Chipotle sucks.

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Dee is so totally OTM.

People seriously need to get over their lard fear.

Elvis Telecom (Chris Barrus), Friday, 3 September 2004 22:30 (nineteen years ago) link

Additionally any restaurant that touts its "authenticity" is to be viewed with suspicion.

Elvis Telecom (Chris Barrus), Friday, 3 September 2004 22:32 (nineteen years ago) link

Mexicans are the third largest hispanic community in NYC.

stockholm cindy (Jody Beth Rosen), Friday, 3 September 2004 22:32 (nineteen years ago) link

(a city with eight million people and a LOT of hispanics)

stockholm cindy (Jody Beth Rosen), Friday, 3 September 2004 22:33 (nineteen years ago) link

I don't dig on swine, that's all.
I came close to becoming a muslim and that's the only part that stuck.

tremendoidorangeblazer, Friday, 3 September 2004 22:41 (nineteen years ago) link

and Mexican Town, Detroit?

Kim (Kim), Friday, 3 September 2004 22:45 (nineteen years ago) link

There are large populations of Mexicans in both urban (Minneapolis) and rural (Willmar) Minnesota.

Dan I. (Dan I.), Friday, 3 September 2004 22:55 (nineteen years ago) link

uh, not for nothing, but i sort of can't believe you guys are shocked, SHOCKED, that burritos are calorie-laden. i mean, jeez, the ones at burritoville usually have more than a pound of food inside!!

maura (maura), Saturday, 4 September 2004 00:49 (nineteen years ago) link

Takeout food in not being healthy, shocka. Seriously, if you dont know whats in it (cos you didn't make it), it is bound to vbe overprocessed and tarted up with fats and sugars, if only to extend shelflife.

I mostly make my own food. I admit I love my cream and cheese but at least I know how much and where its gone.

Trayce (trayce), Saturday, 4 September 2004 00:58 (nineteen years ago) link

Chipotle chicken and black bean, no Sour Cream, no Cheese, 1/2 medium corn, 1/2 hot, plus lechuga-- whew, that's love...

Wahoo Combo 2 blackened fish extra salsa and rice-- that's lust.

I don't really think of them as Mexican food though.

Chipotle's first ever joint is about two blocks from the law building at DU, so I get that a lot more frequently than Wahoos. No complaints.

Hunter (Hunter), Saturday, 4 September 2004 01:20 (nineteen years ago) link

The old PBS slogan IS right -- you CAN learn something every day. ;)

(Thanks for the OTM-ing, Chris. You're probably as big an expert on this cuisine as I am.)

Mexicans are the third largest hispanic community in NYC.

See, I was ALMOST going to mention NYC, but thought otherwise because I didn't think the Mexican-American representation was going to be all that much. (I know there are a TON of Latinos in NYC, but I always think they're mostly of Dominican, Puerto Rican, Cuban, or South American extraction, so it's kinda cool to know the makeup of this ethnic category is changing in America's largest city. Thanks for the information!)

And I didn't know Detroit or Minneapolis/Wilmar had heavy concentrations of Chicanos. Okay. This must mean that the obvious, i.e. the Latino populations in MI and MN are pretty much concentrated in the large cities and surrounding suburbs of the two states. (And if I were ever to live in Detroit or Minneapolis and felt homesick, I'd be able to satiate that homesickness temporarily through the power of food.)

(BTW, we just recently got our first three local Chipotle Grills in. There's one close to the house I'd been wanting to try out, out of pure curiosity. Though not anytime soon, since I had a filling bowl of fideo and beans for dinner tonight.)

Many Coloured Halo (Dee the Lurker), Saturday, 4 September 2004 02:15 (nineteen years ago) link

Wahoo Combo 2 blackened fish extra salsa and rice-- that's lust.

YOU ARE A WISE MAN.

I don't really think of them as Mexican food though.

It's a classically American story, I think -- son of immigrants becomes a surfer dude, parties down with friends in Baja, gets hooked on fish tacos and wonders what he can do about it. Wing Lam, hero.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Saturday, 4 September 2004 02:28 (nineteen years ago) link

A Chipotle just opened here and I tried their barbacoa burrito. It was okay; it tasted like a burrito. Probably won't be going back any time soon though, esp. since I'm within walking distance of really outstanding burritos (for the same price).

stockholm cindy (Jody Beth Rosen), Saturday, 4 September 2004 06:59 (nineteen years ago) link

There's a fantastic little mexican joint (cheap, delicious, with a great salsa bar) right down the street from a Chipotle near here, and yet the Chipotle is usually pretty busy while the other place seems to be hanging on by a thread. I think it's mainly because Chipotle is dressed up nicer. "This place looks like it doesn't even *need* my business."

oops (Oops), Saturday, 4 September 2004 07:11 (nineteen years ago) link

I...kind of like Chipotle.

adam. (nordicskilla), Saturday, 4 September 2004 07:30 (nineteen years ago) link

Adam, you have no excuse. The bay area has the best burritos in the world.

mikef (mfleming), Saturday, 4 September 2004 09:35 (nineteen years ago) link

This admission from Adam makes me want to claim that *I* was the one who stole the passport. Ban this man from reentry! (Note: I love you.)

Ned Raggett (Ned), Saturday, 4 September 2004 12:47 (nineteen years ago) link

Dee, there is indeed a huge Mexican presence in Minneapolis but only in the last seven or so years have the restaurants founded by new arrivals been a force in local dining choices of underpaid hipsters, who are equally enamored of the Vietnamese diners.

suzy (suzy), Saturday, 4 September 2004 13:02 (nineteen years ago) link

I don't think McDonald's ever owned more than 10% of Chipotle. I also think the post upthread was correct in that McDonald's has since divested of what little it owned as part of its effort to strengthen its traditional hamburgers and fries brand.

Personally, I like Chipotle. I don't see how people can quibble about notions of authenticy anyway, when, if memory serves, burritos aren't even Mexican. I always thought their origin was American, by the border.

Josh in Chicago (Josh in Chicago), Saturday, 4 September 2004 16:13 (nineteen years ago) link

From Ilan Stavans' and Lalo Alcaraz's brilliant book Latino USA, which should be required reading by everyone -- page 97:

"In the 1950's, spicy food began to appear in the mainstream American diet for the first time. Salsa, burritos, nachoes, tequila, tacos....Many of these dishes were Tex-Mex inventions. In Mexico, only people in Durango knew what a burrito was. It was a locals-only treat."

Ned Raggett (Ned), Saturday, 4 September 2004 16:17 (nineteen years ago) link

i can believe that - my grandfather used to refer to EVERY mexican dish as a 'taco'.

cinniblount (James Blount), Saturday, 4 September 2004 16:24 (nineteen years ago) link

except tamales for some reason

cinniblount (James Blount), Saturday, 4 September 2004 16:24 (nineteen years ago) link

For him maybe tamales were soft tacos.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Saturday, 4 September 2004 16:34 (nineteen years ago) link

wait wait wait I wouldn't actively seek out Chipotle, but I wouldn't kick it out of bed.

Spencer totally owns this thread, btw. Brilliant.

adam. (nordicskilla), Saturday, 4 September 2004 17:27 (nineteen years ago) link

authentic Mexican-American vs authentic Mexican

oops (Oops), Saturday, 4 September 2004 23:14 (nineteen years ago) link

two months pass...
I work next to one :(

adam... (nordicskilla), Wednesday, 17 November 2004 04:16 (nineteen years ago) link

Chipotle?

Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Wednesday, 17 November 2004 04:32 (nineteen years ago) link

yes.

adam... (nordicskilla), Wednesday, 17 November 2004 04:33 (nineteen years ago) link

Everyone in my office eats it for lunch...and they are so skinny.

adam... (nordicskilla), Wednesday, 17 November 2004 04:33 (nineteen years ago) link

The L is silent (heh).

The one in Brooklyn Heights is about the only decent, cheap food to be had on weekends... And their guac is very good.

Aaron W (Aaron W), Wednesday, 17 November 2004 04:34 (nineteen years ago) link

It's that or Subway!

adam... (nordicskilla), Wednesday, 17 November 2004 04:34 (nineteen years ago) link

The one in Brooklyn Heights is about the only decent, cheap food to be had on weekends

not true! how about a salad or sandwich from garden of eden or lassen & hennigs? also, my little pizzeria on court street makes a serious slice.

hockey family (Jody Beth Rosen), Wednesday, 17 November 2004 04:36 (nineteen years ago) link

i like chipotle...it's all the food you need for a whole day!

M@tt He1geson (Matt Helgeson), Wednesday, 17 November 2004 04:40 (nineteen years ago) link

i ate lunch at kapadokya (the turkish resto on montague st) today. lentil soup, a pisterma appetizer, and a basket of hot pita bread = $9. very good, too.

hockey family (Jody Beth Rosen), Wednesday, 17 November 2004 04:40 (nineteen years ago) link

i really don't like it when ppl say chip-ol-tee.

g--ff (gcannon), Wednesday, 17 November 2004 04:44 (nineteen years ago) link

same here.

hockey family (Jody Beth Rosen), Wednesday, 17 November 2004 04:54 (nineteen years ago) link

reminds me of an architecture teacher i once had who kept pronouncing "cupola" as "cupelo" (like "tupelo").

hockey family (Jody Beth Rosen), Wednesday, 17 November 2004 04:56 (nineteen years ago) link

The one in Brooklyn Heights is about the only decent, cheap food to be had on weekends

what about Grand Canyon Burgers! Those are great hamburgers! I used to go to the one in park slope, then I moved to cobble hill. The day I discovered there was another on montague, was a great day.

Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Wednesday, 17 November 2004 05:31 (nineteen years ago) link

This is based on 2002 census data, BTW.
Hoo, haa, haa. Like the census is even close to being right about the U.S.' hispanic population. Every decent sized town in the country has a sizable Hispanic community and several resturants catering to that population. I absolutlely state the Boise Idaho and Jackson Wyoming have bona fide authentic Mexican resturants. My girl is a Latino Outreach director at out local library and we ain't fell off no turnip truck yet.

Speedy (Speedy Gonzalas), Wednesday, 17 November 2004 08:40 (nineteen years ago) link

hungry brooklynites: the damascus bakery on atlantic avenue has delicious and cheap veg/spinach/beef/potato/lamb pies, and pistachio baklava that is truly spectacular.

lauren (laurenp), Wednesday, 17 November 2004 11:53 (nineteen years ago) link

i'm meh on the grand canyon burgers. they're just a little too rare in the middle. i don't like the bun either.

lauren otm re damascus. i've been going there forever.

hockey family (Jody Beth Rosen), Wednesday, 17 November 2004 12:09 (nineteen years ago) link

man - chipotle is the fucking best. i work 200 feet from the most profitable chipotle in the world, no lie.

peter smith (plsmith), Wednesday, 17 November 2004 15:46 (nineteen years ago) link

that's crazy talk re: grand canyon.

damascus's tahini bread is a tasty treat.

Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Wednesday, 17 November 2004 16:28 (nineteen years ago) link

but so rich that i'm getting a stomachace just thinking about it.

lauren (laurenp), Wednesday, 17 November 2004 16:30 (nineteen years ago) link

was anyone else as surprised as i was (ie, totally stunned) to find out how bad tahini is for you? like, you would be better off eating lard (literally).

lauren (laurenp), Wednesday, 17 November 2004 16:31 (nineteen years ago) link

Really????

adam... (nordicskilla), Wednesday, 17 November 2004 16:33 (nineteen years ago) link

*Adam starts puking up all the tahini he's ever eaten*

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 17 November 2004 16:33 (nineteen years ago) link

omg yes, adam. it's like pure fat. shocking, right? sesame seeds, who knew.

lauren (laurenp), Wednesday, 17 November 2004 16:35 (nineteen years ago) link

It's that or Subway!

-- adam...

bullshit, there are like 5000 places to eat around there! your coworkers are lazy!

kyle (akmonday), Wednesday, 17 November 2004 16:40 (nineteen years ago) link

xpost re tahini: Aw man, don't ruin my day :(

jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 17 November 2004 16:40 (nineteen years ago) link


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