10(+) architects I have been thinking about

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And the verdict is in on the Javits Center expansion!

"We're concerned" - Mark Schienberg, president of the Greater New York Dealers Association
"No one is terribly enthusiastic about this plan" - Senator Charles Schumer
"The design will lower productivity and increase costs substantially" - John F. O'Connell Jr., exec. VP of Freeman
"fatally flawed" - Robert Boyle, former chairman of the Javits operating corporation
"They're doing what they can with the money they have, but it's going to result in something second-rate." - Anna Levin, member of an advisory panel for the Javits Center

Brian Miller (Brian Miller), Wednesday, 5 April 2006 12:17 (eighteen years ago) link

five months pass...
The Freitag shop in Zurich by spillmann.echsle - made entirely from freight containers

http://www.freitag.ch/___shops/zurich/pictures/shopbilder_ZH.jpg

jed_ (jed), Monday, 18 September 2006 22:41 (seventeen years ago) link

Savage!

Love the Roger Lee.

Kv_nol (Kv_nol), Tuesday, 19 September 2006 08:18 (seventeen years ago) link

There are so many pretty buildings on this thread.

Are there fewer interesting or good-looking things being built today than 30 years ago?

Dan I. (Dan I.), Tuesday, 19 September 2006 09:03 (seventeen years ago) link

in general

Dan I. (Dan I.), Tuesday, 19 September 2006 09:04 (seventeen years ago) link

There are far more good looking and interesting things being built today than 30 years ago! That was a dark dark time for architecture. As much as I hate starchitect-driven signature sculpture (Gehry, Libeskind, Calatrava), the late 70's rise of Postmodernism and Deconstructivism were far worse. Also, new building materials and technology are much better today.

Brian Miller (Brian Miller), Tuesday, 19 September 2006 12:03 (seventeen years ago) link

Brian Miller OTM - although postmodernism in architecture didn't really kick in 'til the mid 80s, i think? very OTM on Gehry, Libeskind, Calatrava. Calatrava has finesse and it is very impressive, even if i don't like it too much. Gehry is the worst, completely superficial. sheds coated in curvy silver sheeting - his buildings completely lack movement inside. it's depressing.

jed_ (jed), Tuesday, 19 September 2006 12:16 (seventeen years ago) link

Both Postmodernism and Deconstructivism hadn't really kicked in building by 1976 (haha Decon still hasn't), but both were very active in theory by then. Moore's Piazza d'Italia was completed in 1978. It was sort of a similar situation as the 1990's, when there was a lot of theoretical blob architecture but it hadn't really been built yet.

Brian Miller (Brian Miller), Tuesday, 19 September 2006 12:43 (seventeen years ago) link

LOL @ the Seattle Library being the #1 GIS result for "postmodern architecture" and the #2 result for "deconstructivism".

Brian Miller (Brian Miller), Tuesday, 19 September 2006 12:55 (seventeen years ago) link

Gehry is the worst, completely superficial. sheds coated in curvy silver sheeting

have you seen any of his many buildings that don't look like that?

gabbneb (gabbneb), Tuesday, 19 September 2006 13:00 (seventeen years ago) link

yes i have, i think i've probably seen all of his buildings. i don't think he has much integrity in any of the styles he's worked through. whether it's the more recent curvey stuff or the post earthquake looking stuff he did about 10-15 years ago, it's always just random shapes held up by a ton of steel with basic spaces underneath all that gloss.

jed_ (jed), Tuesday, 19 September 2006 13:12 (seventeen years ago) link

i'm no architect and i only vaguely recall the stuff i saw/thought when i saw his gugg retro a few years ago (summer of '01?), but i thought the interior spaces and exterior skin were often separated in his work to allow them to be given over to/designed specifically for their particular interior or exterior purposes (and sometimes to allow for private exterior space?). sometimes the purpose of the skin might in fact be 'gloss,' but i'm not sure that's its only or primary purpose in many of his works.

gabbneb (gabbneb), Tuesday, 19 September 2006 13:42 (seventeen years ago) link

The Yamasaki stuff from Oberlin College is pretty much hated by all the students. I liked it, though the brutalist concrete Mudd Library was the best. The conservatory and King Building were meant to look like white picket fences around the central park of Oberlin. Thing about the photo gabb posted, to the left where the green is was a pond, however they built the electronic music studios below and the pond kept leeking in, so they emptied it out. That was pretty depressing.

here's Mudd Library

http://www.oberlin.edu/library/tour/images-new/mudd%20-%20front%20b.jpg

Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Tuesday, 19 September 2006 14:19 (seventeen years ago) link

that looks like Boston City Hall wedged into the Air and Space Museum

gabbneb (gabbneb), Tuesday, 19 September 2006 14:22 (seventeen years ago) link

or a giant harmonica

gabbneb (gabbneb), Tuesday, 19 September 2006 14:22 (seventeen years ago) link

i think the link missing from my list above was the New England Holocaust Memorial?

http://www.jewishtribune.ca/tribune/images/clip_image002_110.jpg

gabbneb (gabbneb), Tuesday, 19 September 2006 14:26 (seventeen years ago) link

(the image properties say "bluffton.edu" but that might not mean anything.)

A teacher at Bluffton college has a web site that's a repository for art and architectural images, and it's really very good. It does span milleniums so it is not very complete on recent works.

Bluffton

nickn (nickn), Tuesday, 19 September 2006 15:25 (seventeen years ago) link

I am obviously a reactionary fule, but I really can't seem to understand why almost every building shown on this thread is not horrid and ugly. Do people really like this stuff? I always wonder how any "modern" (i.e. contemporary) architecture gets built, because I don't think I know a single person who likes the stuff. I always assumed it was some sort of architectural conspiracy, but maybe I am wrong?

askance johnson (sdownes), Tuesday, 19 September 2006 15:38 (seventeen years ago) link

you are wrong.

Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Tuesday, 19 September 2006 15:51 (seventeen years ago) link

In Bartlesville, Oklahoma you can stay in Wright's Price Tower - it's been partially converted into a hotel. Better to go before the planned Zaha Hadid addition goes up next door.

-- Brian Miller

There's a decent bar up there, too, with pretty good views.

You've got plenty of time before the Hadid goes up. I don't think they'll ever get the money raised.

Stephen X (Stephen X), Tuesday, 19 September 2006 15:55 (seventeen years ago) link

You've got plenty of time before the Hadid goes up. I don't think they'll ever get the money raised.

Fundraising (or lack thereof) is the greatest weapon we have against starchitecture.

Brian Miller (Brian Miller), Tuesday, 19 September 2006 16:12 (seventeen years ago) link

We will starve them of the oxygen of luxury facial scrubs.

Stephen X (Stephen X), Tuesday, 19 September 2006 16:29 (seventeen years ago) link

Dan beat me to it, but I was going to say that the Yamasaki pic is the Oberlin Conservatory.

Also, Yamasaki has never really forgiven Oberlin for placing inner offices without windows into the structure-- he wanted conservatory profs to share large office spaces, but that doesn't really make much sense when disciplines are so different.

For the record, I love the Yamasaki stuff. The Con looks like a Space Palace to me. In fact, we had a kick-ass dance party last year that was themed 'Spacial Palatial,' with pictures of the Con all around my friends' apartment and people dressed in wacky outer-space royalty wear.

Also, the only reason to like Mudd is its echoic powers.

trees (treesessplode), Tuesday, 19 September 2006 17:01 (seventeen years ago) link

PS-- whoever said that most people they know hate modern & contemporary architecture: get some friends who know what teh fuck they're talking about. The argument is stupid and you will never win.

Also, I have been totally obsessed with Tadao Ando for the past couple months. Anyone else like his work?


trees (treesessplode), Tuesday, 19 September 2006 17:02 (seventeen years ago) link

I like Ando, but I feel like he did Morimoto NY for the money even more than Morimoto did! His Fort Worth museum looks really stunning, when he works with water it keeps his concrete fetish from being too boring.

Brian Miller (Brian Miller), Tuesday, 19 September 2006 17:17 (seventeen years ago) link

Can anyone of you more informed-sounding people suggest a good general book on modern architecture? I'm forever ooing and ahing at nice new buildings whenever I'm in big cities but I tend not to know who made them or have any idea where the ideas come from.

struttin' with some barbecue (jimnaseum), Tuesday, 19 September 2006 18:21 (seventeen years ago) link

If you're looking for a general overview/reference guide to contemporary architecture, Taschen's "ARCHITECTURE NOW! 4" (obv. should have been called "NOW THAT'S WHAT I CALL ARCHITECTURE! VOLUME 4") is a great value and very wide ranging. Not much on the theory side of things but most contemporary buildings are much better in photos than in theory.

If you really want something to bow your coffee table legs there's the Phaidon Atlas of Contemporary World Architecture.

Brian Miller (Brian Miller), Tuesday, 19 September 2006 18:39 (seventeen years ago) link

Thanks. Good suggestions. Bank balance will dictate that I go for the former.

struttin' with some barbecue (jimnaseum), Tuesday, 19 September 2006 18:58 (seventeen years ago) link

For sheer history & information about movements and progression, Kenneth Frampton's Modern Architecture: A Critical History is a good start, and used quite often in university classes.

trees (treesessplode), Wednesday, 20 September 2006 17:17 (seventeen years ago) link

three weeks pass...
more please!

^@^ (map), Friday, 13 October 2006 00:53 (seventeen years ago) link

Wow! That's pretty impressive.

Where was that non-Euclidean architecture thread?

Negative Mental Attitude (kate), Monday, 23 October 2006 10:55 (seventeen years ago) link

you or you and some others always type "non-Euclidean"

RJG (RJG), Monday, 23 October 2006 11:01 (seventeen years ago) link

That is the mathematical term for geometry based on curved surfaces.

Negative Mental Attitude (kate), Monday, 23 October 2006 11:03 (seventeen years ago) link

in the world

RJG (RJG), Monday, 23 October 2006 11:07 (seventeen years ago) link

What a fun bulding! What is it exactly?

Kv_nol (Kv_nol), Monday, 23 October 2006 11:07 (seventeen years ago) link

it's an auditorium at a university to the north of budapest

RJG (RJG), Monday, 23 October 2006 11:10 (seventeen years ago) link

i hate to say, i don't like it. i do like the drawing tho.

jed_ (jed), Monday, 23 October 2006 11:13 (seventeen years ago) link

Thanks RJG.

Kv_nol (Kv_nol), Monday, 23 October 2006 13:54 (seventeen years ago) link

LOVE the Stephenaeum! I'll have to check out this Makovecz. I'm big into the idea of taking the current wave of eccentric blobby forms and trying to tie it down with some sort of rule-based classical system...in turn undermining both the rules AND the eccentricity. Much more readable and much more fun than Gehry.

Not yet mentioned in this thread is Erick Van Egeraat, who I don't like very much, but I'm writing a paper about him so I've certainly been thinking about him. Web isn't providing great images but hey...

http://www.pixelcreation.fr/diaporama/architecture_in/10.jpg
City Hall, Aalphen aan der Rijn

http://www.vividvormgeving.nl/foto%27s/egeraat04.jpg
Popstage - Concert venue in Breda

Doctor Casino (Doctor Casino), Monday, 23 October 2006 14:08 (seventeen years ago) link

three months pass...
this place:

http://www.lot-ek.com/Images/jm-01.jpg

is currently for sale:

http://www.curbed.com/archives/2007/02/01/thats_rather_uh_something.php

Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Saturday, 3 February 2007 17:37 (seventeen years ago) link

sorry, rent...and it's only 7 grand a month!

Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Saturday, 3 February 2007 17:37 (seventeen years ago) link

three weeks pass...
Bjarke Ingels Group (with the unforgettable URL of Big.Dk). As inescapably post-Rem as MVRDV, with a similar bent towards massive urban projects with very clear macro-geometry (and just-as-clear aberrations within that geometry). And a lot of whimsy. And absolutely gorgeous models. You'll have to click the link, I can't seem to put my hands on any decent linkable jpgs.

Momoyo Kaijima of Atelier Bow-Wow spoke last week at my school and I gotta say I thought a lot of their stuff was pretty groovy - their research work focuses on tiny, crammed-in lots in Japan and their built work tends to be an answer to that context....

http://www.bow-wow.jp/profile_e/2006/HouseTower/HouseTower01.jpg
http://www.bow-wow.jp/profile_e/2006/HouseTower/HouseTower03.jpg
House Tower

(Missing from the website as far as I can tell are a number of completed projects she presented at the lecture, including the delightful "Furni-Cycle" - a set of bicycles with stuff welded to the back of them, such that if you get all the bikes together they can back up towards each other and create an outdoor cafe table-n-chairs arrangement....)

Doctor Casino, Sunday, 25 February 2007 06:48 (seventeen years ago) link

it got announced last week that seattle's getting a norman foster. v v excited.

jergincito, Sunday, 25 February 2007 14:51 (seventeen years ago) link

There was a big DEDICATION for the new city hall downtown. I asked the guy with the comically oversized scissors if Frank Gehry designed it. He said he didn't know. Unfunny joke wasted!

Abbott, Sunday, 25 February 2007 18:21 (seventeen years ago) link

it would probably be quicker to list the cities without a major foster building in progress.

jed_, Sunday, 25 February 2007 18:24 (seventeen years ago) link

two months pass...
oh yeah, just round the corner, that is.

admrl, Monday, 7 May 2007 21:30 (sixteen years ago) link


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