Chapo Trap House and the rise of the dirtbag left

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I'm planning to do a Twin Peaks thing with a friend of mine who has written for Film Comment, MORE I CANNOT SAY

a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Wednesday, 18 January 2017 20:11 (seven years ago) link

Are you going to edit it yourself? Editing for me is the hardest part due to how much I detest my voice and speaking habits.

Also because all the shows I recorded were like 2 hours and change, and cutting that down to something decent and inserting relevant audio takes me something like 8-10 hours an episode.

THE SKURJ OF FAKE NEWS. (kingfish), Wednesday, 18 January 2017 20:14 (seven years ago) link

Yeah I'm gonna have to do all the work, cause my partner is way too busy with school etc to put in any extra time. I try to keep a pretty strict 60 min time limit for this reason.

a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Wednesday, 18 January 2017 20:15 (seven years ago) link

This ain't going away anytime soon, but as you have plenty of people still slinging " Berniebro" as it were a valid descriptor or insult, I would posit not being people who voted for Sanders in the primaries being the cause.
THE SKURJ OF FAKE NEWS. (kingfish), Wednesday, January 18, 2017 11:55 AM (ten minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I've never called anyone a Bernie Bro (I'm aware that's hurtful)but we can acknowledge both sides perpetuate this. Seems unreasonable not to. I mean just recently I had to see so many people seemingly way more outraged with Booker for voting against Bernie's amendment (despite voting for a similar one w tougher measures the same night) then they were about the GOP taking people' healthcare away, removing protection for pre-existing conditions, disassembling the C.H.I.P program etc the same night. Not to say there aren't unreasonably anti-Bernie Dems making extreme claims right now too.

Nerdstrom Poindexter, Wednesday, 18 January 2017 20:18 (seven years ago) link

It seems like every time I object to anything a democrat does, someone jumps in with "Why do you care more about that than x bad thing GOP is doing?" Who says I care "more" about it? I still care about it. No way I'm getting on board with a democrats-are-off-limits policy no matter who's in office. Also, can't help but think the response would be different if it were Joe Manchin instead of Cory Booker. Booker is both targeted and defended because he's seen as a contender for 2020. Some of us don't really think he's an ideal choice. Some people who do seem to think the strategy should be exactly what it was in 2016 -- shoot down anyone who disagrees because they're fucking up the plan.

the last famous person you were surprised to discover was actually (man alive), Wednesday, 18 January 2017 20:23 (seven years ago) link

I mean there's already starting to be this familiar attitude around Booker of "I, professional urban person who inherently knows 'electability' better than anyone else, have already determined that this is our guy for four years from now, so you'd better not tarnish him."

the last famous person you were surprised to discover was actually (man alive), Wednesday, 18 January 2017 20:24 (seven years ago) link

the gop taking people's healthcare away is a given. that's what the gop is for. democratic voters being outraged at the gop doesn't make them stop taking people's healthcare away. being outraged (not on twitter tho) at the clinton/booker wing of the dems for its constitutional inability to effectively oppose fascism has some glimmer of a chance of making them more effective.

difficult listening hour, Wednesday, 18 January 2017 20:29 (seven years ago) link

despite voting for a similar one w tougher measures the same night

I spotted what must have been an attempted debunking of this but no way I'm digging through the twitter archives to find it

a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Wednesday, 18 January 2017 20:30 (seven years ago) link

i agree w man alive that Dem party need to 'stress test' their candidates more. but there will be a lot riding on who the Bernie contingent will be willing to endorse or vote for in 2020, and who they will see as beyond the pale. after the last primary everyone's hoping for a good unifying candidate. so far the tone of anti-Booker stuff i've seen from left has suggested he won't be that

flopson, Wednesday, 18 January 2017 20:35 (seven years ago) link

I'm not particularly a fan of Booker or think he's a great candid choice either but (maybe I was the only one who saw this idk) certain people seemingly way more mad about that particular vote then the stripping of health care. That seems like taking primary grievance pretty far.

A lot of it seems like a reflex. This for example. The idea that HRC would have nominated someone just as bad as DeVos, like this is even a fair comparison.. Are Dems critical of Trump going to be consistently undercut by the left? https://twitter.com/baltimorematt/status/821533320383254528

Nerdstrom Poindexter, Wednesday, 18 January 2017 20:38 (seven years ago) link

(maybe I was the only one who saw this idk) certain people seemingly way more mad about that particular vote then the stripping of health care

This is dumb. Progressives are going to be more upset at people who claim to be on their side doing shit like Booker than they are at someone who doesn't make that claim.

Republicans gonna Republican - they're doing exactly what they said they were going to do - beyond a blanket "fuck them" (which I saw everywhere) there's not much reason for a progressive voice to go on about it, whereas the guy who's positioning himself to run in 2020 is going to get criticism for coming out of the gate doing the wrong thing.

Kiarostami bag (milo z), Wednesday, 18 January 2017 20:42 (seven years ago) link

Agree that it's better Booker is subject to those criticisms sooner than later. He should have just voted for Bernie's amendment since it was symbolic anyway

Nerdstrom Poindexter, Wednesday, 18 January 2017 20:43 (seven years ago) link

jfc that tweet

who is extremely unqualified to review this pop album (BradNelson), Wednesday, 18 January 2017 21:17 (seven years ago) link

that tweet is awesome, brad

Whiney G. Weingarten, Wednesday, 18 January 2017 21:27 (seven years ago) link

clean shot

Whiney G. Weingarten, Wednesday, 18 January 2017 21:28 (seven years ago) link

Jeet Boy, Jeet Girl

THE SKURJ OF FAKE NEWS. (kingfish), Wednesday, 18 January 2017 22:12 (seven years ago) link

effective ruling politics is not built on members of the ruling party voting for their "local interests" on national issues.

increasingly bonkers (rushomancy), Wednesday, 18 January 2017 22:16 (seven years ago) link

TBH, I was pretty amused that democrats lambasted Trump for picking the Hardees CEO for secretary of labor, and then the wikileaks email showed that Clinton was likely going to select Starbucks CEO Howard Schultz. Our fast food is more progressive than theirs I guess.

the last famous person you were surprised to discover was actually (man alive), Wednesday, 18 January 2017 22:34 (seven years ago) link

Yes, it is. Howard Schultz isn't perfect, but he's worlds better than Andrew Puzder. (and love how Mike Allen has become a go-to source when it serves an end)

by the light of the burning Citroën, Wednesday, 18 January 2017 22:42 (seven years ago) link

Starbucks is not fast food

(says the guy who can count the number of times he has been inside a Starbuck's on one hand)

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 18 January 2017 23:03 (seven years ago) link

Starbucks is totally fast food, come on.

Islamic State of Mind (jim in vancouver), Wednesday, 18 January 2017 23:08 (seven years ago) link

Yeah Bernie supporters aren't reliving the primary at all, that's only Hillary supporters. Now let's talk about these supposed "ghost cabinet" appointees to say "Hillary would have been bad too" while people who want to destroy government are being confirmed.

Nerdstrom Poindexter, Wednesday, 18 January 2017 23:15 (seven years ago) link

lol

Islamic State of Mind (jim in vancouver), Wednesday, 18 January 2017 23:29 (seven years ago) link

Our fast food is more progressive than theirs I guess.

I mean ... yes? Like, Starbucks has benefits packages for part-time employees while Carls Jr. is famous for violating laws mandating that employees get a tiny break during the day?

Guayaquil (eephus!), Wednesday, 18 January 2017 23:48 (seven years ago) link

the HRC ghost cabinet isnt about them being as low as Trump's, it's just an indicator that "Sanders is pushing her to the left" was Guess What?

Supercreditor (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 19 January 2017 01:22 (seven years ago) link

What?

lettered and hapful (symsymsym), Thursday, 19 January 2017 01:51 (seven years ago) link

it was bs

flappy bird, Thursday, 19 January 2017 01:55 (seven years ago) link

Guess Jeans?

THE SKURJ OF FAKE NEWS. (kingfish), Thursday, 19 January 2017 02:15 (seven years ago) link

so close
http://shop.nordstrom.com/s/richer-poorer-poindexter-socks/3159594

velko, Thursday, 19 January 2017 02:16 (seven years ago) link

Anyway back to Chapo, this radio play episode kind of sucks. Can't stay with it.

the last famous person you were surprised to discover was actually (man alive), Thursday, 19 January 2017 03:49 (seven years ago) link

Would've been better if they were actually into the game while folding in all the fan service.

Kiarostami bag (milo z), Thursday, 19 January 2017 03:51 (seven years ago) link

yeah i can't get through it

flappy bird, Thursday, 19 January 2017 04:03 (seven years ago) link

The Eminem bits may well have been the show's nadir.

Kiarostami bag (milo z), Thursday, 19 January 2017 04:49 (seven years ago) link

Enh, I liked this ep, but I'm a Lovecraft fan, and dug that they did something this dorky.

THE SKURJ OF FAKE NEWS. (kingfish), Thursday, 19 January 2017 07:35 (seven years ago) link

ok I did lol at "Go Miskatonic U! The fightin' squid!"

a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Thursday, 19 January 2017 11:58 (seven years ago) link

i thought matt's stoned-on-pizza voice was funny but that's p much all i got.

difficult listening hour, Thursday, 19 January 2017 15:07 (seven years ago) link

Maybe I need to give it more time, I only made it about 10 mins and there was something exhausting about it. It seemed like something that would be really funny and clever at a family gathering but not something I wanted to listen to on the radio.

the last famous person you were surprised to discover was actually (man alive), Thursday, 19 January 2017 15:09 (seven years ago) link

no it's definitely bad

adam, Thursday, 19 January 2017 15:12 (seven years ago) link

I went back and listened to the Freeway Ross episode that keeps being recommended, and while it eventually got pretty funny there were 15 minutes of boring shit-shooting at the beginning. Pretty standard for a Guys-in-a-living-room podcast. I can see how people can't hang with this.

duped and used by my worst Miss U (President Keyes), Thursday, 19 January 2017 15:26 (seven years ago) link

I also didn't know that half of that episode was a relatively sympathetic convo about Sean Hannity

duped and used by my worst Miss U (President Keyes), Thursday, 19 January 2017 15:27 (seven years ago) link

Yeah, when I recommend eps like that I usually remind people to stick through the shit-shooting at the beginning. After a while I think that stuff grows on you too, but at first I can see how it seems inert.

the last famous person you were surprised to discover was actually (man alive), Thursday, 19 January 2017 15:28 (seven years ago) link

I also didn't know that half of that episode was a relatively sympathetic convo about Sean Hannity

I'm sorry, what?

(The caption: “fine dining.”) (DJP), Thursday, 19 January 2017 15:30 (seven years ago) link

http://fair.org/wp-content/uploads/2017/01/SeanHannityFootball.png

not so hard to understand tbh, looks like a likeable guy imo

marcos, Thursday, 19 January 2017 15:33 (seven years ago) link

The only way it's relative sympathetic is that they're not just cursing his parentage for 20 mins. Getting into his sadsack need to dine at foofy NYC steakhouses while complaining about elites on the air as well as his compulsion to proof he's the alpha dog enough amongst his employees on an almost daily basis is just part of it. Not to mention his bragging about regular training sessions with Chuck Liddell.

THE SKURJ OF FAKE NEWS. (kingfish), Thursday, 19 January 2017 15:46 (seven years ago) link

eh, they favorably compare him to O'Reilly numerous times and say he'd be fun to go out drinking with. All the negative stuff was kind of a given.

duped and used by my worst Miss U (President Keyes), Thursday, 19 January 2017 16:09 (seven years ago) link

Well, yeah, comparing to Oreilly kinda tilts it a bit.

THE SKURJ OF FAKE NEWS. (kingfish), Thursday, 19 January 2017 17:09 (seven years ago) link

i don't fuck with roleplaying games or table-top stuff but i finally got thru the most recent one and it was good for what it was. obv would appreciate it more if i was a fan of those games. if y'all are following them on twitter, they're already in DC reporting on the Inauguration. psyched for their live show.. tmrw?

flappy bird, Thursday, 19 January 2017 18:59 (seven years ago) link

this rules, sorry if it's been posted already

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jvN464imtMQ

flappy bird, Friday, 20 January 2017 02:13 (seven years ago) link


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