Planting Trees.jpg (DJP), Friday, 13 October 2017 01:50 (six years ago) link

Spirit is not - as I was expecting - a change in sound as obvious as the one between Violator and Songs of Faith and Devotion or Ultra and Exciter, but what multiple headphone listens have pretty much confirmed to me (even more so since revisiting Delta Machine) is that this is way more fuller and richer sounding, with a far more exciting mix. On the surface, it seems like more of the same, but for me this is the nu-Depeche sound perfected and done as it should have been done in the first place.

more Allegro-like (Turrican), Friday, 13 October 2017 05:53 (six years ago) link

Nice little bonus for the year -- Null + Void is Kurt Uenala, who cowrote Dave's songs on Delta Machine like "Should Be Higher." New track of his featuring Mr. Gahan, who also appears in the video.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xUSJ4XK2UXg

Ned Raggett, Saturday, 14 October 2017 05:43 (six years ago) link

I wanna hear 'em mess around more with time signatures/meter changes like on 'You Move' ... apparently the story behind it was Gore sent Gahan the music as he didn't know what to do with it and Gahan saw it as a challenge to come up with a topline and lyric. It paid off!

more Allegro-like (Turrican), Saturday, 14 October 2017 06:46 (six years ago) link

three months pass...

I knew it was extreme, but, um, holy shit, have y’all seen Martin Gore’s home studio? pic.twitter.com/wFL21vCLI6

— Bruce Levenstein (@BruceLevenstein) January 26, 2018

groovypanda, Friday, 26 January 2018 21:11 (six years ago) link

I was bracing myself knowing it was going to be good, but holy shit... that's way good

mh, Friday, 26 January 2018 21:15 (six years ago) link

My first thought was that it was all just cool wallpaper, but ... no. It's like one of every module.

Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 27 January 2018 03:54 (six years ago) link

one year passes...

I heard 'You Move' on shuffle today and had to listen to the whole album. This is still one of their very best late-period records, IMO.

Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Sunday, 17 March 2019 20:23 (five years ago) link

four weeks pass...

Finally played this on my proper grown-up sound system and boy does it sound massive. I was initially put off by the first single and the reviews describing the album as a constant mid-tempo dirge, but it is unusually consistent and relentless. Generally DM likes to switch up between bangers and Gore confessionals, but this one is super cohesive. Love it

licorice oratorio (baaderonixx), Sunday, 14 April 2019 08:23 (five years ago) link


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