New York City is for sellouts

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I sure I had something funny to say worth saying.

x-post. : /

cozen (Cozen), Thursday, 19 February 2004 01:06 (twenty years ago) link

< /sub-RJG at best>

cozen (Cozen), Thursday, 19 February 2004 01:07 (twenty years ago) link

Steve didnt even address my point about watermarking his goddamn photos. Geez.

And if Labyrinth is "Australias largest ISP" I'll eat my hat. My several friends who work there will find that terribly hilarious actually.

Trayce (trayce), Thursday, 19 February 2004 01:09 (twenty years ago) link

whoa, dude has pictures of kmfdm. I assume Sascha and co. gave him permission.

bnw (bnw), Thursday, 19 February 2004 01:13 (twenty years ago) link

oops

bnw doing it again (bnw), Thursday, 19 February 2004 01:14 (twenty years ago) link

sub me?

RJG (RJG), Thursday, 19 February 2004 01:15 (twenty years ago) link

The thing is, the whole thing is hysterical. I've never seen anyone act like this, I mean a good general policy to have is to be at least vaguely polite about things. The other thing is that huge ass corporations like Disney have people who they pay to basically sit there and run through referral logs, which anyone with half a brain knows. So I'm assuming that such a learned legal authority as evil stevem knows that his bizarro threats are like the rantings of a crazy senile man in a rent-controlled building in NYC: weird, pointless, delusions of grandeur. They already know about it. And, obviously, don't give a shit. The guy just gave himself a ton of bad publicity on a site that is supposedly getting 1,200 hits per day, as he claims this thread is getting (!!! which seems, er, ludicrious but I guess Andrew would know that better than I), for no reason other than to be a curmudgeonly asshole who flip flops what he says on every other post.

I mean, good lord, Trayce OTM, as someone trying to get attention for your photography, do it in a positive fashion. I'd be pleased too, and am pleased when this happens to me. If the issue is bandwidth, which happened when I was at the newspaper, a polite email was generally all it took to stop anything from going on. I sure as hell wouldn't have gone on a website ranting maniacally about how I'm going to take down all and sundry supposed illiterates garnering myself and the publication I worked for a bunch of ill-will and ridicule.

It's just horrible fucking marketing and as a fan of popular shite, I can't condone that.

Allyzay, Thursday, 19 February 2004 01:15 (twenty years ago) link

[MOD NOTE: STOP LINKING PICS FROM THIS GUY'S SITE, YOU GIGANTIC ASSHAT; IT WASN'T FUNNY THE FIRST TIME]

dA oRiGeNaL sTeVEm!, Thursday, 19 February 2004 01:16 (twenty years ago) link

(I hope he appreciates my metaphor, it seems the only way he speaks)

Allyzay, Thursday, 19 February 2004 01:17 (twenty years ago) link

stop being a nobhead dA oRiGeNaL sTeVEm

can we just delete alt.stevem's pics and links to and just lock the thread now?

stevem (blueski), Thursday, 19 February 2004 01:17 (twenty years ago) link

but what about the sellouts in new york city?

RJG (RJG), Thursday, 19 February 2004 01:18 (twenty years ago) link

what about yancey?

RJG (RJG), Thursday, 19 February 2004 01:19 (twenty years ago) link

yeah, sub me.

cozen (Cozen), Thursday, 19 February 2004 01:19 (twenty years ago) link

probably x-post.

*acting cool like I don't already know*

cozen (Cozen), Thursday, 19 February 2004 01:19 (twenty years ago) link

"Also, since I've so clearly spelled out the unlawful activity (yeah, debate it in front of a civil judge if you want, I consider it unlawful and there is case history to back me up), when the complaints hit your provider etc etc, it'll be clear that you guys were notified, warned, and had ample opportunity to remedy the widespread copyright violations that are all over this thread -- and yet you took no action..."

The Copyrighted images are not being hosted on this server. No Copyright violations are occurring. You have no recourse here.

Andrew (enneff), Thursday, 19 February 2004 01:20 (twenty years ago) link

Also, I should probably mention that ILX is not a Keypoint Subscriber and thus not bound by that legal document.

Andrew (enneff), Thursday, 19 February 2004 01:25 (twenty years ago) link

*unimpressed by dA o. s., reads through Mr. Steve's tendentiousness*

There there, you just need some wawa and your nookie and your blankie.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 19 February 2004 01:28 (twenty years ago) link

[There's really no point in continuing to link this guy's images, considering he has a script in place which returns the http://wh3rd.net/ home image instead.]

dA oRiGeNaL sTeVEm!, Thursday, 19 February 2004 01:34 (twenty years ago) link

Actually, maybe da o. s. is Mr. Steve.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 19 February 2004 01:35 (twenty years ago) link

Mr Steven no one know who you are, no one cares, and you're not gonna fuck with any of us because you're a big twat. please go away.

Gear! (Gear!), Thursday, 19 February 2004 01:35 (twenty years ago) link

Haha Ned said "nookie".

Allyzay, Thursday, 19 February 2004 01:36 (twenty years ago) link

shooter.net is for sellouts and asshats

dean! (deangulberry), Thursday, 19 February 2004 01:53 (twenty years ago) link

three months pass...
Reviving for this great piece

Hot Times: The carping about summer in New York City has already begun so it's about time to begin the contrarian’s response—I love summer in the city.

Opera in the park, with bits of cheese and chilled Sancerre in plastic cups. Lingering lunches in shaded sidewalk bistros. Rooftop parties overserving beer out of garbage cans filled with ice and sand. Sunrise whiskeys with bartenders in the Rockaways. Girls in short skirts with beads of sweat on the small of their backs. Falling asleep on the lawn alongside the Hudson River. Aperitifs at A60. Midday movies to escape the humidity. Seared tuna salad and buffalo mozzarella and three pinot grigio lunches. The song of the summer. Pretending the subway doesn’t exist. Dancing at the Bulgarian bar until your clothes stick to your everything. Bloomsday breakfast Guinness. Poolside rooftop mojitos. Kids playing whiffle ball in the park. Rounds of lights and darks at McSorely’s. Backyard barbeques. Churchyard sangrias. Pints of lager outside the Ear. Steamy shagging. Belmont Stakes. Publishing girls drinking at noon on Fridays. Emerging from a perspiration and beer soaked dive bar into the crisp pre-dawn air. Summerstage beertent. Making out in taxis, aroused from the sudden application of air-conditioning. Shakespeare in the Park. Champagne breaknight breakfasts in Inwood Park. Salted Tecantes in a Chinatown Mexican restaurant. Smoking cigarettes in the Goodworld alley garden. Flirting with the daughters of firemen in Breezy point. Long days spent in dark bars. Chilled gazpacho. Watermelons soaked with vodka. Interns with improbably fashionable clothes and the spending habits of people who are spending other people’s money. Old flames. New infernos. Tar beach sunbathing. Avoiding parades with all day bruches that turn into all night bacchanals. Chasing the ghost of Dylan Thomas at the Whitehorse tavern. Fireworks from an Avenue B rooftop. Wilting while watching the Yankees. Midnight oysters at Milk & Honey.

Gear up, lads and lasses. We’re going in.

Elvis Telecom (Chris Barrus), Thursday, 17 June 2004 21:39 (nineteen years ago) link

Wilting while watching the Yankees.

BOO!

just about everything else is fine by me, tho.

hstencil (hstencil), Thursday, 17 June 2004 23:11 (nineteen years ago) link

Oh, Chris. Now you made me wanna go to NY. But I guess Stockholm, Sweden is quite good in summer as well.

TBA (TBA), Friday, 18 June 2004 00:11 (nineteen years ago) link

four months pass...
four months pass...
J0hn's post way upthread misses out on Iowa's great former tourism slogan that predated the "fields of opportunity" (groan) one. It used to be "A place to grow" and was accompanied by this clover-looking symbol that my parents insisted looked like a pot leaf from the right angle.

So, "Iowa: A place to grow (marijuana)"

BTW, D4rni3lle sold out and left Iowa, anyway.

mike h. (mike h.), Thursday, 10 March 2005 19:45 (nineteen years ago) link

three years pass...

Hello again. Sorry to email again so soon, but it seems the new phone number has already made it's way onto the internet.
When I opened Milk and Honey in January of 2000 it was not reservation only, and had no lock on the door. It was open to anyone who knew the address, and attracted a community of people with one thing in common: knowing how to drink and remain polite, to each other and the residents of Eldridge Street.

The barrage of constant write ups forced us to start running reservations, in order to prevent crowds outside from bothering our landlord (who lives directly upstairs.) Changing the number each time it was published worked for several years to keep the chain of word of mouth relatively strong.

Now, however, with the advent of blogging, there is no chance for that to work. Since the number change of a few weeks ago, my staff actually report an increase in first time customers, who have evidently never heard that it was a quiet bar, merely that it was a trendy one. The landlord has given us his first noise complaints in almost 9 years of business, all regarding the conversation of smokers outside or people exiting loudly.

Over the years our "first call, first serve" policy, while being fair on the face of it, I now realize was quite unfair to our regulars. The people were awake at 9 AM to send in the earliest text message and people who quietly exit the bar at 2 AM seem seldom to be the same people. In an effort to get back the small, like-minded community that we had in the beginning (and regain the quiet that we need to get our year-by-year lease renewed,) I am taking steps to convert Milk and Honey into a private social club.

This process will take over a year, involving the granting of a Social Club Charter by New York State.

In the meantime, we will adopt a half measure that allows us to remain within the law. If membership in such a program interests you, read on. If not, for the next year or so, reservations will still be available on [REDACTED].

M&H Regular Program

Four of our six tables will be allocated to our regulars, who may make an advance reservation, call twenty minutes prior, or just stop by without calling. Regulars will be given a key to the front door. If there are no seats available, you may lock up the next table, and go to White Star or another nearby bar and we will call you when the table is ready. There will be no standing room, and no more advance wait list.

Cocktails will be priced for regulars and their guests at $9, Regulars may bring up to 3 guests., and the key is non transferrable. There are three types of key available. A Standard one, which is $300 a year plus tax. ($325) To renew the membership at the same rate, the regular must have attended at least 10 weekdays the previous year, defined as Sunday through Wednesday. Everyone wants to come during prime time, but without consistent weekday business we will fail.

An Unrestricted key can be used as seldom as you like, and is 3000 a year, with tax $3250. If you have more money than time, this is for you. The Unrestricted key in no way has any advantage in service over a Regular Key. Tables are allocated first come or call, first serve. It is merely that we need each of the 250 keyholders to contribute their share into the business, one way or the other.

Lastly, an Industry key is available for people in the restaurant business. This key has no minimum visits, costs the same as a Standard key and is only valid after 1 AM. If an Industry key holder wishes to come before 1 AM on they must make a reservation, through the normal channel, for one of the other two tables, and will receive no preference in the reservation book.

The program will go into effect the first of November. Payment is by check to "M&H Concierge Services, inc". I will be at White Star, 21 Essex Street between Hester and Canal from 7-9pm starting Thursday, signing people up until we have reached 250 Standard key holders. I would like to meet each key holder face to face., and look forward to reconnecting with some old friends.

Sasha Petraske
14 October 2008

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metametadata (n/a), Friday, 17 October 2008 14:44 (fifteen years ago) link

the initial post on this thread is so fucking otm

Mr. Que, Friday, 17 October 2008 14:47 (fifteen years ago) link

i moved to new york so i could go to milk and honey

max, Friday, 17 October 2008 14:48 (fifteen years ago) link

its not true that there are hundreds of great cities in the us

joe the plumber (ice crӕm), Friday, 17 October 2008 14:49 (fifteen years ago) link

THERE IS ONLY ONE LOL!

joe the plumber (ice crӕm), Friday, 17 October 2008 14:50 (fifteen years ago) link

It ain't nothin' but a concrete jungle with people packed like sardines
Where everybody's tryin' to live beyond their means
Where all the natives hurry and scurry too and fro
And like a fleas on a puppy dog they got no place to go.

I wouldn't live in New York City if they gave me the whole dang town
Talk about a bummer it's the biggest one around
Sodom and Gommorah was tame to what I found
I wouldn't live in New York City if they gave me the whole dang town.

Well, I ain't seen the sunshine since the day that I arrived
'Cause brother I've been busy a-tryin' to survive
Nobody knows you've been here till you're six feet under ground
Than you become a statistic if they remember to write you down.

I wouldn't live in New York City if they gave me the whole dang town
Talk about a bummer it's the biggest one around
Sodom and Gommorah was tame to what I found
I wouldn't live in New York City if they gave me the whole dang town...

Mr. Que, Friday, 17 October 2008 14:50 (fifteen years ago) link

FU U JEALOUS!

joe the plumber (ice crӕm), Friday, 17 October 2008 14:51 (fifteen years ago) link

i def. don't think there are "hundreds" of great cities, BTW

Mr. Que, Friday, 17 October 2008 14:51 (fifteen years ago) link

is this thread the earliest known challop on ilx?

metametadata (n/a), Friday, 17 October 2008 14:51 (fifteen years ago) link

what are the great cities in the us besides new york

max, Friday, 17 October 2008 14:51 (fifteen years ago) link

oh they're all great

metametadata (n/a), Friday, 17 October 2008 14:52 (fifteen years ago) link

plz tell me where to sell out.

(max, come to ILB FAP Sat nite)

Dr Morbius, Friday, 17 October 2008 14:52 (fifteen years ago) link

funny story: earliest known challop is actually ilm's first thread: Indie Rock: What's Going On?

max, Friday, 17 October 2008 14:52 (fifteen years ago) link

morbs i got ur email but i got concert tix that night

max, Friday, 17 October 2008 14:53 (fifteen years ago) link

but q u said "the initial post on this thread is so fucking otm"

see thats what i hate abt non new yorkers theyre so imprecise

joe the plumber (ice crӕm), Friday, 17 October 2008 14:53 (fifteen years ago) link

and ugly and smelly

joe the plumber (ice crӕm), Friday, 17 October 2008 14:53 (fifteen years ago) link

and dumb obv

joe the plumber (ice crӕm), Friday, 17 October 2008 14:53 (fifteen years ago) link

yah but initial post also says

OK, that's hyperbole.

Mr. Que, Friday, 17 October 2008 14:54 (fifteen years ago) link

YOU ARE HYPERBOLE FOOL

joe the plumber (ice crӕm), Friday, 17 October 2008 14:54 (fifteen years ago) link

i never get uppity when someone sez dc sux

Mr. Que, Friday, 17 October 2008 14:55 (fifteen years ago) link

perhaps wikipedia can answer this important question

The City of New York, most often called New York City, is the most populous city in the United States, in a metropolitan area that ranks among the world's most-populous urban areas. It is a leading global city, exerting a powerful influence over worldwide commerce, finance, culture, and entertainment. The city is also an important center for international affairs, hosting the United Nations headquarters.
Located on the Atlantic coast of the Northeastern United States, the city consists of five distinct boroughs: The Bronx, Brooklyn, Manhattan, Queens, and Staten Island. It is the most densely populated major city in the United States, with an estimated 8,274,527 people occupying just under 305 square miles (790 km2). The New York metropolitan area's population is also the nation's highest, estimated at 19,750,000 people over 6,720 square miles (17,400 km2) in three states.
New York is largely unique among American cities for its high use of mass transit, and the overall density and diversity of its population. In 2005, nearly 170 languages were spoken in the city and 36% of its population was born outside the United States. The city is sometimes referred to as "The City That Never Sleeps" due to its extensive 24-hour subway system and constant bustling of traffic and people, while other nicknames include Gotham and the Big Apple.
Founded as a commercial trading post by the Dutch in 1624, it served as the capital of the United States from 1785 until 1790, and has been the nation's largest city since 1790. The Statue of Liberty greeted millions of immigrants as they came to America in the late 19th and early 20th centuries. Wall Street, in Lower Manhattan, has been a dominant global financial center since World War II and is home to the New York Stock Exchange. Today, the city has many renowned landmarks and neighborhoods that are world famous. The city has been home to several of the tallest buildings in the world, including the Empire State Building and the twin towers of the former World Trade Center.
New York is the birthplace of many cultural movements, including the Harlem Renaissance in literature and visual art, abstract expressionism (also known as the New York School) in painting, and hip hop, punk, salsa, disco and Tin Pan Alley in music. It is also the home of Broadway theater.

of course, if you're uncomfortable being packed like sardines, it may not be the place for you

gabbneb, Friday, 17 October 2008 14:55 (fifteen years ago) link


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