Stanley Kubrick: Classic or Dud?

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the music takes it up a notch. I need to watch it again.

ogmor, Wednesday, 18 January 2017 16:32 (seven years ago) link

i think he cast them once he knew what he wanted to do (tho did Magee ever ham it up like he did in ACO? seems the singular result of maybe 70 takes). xp

Supercreditor (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 18 January 2017 16:32 (seven years ago) link

Magee also gives a pretty...florid...performance in Tales from the Crypt, and probably some of the other lower rent flicks he appeared in, though yeah, I think it's well known that SK generally favoured the larger than life takes out of the many he shot (definitely true w/ Nicholson in The Shining).

Bongo Herbert (Ward Fowler), Wednesday, 18 January 2017 16:43 (seven years ago) link

Magee does make a great show of being the blindest of the blind guys in that Crypt ep, yeah.

ILXorcist 2: The Heretic (Eric H.), Wednesday, 18 January 2017 16:49 (seven years ago) link

not to mention the first half of Full Metal Jacket is some of the funniest shit ever

frogbs, Wednesday, 18 January 2017 16:51 (seven years ago) link

Just ask Mary Jane Rottencrotch.

some sad trombone Twilight Zone shit (cryptosicko), Wednesday, 18 January 2017 16:54 (seven years ago) link

ten months pass...

some amazing stuff in the CC supps for Barry Lyndon, ie the editor on the limits of having ten takes for each line of an actor's dialogue, and the fact that some of the costumes were ACTUAL 18th-century waistcoats, military uniforms, etc.

ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Sunday, 3 December 2017 16:11 (six years ago) link

whoa

Squeaky Fromage (VegemiteGrrl), Sunday, 3 December 2017 16:16 (six years ago) link

also revealed: Ken Adam snuck SK onto the set of The Spy Who Loved Me to help him light a scene.

ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Monday, 4 December 2017 15:58 (six years ago) link

I think I've known that for a long time but I don't know how.

Alba, Monday, 4 December 2017 17:57 (six years ago) link

Poll needed

めんどくさかった (Matt #2), Monday, 4 December 2017 20:12 (six years ago) link

The center one, second from bottom was the one Cleo chose in Cleo from 5 to 7. I vote that one.

Fred Klinkenberg (Eric H.), Monday, 4 December 2017 20:14 (six years ago) link

A Hard Day's Fight

ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Monday, 4 December 2017 20:19 (six years ago) link

lmao

brimstead, Monday, 4 December 2017 21:35 (six years ago) link

hah is that a Freemasons hat?

AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Tuesday, 12 December 2017 22:00 (six years ago) link

four weeks pass...

Todd Alcott, who was familiar to me as a NYC performance monologist before he wrote Antz, has written a SK book, and here breaks down Barry Lyndon.

http://www.toddalcott.com/articles/kubrick

ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 10 January 2018 20:08 (six years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AbyclPOSpgc

Alex’s (Malcolm McDowell) long coat from Stanley Kubrick’s A
Clockwork Orange. This garment screen matches the scene where
Alex visited the record store and met two female companions.

The double-breasted coat is made of suede leather dyed purple with snakeskin pattern used for the lapels, pocket flaps, cuffs and the jacket buttons. The long, slim-fitting coat was designed by Milena Canonero, who designed for several of Kubrick’s films, and custom made specifically for McDowell in the role of Alex. This vintage coat displays some light marks near the hem on the rear. It remains otherwise in very good production-used condition. Dimensions: measures 52 cm (20 ½“) from armpit to armpit

£8,000-10,000

GOAT coat

AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Sunday, 14 January 2018 20:31 (six years ago) link

three months pass...

The most unexpected image in the Kubrick photos show pic.twitter.com/eiW5evHJ9I

— Vadim Rizov (@vrizov) May 12, 2018

the ignatius rock of ignorance (Dr Morbius), Saturday, 12 May 2018 01:58 (five years ago) link

Not sure why you'd be surprised. Lots of autists relate better with dogs and other animals.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DIFxxbBXsAA_Zmw.jpghttp://i.imgur.com/dGB320V.jpghttp://shortscriptgods.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/08/stanley-kubrick-dogs.jpg

Microtransgressions as a Business Model (Sanpaku), Saturday, 12 May 2018 02:10 (five years ago) link

also, the documentary about his longtime aide-de-camp Leon Vitali, Filmworker, opened in NYC today

the ignatius rock of ignorance (Dr Morbius), Saturday, 12 May 2018 02:21 (five years ago) link

one month passes...

This is a little gem.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TEt5uv7weXU

MaresNest, Saturday, 30 June 2018 17:11 (five years ago) link

Today to celebrate July 4th I'm sitting in the Kubrick archives and I just learned SK was seriously considering Gene Kelly for Jack D. Ripper. (He thought the role was "too small" and would rather play multiple parts).

— Peter Labuza (@labuzamovies) July 4, 2018

the ignatius rock of ignorance (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 5 July 2018 21:25 (five years ago) link

btw I leafed through this Taschen book on the unmade Napoleon last week, def worth if if you can spare the $70 listprice and want to look at shit like SJK's letter to his historical consultant asking about horse showing of the era, how people addressed each other, etc. Plus all the test costumes, and a draft of the script.

https://www.taschen.com/pages/en/catalogue/film/all/04973/facts.stanley_kubricks_napoleon_the_greatest_movie_never_made.htm

the ignatius rock of ignorance (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 5 July 2018 21:31 (five years ago) link

(I see looking at hidden posts that i am not the first)

the ignatius rock of ignorance (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 5 July 2018 21:33 (five years ago) link

I saw the Nolan print of 2001 today and yeah, it's good. Excellent experience to have at least once. The "journey beyond the infinite" benefits from the darker, refulgent colouring. There are lovely edit marks for scene ending top right, the screen is constantly flickering with light, and jumping with scratches on the film. It's a new thing.

glumdalclitch, Thursday, 5 July 2018 22:52 (five years ago) link

seeing the unrestored print in 2 weeks

a discovery:

https://www.theguardian.com/film/2018/jul/15/stanley-kubrick-lost-screenplay-burning-secret-found

the ignatius rock of ignorance (Dr Morbius), Sunday, 15 July 2018 16:17 (five years ago) link

Cool. "James Mason in Sue Lyon" tho, hmm

albvivertine, Sunday, 15 July 2018 16:51 (five years ago) link

Couldn't get into Filmmaker--felt like a really weird vanity project. It was news to me, though, that Leon Vitali also played lead orgy guy in Eyes Wide Shut.

http://phildellio.tripod.com/leon.png

clemenza, Wednesday, 18 July 2018 03:43 (five years ago) link

His name also pops up in the newspaper article Harford reads about the girl's drug overdose:

https://i.imgur.com/bKnAnfZ.png

I got this from this mind-boggling shot-by-shot analysis of EWS:

http://idyllopuspress.com/idyllopus/film/ews_toc.htm

the word dog doesn't bark (anagram), Wednesday, 18 July 2018 05:43 (five years ago) link

yikes, not sure i have a month to go through that site, but i was not aware there'd been a 1969 adaptation of Traumnovelle (ie before EWS).

the ignatius rock of ignorance (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 18 July 2018 07:16 (five years ago) link

Alba jogged my memory on the 2001 thread, I meant to post this last week, a much longer cut of the Japanese guy's set visit during the Shining - with some nice stuff- that I linked upthread.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fVlXbS0SNqk

MaresNest, Thursday, 19 July 2018 20:14 (five years ago) link

Xp: there *was* a Kubrick approved video transfer of 2001, the Criterion laserdisc done in 1988.

The Big Picture: 2001 on Video, Thomas E. Brown.

the same transfer, done in 1988 by the Voyager companies' legendary Maria Groumbos Palazzola. This was transferred from a 35mm "anamorphic" source (at the time of this transfer there was no 65mm/70mm telecine equipment in existence). The transfer was done in association with Full Metal Jacket's editor, Martin Hunter and "dailies" of the transfer were sent to Stanley Kubrick in England. Kubrick faxed back comments and Palazzola has written that he required 6 runs through with changes before he would approve it. The transfer was "state of the art" for 1988, with good image detail, fairly low grain and good fidelity to Kubrick's detailed color scheme.

Screen caps are scarce, but they don't have the yellow cast of Nolan's "restoration" (or at least that trailer).

My best guess is that late 60s 70mm prints had color timing which compensated for the higher color temperature of carbon arc projection lamps, while the "restoration" is that color timing projected through lower color temperature (redder/yellower/"warmer") of modern xenon arc lamps.

Roomba with an attitude (Sanpaku), Thursday, 19 July 2018 20:32 (five years ago) link

I believe that was essentially Nolan's explanation of the look of the "unrestoration"

the ignatius rock of ignorance (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 19 July 2018 20:36 (five years ago) link

There is absolutely zero chance that K built blinding white sets and models, lit it to perfection and thought "I really hope it comes out a bit yellowy on the colour timing, I'd also like the flaws in the film stock to feature, that's why I shot it on the largest available stock with meltingly bright lighting." The "unrestoration" is pure hipster-Luddite bullshit. The man was an exacting, technical photographer to whom accuracy was life and death.

an incoherent crustacean (MatthewK), Thursday, 19 July 2018 21:38 (five years ago) link

on his 90th, a taste of Kubrick's NYC, and a 1966 New Yorker profile

He saw the entire film collection at the Museum of Modern Art. Twice.

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/07/26/nyregion/new-york-today-stanley-kubricks-new-york.html

https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/1966/11/12/how-about-a-little-game

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 26 July 2018 16:33 (five years ago) link

Seeing Killer's Kiss tonight on 35mm

flappy bird, Thursday, 26 July 2018 16:59 (five years ago) link

70mm 'unrestored' 2001 for me...

I'm intrigued how in '66 The NYer just IDs Jim Thompson as "a writer friend" of Kubrick's. He truly was a cult item.

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 26 July 2018 17:07 (five years ago) link

MISSION: IMPOSSIBLE (1996) | Director of Photography: Stephen H. Burum | Director: Brian De Palma | #OnePerfectShot pic.twitter.com/vgi9UZGLrC

— Eric Allen Hatch (@ericallenhatch) July 12, 2018

flappy bird, Thursday, 26 July 2018 17:43 (five years ago) link

there *was* a Kubrick approved video transfer of 2001, the Criterion laserdisc done in 1988.

As I've been intermittently following the 'drama' over there regarding the 4K UHD release (merely out of morbid interest, I don't even have a Blu-Ray player,) I saw this post yesterday.

No idea if it's accurate but the poster implies that the 1999 DVD is from the same transfer with no colour changes.

https://www.hometheaterforum.com/community/threads/2001-a-space-odyssey-4k-uhd-available-for-preorder.356390/page-17#post-4634987

Absolute Unit Delta Plus (Noel Emits), Thursday, 26 July 2018 17:58 (five years ago) link

xps re: thompson

Despite some positive critical notice—notably by Anthony Boucher in The New York Times—he was little-recognized in his lifetime. Only after death did Thompson's literary stature grow.

visiting, Thursday, 26 July 2018 17:59 (five years ago) link

Some more about the colour timing business...

https://forum.fanres.com/thread-1596-page-4.html

"I am seeing the new 70mm at the Castro, and intermission just started. It basically looks identical to the last two prints I saw. The comment above that makes it seem like the "turquoise and teal" is some brand new 2018 revisionism are mistaken - the colors are the same as the last two prints I saw which were also struck from a circa 1999-2000 element. The scenes with noticeably odd colors, like a few teal skies in the Dawn of Man section, or the slightly yellow tinge of the space station, or the moon taxi interior with a teal wash and the view of the moon out the window looking purple, all match between the Cinematheque print I saw in 2016, the c.2001 print I saw at the Castro last year, and the new one. The Jupiter mission sequences have the same warm/cool, 80s/90s LPP-esque dichotomy (e.g., there's a scene where the pod bay looks teal and cyan, then takes on a warmer, faintly gold hue with brighter white highlights when the lights turn on).

As for "weak contrast" and "virtually no blacks or whites," I am seeing neither issue on the print as projected. I think it either just doesn't convert well to consumer digital color space, or they tried to match a digital transfer to the print's colors for that trailer and botched it. The colors in the trailer look similar, but the balance and white/black levels look much better when seeing it on film, projected in a theater.

I am not saying this is accurate to 1968, but it is accurate to the timing I've seen on other 70mm prints from the last 15-20 years. This has to be from a sister element to the one used to make the 2001 reissue prints and the 2016 American Cinematheque print; there is damage I did not see on the other prints, so it may not be the SAME element, but regardless, there is no brand-new revisionism going on in how the print looks as projected. As far as I can tell, any issues with the color are consistent with all the other prints struck since the late 90s. Right or wrong, all I can say is that these colors are not new to *this print*, and whatever they are, they are *not* a brand-new revisionism cooked up in 2018."

MaresNest, Thursday, 26 July 2018 19:36 (five years ago) link

These people are mentalists but you've got to respect their literally unbelievable ability to recall and compare exact colours over spans of decades.

Absolute Unit Delta Plus (Noel Emits), Thursday, 26 July 2018 20:15 (five years ago) link

yeah, my first and last viewings of 2001 on film were '74 and '01... and you got me

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 26 July 2018 20:17 (five years ago) link

that NY article is one of the greats

As the film appeared on the screen, Lockwood was shown jogging around the complete interior circumference of the centrifuge, which appeared to me to defy logic as well as physics, since when he was at the top he would have needed suction cups on his feet to stay glued to the floor. I asked Kubrick how he had achieved this effect, and he said he was definitely, absolutely not going to tell me.

niels, Friday, 27 July 2018 14:11 (five years ago) link

three months pass...
three months pass...

Filmworker on Film4 tonight

https://m.imdb.com/title/tt6851066/

koogs, Thursday, 7 March 2019 18:58 (five years ago) link


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