C/D -- Charlie Kaufman

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Tracey Hand (tracerhand), Monday, 8 May 2006 14:42 (seventeen years ago) link

i like adaptation too. esp the ending.

See, for the last 20 mins I was all I GET IT AWREADY.

The first 20 mins of the Barris movie are astonishing -- big ups to Rockwell and Clooney -- then it just sorta flops around.

Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Monday, 8 May 2006 14:52 (seventeen years ago) link

i liked adaptation the best. i always kind of wish that his movies are better than they are though. cuz i like to root for people with crazy imaginations in hollywood. they always feel a little unfinished or something. which is weird cuz they are all so thought out and circuitous.

scott seward (scott seward), Monday, 8 May 2006 14:55 (seventeen years ago) link

i think kaufman was v disappointed with 'confessions'.

the Enrique who acts like some kind of good taste gestapo (Enrique), Monday, 8 May 2006 14:57 (seventeen years ago) link

Thank you Tracey. That is awesome!

JoseMaria (JoseMaria), Monday, 8 May 2006 15:02 (seventeen years ago) link

i'm also not a big fan of how malkovich, eternal sunshine, and adaptation look either.

scott seward (scott seward), Monday, 8 May 2006 15:02 (seventeen years ago) link

but that's just me.

scott seward (scott seward), Monday, 8 May 2006 15:03 (seventeen years ago) link

malkovich looks pretty good for what it is, and adaptation has the sparse feel of the type of new yorker piece its taken from (or a mcsweeneys page, or a margaret atwood dust jacket). in trailers etc eternal sunshine looked alternately bleak & 90s seattle twee but w/o any real actual world to grasp onto (i hate gondrys videos too)

-+-+-+++- (ooo), Monday, 8 May 2006 15:06 (seventeen years ago) link

I don't think Adaptation and Eternal Sunshine should be played off against each other the way they are in this thread. They're both great movies! It's not a zero-sum game.

Adaptation really merits repeated viewing, too. crazy brilliant.

horseshoe (horseshoe), Monday, 8 May 2006 15:06 (seventeen years ago) link

malkovich was just way too dark for me. as in: i had trouble actually seeing what was going on at times.

scott seward (scott seward), Monday, 8 May 2006 15:10 (seventeen years ago) link

i had similar misgivings about sunshine, ethan, but when i saw it i was very impressed - it was much much funnier than i was expecting!

Tracey Hand (tracerhand), Monday, 8 May 2006 15:20 (seventeen years ago) link

well it DOES boast noted funnyman david cross

-+-+-+++- (ooo), Monday, 8 May 2006 15:22 (seventeen years ago) link

id like charlie kaufman to write an emma thompson vehicle

-+-+-+++- (ooo), Monday, 8 May 2006 15:24 (seventeen years ago) link

Eternal Sunshine is really quite a sweet film! Plus there's Tom Wilkinson. There's never any dullness when Tom Wilkinson's on screen.

David Orton (scarlet), Monday, 8 May 2006 15:30 (seventeen years ago) link

i don't even remember david cross! i must have blanked him out.

Tracey Hand (tracerhand), Monday, 8 May 2006 15:39 (seventeen years ago) link

David Cross is the male half of Jim Carrey's friends who are a couple. he's surprisingly inoffensive.

horseshoe (horseshoe), Monday, 8 May 2006 15:42 (seventeen years ago) link

you bastards, i thought i'd got rid of that memory for good!

Tracey Hand (tracerhand), Monday, 8 May 2006 15:44 (seventeen years ago) link

Malkovich is really ugly, it reminds me of Groundhog's Day, all muddy and gray like the cinematographer was passed out drunk somewhere. At least, unlike GD, it wasn't shot like a sitcom.

BJM revolves around a really interesting idea. Its Metaness is secondary.
I have a problem with this statement, because while it may revolve around a really interesting idea, once you see or hear that idea it's like OK, that's cool, now what? And there's nothing there. A movie has to be better than its synopsis (or gimmick) for me to care.

Eternal Sunshine is as meta and formalist as either of the other ones, but that nakedly emo bullshit core gives me a reason to want to see it again.

milo z (mlp), Monday, 8 May 2006 20:07 (seventeen years ago) link

The best part of David Cross in Eternal Sunshine is that he's:
1. barely noticeable
2. speaking non-sequiturs 90% of the time.

mike h. (mike h.), Monday, 8 May 2006 20:28 (seventeen years ago) link

I despised Adaptation in its first run. This has soured my appreciation of Kaufman's work (tho' I like Eternal Sunshine lots).

I personally love his first two films for daring to be so meta and formal in an age of formulaic blockbusters

It's no stretch for any screenwriter or director with half a brain to be meta. Gimme a formulaic blockbuster any day: at least the stars are prettier.

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn (Alfred Soto), Monday, 8 May 2006 20:48 (seventeen years ago) link

five years pass...

new project: Steve Carell as a screenwriter, Jack Black as his film blogger nemesis.

http://www.awardsdaily.com/2011/10/about-that-new-charlie-kaufman-screenplay-frank-or-francis/

incredibly middlebrow (Dr Morbius), Sunday, 2 October 2011 17:33 (twelve years ago) link

seven months pass...

Okay, yeah, I'm 100% on board with that.

Quiet Desperation, LLC (Deric W. Haircare), Tuesday, 22 May 2012 17:57 (eleven years ago) link

one year passes...

^well, what happened with this?

New TV pilot:

http://www.deadline.com/2014/01/john-hawkes-michael-cera-to-star-in-charlie-kaufmans-fx-comedy-pilot/

eclectic husbandry (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 15 January 2014 17:36 (ten years ago) link

Okay, yeah, I'm at least 92% on board with that.

Yes, Yes, Of Course, My American Friend! Ah Ha Ha Ha! (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 15 January 2014 17:46 (ten years ago) link

one year passes...

maybe more appropriate for a spike jonze thread though

on entre O.K. on sort K.O. (man alive), Wednesday, 13 January 2016 21:38 (eight years ago) link

four years pass...

Anyone read his novel?

A White, White Gay (cryptosicko), Sunday, 26 July 2020 18:49 (three years ago) link

“ B. Rosenberger Rosenberg, neurotic and underappreciated film critic (failed academic, filmmaker, paramour, shoe salesman who sleeps in a sock drawer)”

Pass.

Donald Trump Also Sucks, Of Course (milo z), Sunday, 26 July 2020 18:52 (three years ago) link

No but it is being aggressively advertised to me on various platforms

Rishi don’t lose my voucher (wins), Sunday, 26 July 2020 18:54 (three years ago) link

one month passes...

Is there any talk around here about his new movie on Netflix?

I’m only about 2/3 through and had to take a break. But holy shit. It’s kind of incredible.

circa1916, Sunday, 6 September 2020 02:39 (three years ago) link

curious even though i hated anomalisa

mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Sunday, 6 September 2020 02:47 (three years ago) link

same on both counts

unpaid intern at the darvo institute (Simon H.), Sunday, 6 September 2020 03:08 (three years ago) link

Anyone read his novel?

I did. It’s ridiculous and annoying and brilliant and beautiful. I missed it when it was done.

Cherish, Sunday, 6 September 2020 04:03 (three years ago) link

I really disliked Anomalisa too fwiw.

This kinda became a different thing in the last 1/3 or so and I’m not sure how a feel about the turn, but the first chunk of this is pretty incredible. Don’t think I’ve felt or thought this many things simultaneously moment to moment in a film. Really masterful.

circa1916, Sunday, 6 September 2020 06:00 (three years ago) link

Total sucker for Kaufman and can't wait to see this. Somebody start a I'm Thinking of Ending Things thread!

life is beauitul (rip van wanko), Sunday, 6 September 2020 06:01 (three years ago) link

Watched last night. I was pretty stoned, which helped, I think, but I'm not sure I was convinced by what he does at the end.

akm, Sunday, 6 September 2020 15:42 (three years ago) link

Yep, same. But I already want to watch this again, and that says something considering how bleak and uncomfortable it is.

circa1916, Sunday, 6 September 2020 17:39 (three years ago) link

Really loved it

rascal clobber (jim in vancouver), Sunday, 6 September 2020 18:41 (three years ago) link

Found this completely insufferable. Think the Variety review is if anything not harsh enough https://variety.com/2020/film/reviews/im-thinking-of-ending-things-review-charlie-kaufman-jessie-buckley-jesse-plemons-1234748508/

Piedie Gimbel, Sunday, 6 September 2020 18:45 (three years ago) link

That’s an incredibly facile and surface read of the movie. Like there are so many other things happening beneath the surface that aren’t acknowledged at all.

circa1916, Sunday, 6 September 2020 19:07 (three years ago) link

“a bad-news “Twilight Zone” episode that isn’t telling difficult truths; it’s just a Debbie Downer dud”

c’mon

circa1916, Sunday, 6 September 2020 19:09 (three years ago) link

“In the sheep pen, a couple of lambs have died and are frozen solid, which inspires Jake to tell a lovely story about pigs who got eaten alive by maggots. I think it’s supposed to be a metaphor. (Life is like a pig eaten by maggots — you never know what you’re gonna get!)”

circa1916, Sunday, 6 September 2020 19:12 (three years ago) link

I’m interested to read some actual thoughtful swipes at this, but that Gleiberman review is terrible.

circa1916, Sunday, 6 September 2020 19:15 (three years ago) link

Real dunce shit

rascal clobber (jim in vancouver), Sunday, 6 September 2020 19:48 (three years ago) link

Like if you see this as a “bummer town sad sack movie about the impossibility of romantic relationships... and then it gets SURREAL” were you watching this shit over the top of your phone? There is a world of things about communication and relating, internal lives against external, hidden histories, shame and reckoning with the past, this play with the audience over sympathies and feelings about characters, the humiliation and horror of aging, the drifting away and changes of loved ones aging, relating to the world and creating yourself through the ideas of others, peace and solace found in fantasy. To say nothing of the fact that this couple might be some fusion of a grander self or maybe some fragment of the janitor’s psyche or whatever.

Just a ton of shit to chew on that that stupid review doesn’t even care to acknowledge. It’s hardly subtext for Christ’s sake.

circa1916, Sunday, 6 September 2020 19:57 (three years ago) link

Also, it’s legitimately laugh out loud funny at points.

circa1916, Sunday, 6 September 2020 19:59 (three years ago) link

Sounds like he wants CK minus the cynicism and navel-gazery which leaves...

life is beauitul (rip van wanko), Sunday, 6 September 2020 20:10 (three years ago) link

He thought Anomalisa was great though. Easily the worst thing he’s done and knocked my appreciation for him down a few notches. This was a solid correction.

circa1916, Sunday, 6 September 2020 20:17 (three years ago) link


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