Chapo Trap House and the rise of the dirtbag left

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Mordy, it sounds like you just don't dig the personalities, which obv is fine. I could go on and on about my love for the Howard Stern Show but I'll never sway someone that isn't compelled by Howard or Robin's voice.

flappy bird, Monday, 16 January 2017 22:14 (seven years ago) link

Listening to ppl mocking D'Souza sounds hellish; his worthlessness has been well established enough and enough times on ilx alone that there couldn't be easier barrel fish to shoot.

Mordy, Monday, 16 January 2017 22:19 (seven years ago) link

i for one was glad to find out about his thesis that the reason the white south moved from voting democrat to voting republican in the latter part of the 20th century was because during this period white southerners got less racist

Islamic State of Mind (jim in vancouver), Monday, 16 January 2017 22:26 (seven years ago) link

I think I saw that story on lawyersgunsmoney which iirc is a neoliberal apologist for the Democratic Party so idk what's brave and
new about the dirtbag left I guess they mock Friedman and that's surely never been done before

Mordy, Monday, 16 January 2017 22:29 (seven years ago) link

yeah this isn't political reporting mordy, there's no exclusives, you can read everything they talk about somewhere else.

Islamic State of Mind (jim in vancouver), Monday, 16 January 2017 22:31 (seven years ago) link

i understand, it's commentary. somehow i'm doubting that their /take/ on D'Souza is remarkable or funny but if u guys feel really strongly about it i'll give it a listen + report back. i suspect these guys are getting a lot of mileage by doing sub-classic ilx thread humor + maybe like emotional replacement for gawker?

Mordy, Monday, 16 January 2017 22:41 (seven years ago) link

if you've already listened to the show and not liked it i wouldn't bother persevering tbh - unless you had any particular interest in one of the guests

Islamic State of Mind (jim in vancouver), Monday, 16 January 2017 22:52 (seven years ago) link

More importantly who's with me on my new creative venture (note: may be a podcast) called "Derka Derka Him Sad"

The beaver is not the bad guy (El Tomboto), Monday, 16 January 2017 23:08 (seven years ago) link

+ maybe like emotional replacement for gawker?

I hadn't thought of that but I suspect it helps to explain their popularity as well

a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Monday, 16 January 2017 23:16 (seven years ago) link

Show does feature a Deadspin writer

THE SKURJ OF FAKE NEWS. (kingfish), Monday, 16 January 2017 23:27 (seven years ago) link

it's amazing reading this thread, and seeing the same phenomenon play out whenever something gets fairly popular fairly fast - people get salty as if this new thing is being forced upon them, and they become contrarians and diss the thing and elevate it just to tear it down, without ever really engaging with the thing itself

― flappy bird, Monday, 16 January 2017 19:35 (yesterday) Permalink

Idk seems like people are also critiquing the audience on ideological grounds

Listen to my homeboy Fantano (D-40), Tuesday, 17 January 2017 00:40 (seven years ago) link

which also happens every time people talk about the latest fad and what it means/doesn't mean

The beaver is not the bad guy (El Tomboto), Tuesday, 17 January 2017 00:50 (seven years ago) link

if this isn't a passing fascination filling a temporary hole in people's commute / background non-music time, then that is probably some of the good news that I keep hearing about.
if this is that, that's okay too, the nostalgia will be fine.

I still would like to see where a podcast had an idea in it that people cared about later, though. That might be a different thread.

The beaver is not the bad guy (El Tomboto), Tuesday, 17 January 2017 00:53 (seven years ago) link

Caleb is eternal

THE SKURJ OF FAKE NEWS. (kingfish), Tuesday, 17 January 2017 00:59 (seven years ago) link

which also happens every time people talk about the latest fad and what it means/doesn't mean

― The beaver is not the bad guy (El Tomboto), Tuesday, 17 January 2017 00:50 (three hours ago) Permalink

Sure but my point isn't that we're arguing about this in some radical new way, but that there are legitimate reasons to argue about it & the implied logic of that post is smarmy "no haters" type ish

Listen to my homeboy Fantano (D-40), Tuesday, 17 January 2017 04:11 (seven years ago) link

enjoyed the d'souza ep. Perplexed as to why the same few people are still here still insisting that they haven't listened, don't want to, and that they have some proxy method for being able to determine that they don't like the show anyway.

the last famous person you were surprised to discover was actually (man alive), Tuesday, 17 January 2017 07:00 (seven years ago) link

If this podcast is anything like I imagine it is, then it will never change anything and besides podcasts are for nerds and I only do dope things

duped and used by my worst Miss U (President Keyes), Tuesday, 17 January 2017 13:44 (seven years ago) link

You got me

The beaver is not the bad guy (El Tomboto), Tuesday, 17 January 2017 14:06 (seven years ago) link

i'm about halfway through the d'souza ep, it's not particularly funny? i think if i heard this late at night on my local college radio station i might listen a little but ultimately it's not that engaging. are there better episodes that are more representative?

marcos, Tuesday, 17 January 2017 19:58 (seven years ago) link

i mostly listen to 2-3 baseball podcasts, the occasional film one

but i'll try one of those, flappy

Supercreditor (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 17 January 2017 20:02 (seven years ago) link

i mostly listen to 2-3 baseball podcasts, the occasional film one

but i'll try one of those, flappy

― Supercreditor (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, January 17, 2017 3:02 PM (one minute ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

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Whiney G. Weingarten, Tuesday, 17 January 2017 20:04 (seven years ago) link

i'm about halfway through the d'souza ep, it's not particularly funny? i think if i heard this late at night on my local college radio station i might listen a little but ultimately it's not that engaging. are there better episodes that are more representative?

― marcos, Tuesday, 17 January 2017 19:58 (thirty-five minutes ago) Permalink

Second the freeway ross douthat episode. I wouldn't go in expecting pure comedy or pure politics. It's sort of a mix of insight, humor and just gawky welcome to the dark carnival of legacy punditry, but not necessarily non-stop laughs. I can see why not everyone might enjoy such a thing.

the last famous person you were surprised to discover was actually (man alive), Tuesday, 17 January 2017 20:37 (seven years ago) link

To me the show feels very much like just hanging out with some smart and funny friends and bullshitting, only elevated a level or two, and I guess that's part of the appeal for me, and also a good reason for them to keep the just a few handheld mics on a couch format.

the last famous person you were surprised to discover was actually (man alive), Tuesday, 17 January 2017 20:38 (seven years ago) link

any fans of this should also check out Uhh Yeah Dude, a less focused and (imo) funnier podcast with a similar conversational hanging out style

just another (diamonddave85), Tuesday, 17 January 2017 20:50 (seven years ago) link

If I ever flame out of this industry, I would totally want to do a Chapo style podcast destroying bad professional music writers with Maura and D-40.

Whiney G. Weingarten, Tuesday, 17 January 2017 20:51 (seven years ago) link

would listen

the last famous person you were surprised to discover was actually (man alive), Tuesday, 17 January 2017 20:58 (seven years ago) link

just hanging out with some smart and funny friends and bullshitting

yea i get this. other eps I'm exploring now are okay, i can't say it warrants a new yorker article though? (although i haven't listened to the episode where they talk about that and it sounds like they also don't think an article was warranted?) again there's shit i've heard on college radio that is basically the same thing as this, sometimes better and sometimes worse. it's bc this is based in brooklyn though huh

marcos, Tuesday, 17 January 2017 20:59 (seven years ago) link

i can't say it warrants a new yorker article though?

i mean this is the same thing as Hipster Runoff and Pitchfork Reviews Reviews where

https://twitter.com/willystaley/status/427486358450360320

Whiney G. Weingarten, Tuesday, 17 January 2017 21:02 (seven years ago) link

any fans of this should also check out Uhh Yeah Dude

oh yeah, UYD is a million times funnier than Chapo, and even though we have a long running thread about it I'm sure half of the grumps around here would hate it

duped and used by my worst Miss U (President Keyes), Tuesday, 17 January 2017 21:07 (seven years ago) link

ie the nostalgia for emo

xp

Supercreditor (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 17 January 2017 21:07 (seven years ago) link

i like both UYD and CTH

jason waterfalls (gbx), Tuesday, 17 January 2017 21:08 (seven years ago) link

would also listen to Whiney's curmudgeoncast

in terms of The Boys Get Serious episodes the Adam Curtis one is good

a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Tuesday, 17 January 2017 21:12 (seven years ago) link

their monthly Patreon haul just surpassed Amanda Palmer, I hope this is something we can mostly all agree is good news

a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Tuesday, 17 January 2017 21:13 (seven years ago) link

Loved the old Craiglist UYD things but straight comedy podcasts don't do much for me overall.

Kiarostami bag (milo z), Tuesday, 17 January 2017 21:18 (seven years ago) link

I've been put off uyd by the name*

i note the irony of this in this thread

Islamic State of Mind (jim in vancouver), Tuesday, 17 January 2017 21:21 (seven years ago) link

a good reason for them to keep the just a few handheld mics on a couch format.

uhh yeah dude is two guys in a living room bullshitting, expertly recorded, and the clarity in their voices adds to the intimate and casual atmosphere, rather than detracting from it. it makes it funnier too imo, improves the sense of timing or something. CTH wouldn't have to go into a studio or anything, just buy some decent equipment with that 400K

sciatica, Wednesday, 18 January 2017 02:29 (seven years ago) link

while we're critiquing the CTH recording fidelity, let me just add that whatever sidechain compression/ducking they're using hurts my ears. peace

just another (diamonddave85), Wednesday, 18 January 2017 02:47 (seven years ago) link

otm. i hadn't heard ep 3 before tonight and holy fuck, they've come a long way

flappy bird, Wednesday, 18 January 2017 02:51 (seven years ago) link

If I ever flame out of this industry, I would totally want to do a Chapo style podcast destroying bad professional music writers with Maura and D-40.

― Whiney G. Weingarten, Tuesday, January 17, 2017 1:51 PM (yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

ooh ooh invite me!

who is extremely unqualified to review this pop album (BradNelson), Wednesday, 18 January 2017 15:24 (seven years ago) link

Everything I've read about CTH makes me think they're like the nerds tormented by bullies in Massacre at Central High who turn into bullies themselves and get offed by the protagonist in the second half of the movie.

(The caption: “fine dining.”) (DJP), Wednesday, 18 January 2017 15:26 (seven years ago) link

listening to the greatest hits you dudes linked upthread and here i am again thinking these bros aren't funny and their recording methods make these things genuinely unpleasant to listen to

who is extremely unqualified to review this pop album (BradNelson), Wednesday, 18 January 2017 15:30 (seven years ago) link

i guess i'm psyched that they target idiots and ether them for like 1.5 hours at a time

who is extremely unqualified to review this pop album (BradNelson), Wednesday, 18 January 2017 15:30 (seven years ago) link

People complaining about the audio probably also think the Bowie 'Raw Power' mix is better than Iggy's.

Kiarostami bag (milo z), Wednesday, 18 January 2017 15:40 (seven years ago) link

Holy Christ, the latest premium ep is literally them playing Call of Cthulhu for an hour.

And it's the first of two eps.

THE SKURJ OF FAKE NEWS. (kingfish), Wednesday, 18 January 2017 15:58 (seven years ago) link

I was thinking that another reason this is so popular is that almost all "political comedy" (esp on the teevee) tends not to think outside the constraints of party politics

much as I like these dues I phear the tabletop two-parter lol

a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Wednesday, 18 January 2017 16:06 (seven years ago) link

xpost oh boy. One downside of the podcasting boom--it has convinced some people that recordings of their gaming adventures are not just things to be put in shoe boxes for discovery in twenty years when one of the players has just died of Mountain Dew related causes

duped and used by my worst Miss U (President Keyes), Wednesday, 18 January 2017 16:08 (seven years ago) link

I downloaded it but the leash is short. The characters sound funny at least.

Kiarostami bag (milo z), Wednesday, 18 January 2017 16:11 (seven years ago) link

u have to admit this burn is savage

https://twitter.com/twelveoclocke/status/802251555344908288

goole, Wednesday, 18 January 2017 16:13 (seven years ago) link


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