Chapo Trap House and the rise of the dirtbag left

we do hate LA though, that part is true

New premium ep is up, and this week's delay was because the previous ep got munched....because they probably recorded straight to the laptop again. Goddammit.

Talk of how the sound quality is bad is the first thing that has me interested in listening to this

How come evidence of "the center" is always the actual politicians? It seems like most of the ppl critical of the "dirtbag left" I know would not in any way consider themselves centrist

haha whoa, Matt snuck in a Joey Boots tribute at the end of this new premium ep. makes sense at least one these guys is a Stern fan

i don't know anybody who would honestly describe themselves as a "centrist" or a "moderate". i do know people who espouse centrist ideas. a lot of people were raised all their life on certain ideas, like the notion that the basis of government is compromise, that led to the passage of the ACA in the first place, and aren't willing or able to acknowledge that particular ship sailed a long time ago. i'm not particularly worried about them because most of the lifelong democrats will fall in line behind whoever the candidate is, regardless of their policies. they will be a more reliable voting bloc than the ideological left, who have a congenital resistance to "falling in line" behind anybody.

I can never keep them straight on Twitter vs their voices, but one responded to people defending John Lewis quoting their negative statements on Chelsea Manning. Yeah, the people quoted are stupid re:Manning, but I feel like that's just an unnecessary and unhelpful path to travel down.

Burn down the Democratic structures, yeah, but I'm pretty comfortable rallying around legitimate American heroes with otherwise disagreeable people.

I met a Chapo fan in the wild this morning - this is in Toronto. They are becoming a proper Thing, I am inclined to think.

Yeah, people I've turned on to the show are now spreading it to others who're subscribing.

Subscribers atm are now 7,601, about 1/6th up from last month, according to Graphtreon.

Also:

https://twitter.com/deep_beige/status/820381681144266752

Brendan James‏ @deep_beige

Just recorded an episode with the great @BillCorbett, genuinely a high point of my life

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C2KUx-fVQAAGw4E.jpg

1:26 PM · Jan 14, 2017

https://twitter.com/cushbomb/status/820410460189196288

is this the bill corbett who replaced trace beaulieu as the voice of crow on mst3k, or some other bill corbett?

what are we going to say about this nonsense 5 years from now

what are we going to say about this nonsense 5 years from now

"We" are all going to stare at the ground and pretend we have no idea what people are talking about.

We'll be tapping in Morse code about them to the prisoner in an adjoining cell

is this the bill corbett who replaced trace beaulieu as the voice of crow on mst3k, or some other bill corbett?

That Bill Corbett

new ep is up

this picture shocked me, then again idk why i expected them to have like a tristar setup or whatever joe rogan uses, i'm just like damn.... mics on a couch. no headphones.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C0QjnRKXcAETu5D.jpg

i like when this thread shifts back into critiquing their engineering and broadcast skills

that picture makes me want to join isil

like don't you just look at that and go, ok so tell me more about the exact opposite of whatever these guys think

yes, if i hadn't heard the show. theater of the mind, maaaaan

that picture makes me want to join isil

― sleepingbag, Monday, 16 January 2017 02:55 (forty-four minutes ago) Permalink

Menaker's ISIS one-finger sign in the prior photo clearly worked its subconscious magic on you as intended.

damn, they really are one step ahead of me. the self loathing must be unimaginable

imo they should downgrade their setup and just all hunker around a laptop and yell at it

like don't you just look at that and go, ok so tell me more about the exact opposite of whatever these guys think

― sleepingbag, Sunday, January 15, 2017 8:56 PM (yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

its three guys on a couch

I think he means the sweatpants with the vertical stripe

also does the other guy wear the same tshirt every day? v dirtbag

like don't you just look at that and go, ok so tell me more about the exact opposite of whatever these guys think

― sleepingbag

nah. my reaction is "wow, it's three guys on a couch. why is everybody so worked up about them?"

it's amazing reading this thread, and seeing the same phenomenon play out whenever something gets fairly popular fairly fast - people get salty as if this new thing is being forced upon them, and they become contrarians and diss the thing and elevate it just to tear it down, without ever really engaging with the thing itself

i tried listening to a few episodes of this. boring af. stans itt must be real desperate these days what jacobin is too much reading

this is not really the aural equivalent of jacobin articles - i listen to this show religiously and i p much hate the jacobin. i don't listen because i cosign their politics. it's an entertainment show based mainly on ribbing political pundits. ymmv depending on how entertaining that might be to you, for many people that won't be remotely funny, or entertaining, or worthwhile in any way shape or form as an endeavor.

but as someone who hate reads the nyt, wapo, atlantic etc. (as well as the guardian but obv chapo is u.s. centric) almost as much as i read something that i actually like and agree with, who yesterday literally shouted at the radio before turning it off because some dumbfuck centrist was talking about the benefits of fptp and how the real problem with our "broken politics" is that it is too bipartisan and there isn't enough dialogue this is v much relevant to my interests

we have like a dozen ilx threads for complaining about all these media outlets that rarely get bumped bc ppl rightly feel like it gets tedious to make the same complaints every single day but put 3 sleepy indistinguishable white dudes on a podcast + it's b-a-n-a-n-a-s apparently

i basically can't get enough of complaining about media outlets tbh. i have spent days of my life getting angry about the guardian.

xxp otm, the appeal of the show is p narrow: politics but really a meta-commentary on political reporting and "optics" and semiotics and trends. i'm amazed it's become so popular because i assumed it would only appeal to a small group of people in the media and people that grew up in media/publishing families like Will

the appeal of the show is p narrow: politics but really a meta-commentary on political reporting and "optics" and semiotics and trends. i'm amazed it's become so popular because i assumed it would only appeal to a small group of people in the media and people that grew up in media/publishing families like Will

You're overlooking the desperate desire among a surprisingly large cohort of dudes to feel on the inside. The kind of assholes who will hungrily devour articles not about sports, but about sportswriters.

I'll admit I didn't know that contingent existed because I never considered this shit was interesting to anyone that didn't grow up in it

what you're describing def sounds like a "failson"

as someone who hate reads the nyt, wapo, atlantic etc. (as well as the guardian

every generation get's teh "i don't even own a TV" that it deserves

I think the reason it's popular is that it's a reasonably funny take on opinions that are normally voiced very humorlessly, and (increasingly, I think) it's a nice corrective to several different popular modes of popular political media. Not much more to it than that imo

Also it's clear that there's a newfound appetite for criticism and thought from the far left so it's partially just excellent timing

i tried listening to a few episodes of this. boring af. stans itt must be real desperate these days what jacobin is too much reading

Oh come ON. This is a bullshit criticism both of the show and people in here and you know it. Hell, the show has had on both _editors_ from Jacobin and several contributors, not to having one as a co-host.

Also, D'Souza's hilariously self-aggrandizing Hillary movie is dumber than even we could have expected when we ripped on it in that other thread.

i know u like the show so don't take it personally but i think it's v dumb + v hard to understand the appeal. but that's ok and here's why.

and the problem isn't that jacobin is great and this isn't that. the problem is that jacobin is barely tolerable and this is worse.

Mordy what are some fun lefty podcasts you enjoy, if any (I'm earnestly interested, not trying to be a dick)

i don't listen to any podcasts that i'd characterize as having a particular political pov. atm i really like mike duncan's revolutions podcast which obv touches on a lot of issues that would be of interest to lefty politics - esp when it's covering the diggers or the levellers in english civil war or 70% of the french revolution or haitian civil war or boliver. in general i'm not following contemporary US politics w/ any kind of depth (tho inevitably end up reading some jacobin or the nation article or whatever interview w/ chomsky this week). maybe that's part of the problem -- i find the current political landscape so depressing that at best this kind of thing could end up being is whistling past the graveyard but what i've heard (mostly the episodes on kingfish's recommendations!) hasn't even come up to that level. like it's literally v v boring people where even knowing the references they make doesn't make them more appealing unless that's it and it's just the joy of recognition hey i know that name hey i've complained about that online magazine before hey i also think mixing sardonic quips about obscure media figures w/ heavy-handed dour moments about /getting serious/ is the right tonality for otm'hood.

...the same phenomenon play out whenever something gets fairly popular fairly fast - people get salty as if this new thing is being forced upon them, and they become contrarians and diss the thing and elevate it just to tear it down, without ever really engaging with the thing itself

Anything people get excited about has a >90% likelihood of being a fad. The crowd / pack reactions are the way we triage stuff. IS THIS ACTUALLY IMPORTANT BARK BARK BARK BARK WELL I SAY IT IS DO YOU TRUST ME BARK BARK etc.

Podcasts seem like one of the most irrelevant media formats we have today so my vote is WOOF WOOF

I have to believe that people who don't see the humor haven't listened to the reading series or things like the one today cracking on Dinesh D'Souza.

Pretty dumb thing to say

xpost

Mordy, it sounds like you just don't dig the personalities, which obv is fine. I could go on and on about my love for the Howard Stern Show but I'll never sway someone that isn't compelled by Howard or Robin's voice.

Listening to ppl mocking D'Souza sounds hellish; his worthlessness has been well established enough and enough times on ilx alone that there couldn't be easier barrel fish to shoot.