Cat Power/ Chan Marshall- genius or fruitloop?

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holy shit no!!!

flappy bird, Thursday, 26 January 2017 18:48 (seven years ago) link

chan :(

flappy bird, Thursday, 26 January 2017 18:48 (seven years ago) link

omg have you followed her on twitter, i did for a week or so

rip van wanko, Thursday, 26 January 2017 19:19 (seven years ago) link

nope... fruitloop?

flappy bird, Thursday, 26 January 2017 19:19 (seven years ago) link

This (upthread) was clearly not watched enough. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ubigmaH2AOE

dlp9001, Friday, 27 January 2017 00:18 (seven years ago) link

She's being funny come on.

Or is she?

dance cum rituals (Moka), Friday, 27 January 2017 07:19 (seven years ago) link

doubt it

flappy bird, Friday, 27 January 2017 07:23 (seven years ago) link

one year passes...

Genius

flappy bird, Monday, 16 April 2018 05:17 (six years ago) link

what kind of question is this, geniuses usually are fruitloops

thots and players (rip van wanko), Monday, 16 April 2018 16:50 (six years ago) link

Otm

after party for the apocalypse (Ross), Monday, 16 April 2018 18:07 (six years ago) link

wish she'd release a new album.

akm, Monday, 16 April 2018 18:41 (six years ago) link

What would the community think and moon pix are such gorgeous albums... very vulnerable and spare and her voice is what I consider the perfect lullaby voice. For a while back in the mid 90s she was the coolest cat for me.

✖✖✖ (Moka), Tuesday, 24 April 2018 04:46 (five years ago) link

She kind of lost me after moon pix though... there were some good songs here and there but there was some sort of innocence lost after moon pix... maybe mine maybe hers ... at any rate I lost that connection to what she did afterwards. Those two still make me fall in love with her when I listen though.

✖✖✖ (Moka), Tuesday, 24 April 2018 04:50 (five years ago) link

Her cover of sea of love is so nice

after party for the apocalypse (Ross), Tuesday, 24 April 2018 04:50 (five years ago) link

those two are my favorite too

flappy bird, Tuesday, 24 April 2018 04:56 (five years ago) link

oh how time flies...

flappy bird, Tuesday, 24 April 2018 04:56 (five years ago) link

I dont know anyone in real life who knows her music and that makes me feel so alienated. I think they are pretty much classic albums and they were an important part of my teenage years so I want someone to tell me how much they love them and shaped them too but I’m all alone on this one. I have resigned myself into thinking I’m the only person in this city who even owns those albums.

✖✖✖ (Moka), Tuesday, 24 April 2018 05:19 (five years ago) link

no way those records are too popular there is someone out there

flappy bird, Tuesday, 24 April 2018 05:22 (five years ago) link

Not in the middle of mexico it seems :(

✖✖✖ (Moka), Tuesday, 24 April 2018 05:33 (five years ago) link

I might start printing out posters that read “have you heard me?” all over the city with the album covers and my phone number. Maybe there’s a soulmate nearby.

✖✖✖ (Moka), Tuesday, 24 April 2018 05:35 (five years ago) link

it's a good idea

flappy bird, Tuesday, 24 April 2018 05:36 (five years ago) link

hey Moka FWIW those records shaped me a lot too, with ya there

after party for the apocalypse (Ross), Tuesday, 24 April 2018 06:08 (five years ago) link

Those are the two, it’s true

alomar lines, Tuesday, 24 April 2018 06:10 (five years ago) link

You Are Free is also a very good record.

in twelve parts (lamonti), Tuesday, 24 April 2018 10:15 (five years ago) link

I really love her piano playing where she does a triad in the left hand followed by the same triad an octave up in the right hand on alternating weak and strong beats. It's really effective.

in twelve parts (lamonti), Tuesday, 24 April 2018 10:16 (five years ago) link

any of you know joanne robertson? she's pretty much a copycat but she's put out some great songs

ogmor, Tuesday, 24 April 2018 10:27 (five years ago) link

Moka, you have a friend in Montreal if you ever visit!

I feel that way too about the power of Moon Pix to cement friendships.
https://www.theguardian.com/music/musicblog/2011/oct/07/moon-pix-cat-power

sean gramophone, Tuesday, 24 April 2018 13:38 (five years ago) link

i love moon pix as well. you are free is great but moon pix is just The One. during the time that i was getting really into her music, our local cd store was awful and never had what would the community think, and napster didn't quite exist yet, so unfortunately i never really connected with it in the same way.

Karl Malone, Tuesday, 24 April 2018 15:12 (five years ago) link

Thank you Ross and Sean!

Sean your experience with the album mirrors so much my own. If you change the age to 16 years and the location from canada to mexico I might as well felt like I was reading myself! Thanks for making me feel slightly less alienated... also your description about her late career is spot on. She’s in a happier place nowadays it seems and how can I demand she goes back to breaking my heart. Back then I just wanted her and myself to live through the melancholy and we have... most of time.

✖✖✖ (Moka), Tuesday, 24 April 2018 16:15 (five years ago) link

I love all her stuff. I guess I fall in the genius camp, because I find even her failures fascinating.

campreverb, Tuesday, 24 April 2018 16:21 (five years ago) link

seems amazing and wonderful to me now that cat power releasing a video of her ambling through songs in front of some bushes for 40 mins felt like a significant cultural event to me at the time

ogmor, Tuesday, 24 April 2018 16:26 (five years ago) link

You are not alone, Moka. My fave album of 1998 is Moon Pix. I discovered her on the tour for that album. She was mesmerizing.
https://musik.antville.org/stories/1133632/

Ich bin kein Berliner (alex in mainhattan), Wednesday, 25 April 2018 05:10 (five years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jv7UTCGD4hI

flappy bird, Wednesday, 25 April 2018 05:26 (five years ago) link

Alex: tuff choice between Mezzanine and Moon Pix for 1998... I love them both for very different reasons.

Flappy: oh wow she’s way too drunk or drugged in that performance. There’s still something endearing about her singing in that state but I would hate to be a musician trying to keep up.

✖✖✖ (Moka), Wednesday, 25 April 2018 06:44 (five years ago) link

i straight up love the redo of "metal heart" that she recorded 10 years after the original
her return from the abyss of self-loathing/depression/substance abuse was really inspiring to me and that song distills the essence of what i like about her and recontextualizes a song that used to remind me of sad/bad times into an anthem. i think she is a genius.

weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Wednesday, 25 April 2018 12:48 (five years ago) link

Never really liked her live. She expected too much from a scenester type crowd that would show up.
In the mid 90s, along with Will Oldham, I remember thinking she was ushering in some new kind of dissonant blues.
A top 50 artist for me. Love a bunch of her albums:

Myra Lee (1996)
What Would The Community Think? (1996)
Moon Pix (1998)
The Covers Record (2000)
You Are Free (2003)
The Greatest (2006)

POX:
We All Die
Still In Love
Good Clean Fun
Nude as the News
American Flag
Colors and the KIds
(I Can't Get No) Satisfaction
I Don't Blame You
Shaking Paper
Living Proof

nicky lo-fi, Wednesday, 25 April 2018 13:32 (five years ago) link

One of my most uncomfortable concert experiences was a somewhat recent double bill of Cat Power and Rufus Wainwright, who were supposed to perform in that order but got switched because Chan showed up late, and a handful of biddies in the front row did nothing but loudly complain throughout the Cat Power set about how awful and depressing it all was. We could hear every word so I assumed she could, too. I felt so bad for her but she kept going like a trouper, and it was a great set.

.38 Special K - 'Hold On Muesli' (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 25 April 2018 13:39 (five years ago) link

one of the most influential american vocalists of the 21st century. for better or worse. worse. but that's not her fault.

scott seward, Wednesday, 25 April 2018 13:49 (five years ago) link

still love this one. i don't know her stuff that well, but this one i love. maybe it reminds me of mary margaret a little.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kx6F1jesJ5o

scott seward, Wednesday, 25 April 2018 13:59 (five years ago) link

also was she the first person to do an indie rock video with normal/average people/friends doing modern dance/exercise moves in a video. if so she is truly a pioneer.

scott seward, Wednesday, 25 April 2018 14:01 (five years ago) link

one of the most influential american vocalists of the 21st century. for better or worse. worse. but that's not her fault.

― scott seward

truth bomb

I love her, I would probably still go see her live if I got the chance

need to hear that Metal Heart remake!

sleeve, Wednesday, 25 April 2018 14:04 (five years ago) link

if you want to see her live you should go to australia, wikipedia says:

"In 2018, Marshall will perform a Moon Pix 20th anniversary concert at Sydney Opera House. It will feature album collaborators Jim White and Mick Turner.[54]"

i saw her three times in frankfurt, once on that moon pix tour where she and her band were amazing. then in a kind of living room where she was so and so and then in a 2003 concert which she fucked up totally.

Ich bin kein Berliner (alex in mainhattan), Wednesday, 25 April 2018 14:15 (five years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aGP3KirGqsY

jim white!!

weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Wednesday, 25 April 2018 14:15 (five years ago) link

i love how much more confident she is

weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Wednesday, 25 April 2018 14:16 (five years ago) link

Ogmor - Is joanne Robertson the same artist who put out a record with dean blunt last year? If so, she’s good!

after party for the apocalypse (Ross), Wednesday, 25 April 2018 15:36 (five years ago) link

You are free is my favourite cat power record overall

after party for the apocalypse (Ross), Wednesday, 25 April 2018 15:37 (five years ago) link

Oh never seen that performance before! Why is that not the version on the jukebox album! Jim White improvising those drums send the performance to another place.

✖✖✖ (Moka), Wednesday, 25 April 2018 15:42 (five years ago) link

I think one of her “recent” songs I liked was The Greatest she nailed those performances:

https://youtu.be/0KtrQ5nWl7w

She likes that green shirt a lot btw... I think I’ve seen her on different perfomances with that exact same look... some years apart like in Letterman performing “metal heart”

✖✖✖ (Moka), Wednesday, 25 April 2018 15:54 (five years ago) link

she looks really comfortable in that green shirt. i love seeing her happy and healthy and feeling free to be herself
she may have inspired a lot of imitators but she has always been very much herself, unreproducible

weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Wednesday, 25 April 2018 16:14 (five years ago) link

yes ross, same JR, I heard her through the dean blunt collaborations. I like everything she's put out but am especially fond of "dragg" from the lighter

this thread and the relistenings it's prompted have been a joy

ogmor, Wednesday, 25 April 2018 17:06 (five years ago) link

Good Song Exploder podcast about "Woman":

http://songexploder.net/cat-power

... (Eazy), Monday, 19 November 2018 19:52 (five years ago) link

she was completely amazing tonight in Oakland. Now I feel like I've slept on her live performances for the past few years. This was kind of beyond great.

akm, Wednesday, 21 November 2018 08:51 (five years ago) link

eight months pass...

Cat Power/ Chan Marshall- genius or fruitloop?

Coelacanth Green (Leee), Tuesday, 23 July 2019 16:56 (four years ago) link

one year passes...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nNoj4oXvQI8

Joe Biden Stan Account (milo z), Wednesday, 23 December 2020 08:19 (three years ago) link

that ending <3

stylish but illegal (Simon H.), Wednesday, 23 December 2020 13:05 (three years ago) link


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