this show is goofy cathartic fun centered around bullying dumb pseuds in the media. it owes more to howard stern than anything and I don't think it can really bear the weight of representing an actual political movement but that's not its fault.
― ryan, Friday, 13 January 2017 23:01 (seven years ago) link
otm re: the howard stern comparison. like myself and others upthread have said, it's just a good podcast
― flappy bird, Friday, 13 January 2017 23:07 (seven years ago) link
i don't even think it's a symmetrical fixation, the anti-bernie people i can see are far more blindly rabid. zero effort at coalition-building from center types, none.
― goole
fwiw ive agreed with most of what youve posted but this...i feel like we're just exiting in two parallel but different universes right now, because it's not been my experience at all.
― Listen to my homeboy Fantano (D-40), Friday, 13 January 2017 23:08 (seven years ago) link
the "here's what happened on twitter this week" is enjoyable but also the worst part of the podcast
i will listen to this at some point and they are going for different things obv but this^ really, really makes me appreciate the efforts the uhh yeah dudes go to, really digging deep for not stepped on content
― sciatica, Friday, 13 January 2017 23:10 (seven years ago) link
also yet another recorded straight to laptop podcast with shitty sound, wildly varying levels, etc? really? no excuse for this imo, even if you're making bupkes
― sciatica, Friday, 13 January 2017 23:20 (seven years ago) link
I've definitely seen random examples of that but maybe because my social media feeds lean far left I'm getting the opposite impression. I know I know "your mentions aren't the election etc" Ellison has gotten a good amount of centrist support. Hasn't it always been the case that the Bernie people were more anti-Hillary then vice verse? I keep coming back to the Morgan Murphy joke from the primary: Bernie supporters are San Francisco. Hillary supporters are Los Angeles. San Francisco hates LA but LA is like, "San Francisco is cool too."
― Nerdstrom Poindexter, Friday, 13 January 2017 23:39 (seven years ago) link
Tbf, the sound's gotten better, but it ain't where it should be yet. Way too much room echo on Matt's end, for example.
― THE SKURJ OF FAKE NEWS. (kingfish), Friday, 13 January 2017 23:39 (seven years ago) link
keep coming back to the Morgan Murphy joke from the primary: Bernie supporters are San Francisco. Hillary supporters are Los Angeles. San Francisco hates LA but LA is like, "San Francisco is cool too."
Heh. Move this up the coast a bit and you have Portland and Seattle, too.
― THE SKURJ OF FAKE NEWS. (kingfish), Friday, 13 January 2017 23:40 (seven years ago) link
Ellison has gotten a good amount of centrist support
tablet mag just ran a piece about the dangerous anticlinton left, captioned by an extreme closeup of ellison's face, mouth open in apparent rage, howling, coming for you. maybe this is cherrypicking -- glad to hear it if there's more openness to him than i think.
Bernie supporters are San Francisco. Hillary supporters are Los Angeles. San Francisco hates LA but LA is like, "San Francisco is cool too."
i just don't see this. at the beginning of the primary the centrist attitude to bernie was "lol hippies", just like it always is. maybe a little bit of "how civilized that our inevitable champion will first be toughened by a few friendly war games!" by the end, after he'd actually given clinton something vaguely resembling trouble, it was "we must defeat the secret leader of the misogynistic and probably-racist-somehow hate mob perversely calling itself 'the left'". this has continued.
― difficult listening hour, Friday, 13 January 2017 23:49 (seven years ago) link
to be fair that piece in tablet was written by a never trump neocon who starts off the article saying he has voted for republican presidents since 2004 until trump came along
so a hilary voter but not a liberal
― Islamic State of Mind (jim in vancouver), Friday, 13 January 2017 23:54 (seven years ago) link
yr right. still -- these are the people the center wants a "coalition" with.
― difficult listening hour, Friday, 13 January 2017 23:56 (seven years ago) link
(and there aren't very many of them. cf again the infamous schumer remark.)
― difficult listening hour, Friday, 13 January 2017 23:57 (seven years ago) link
Weird, it's honestly been the opposite with me. I recall quite a few of his supporters online openly rooting for HRC to get indicted. You know...for the emails. Wikileaks stuff was often shared by both Bernie dead enders along with Trump supporters, even the "she has Parkinson's" "she killed Seth Rich" variety stuff WL pushed.
― Nerdstrom Poindexter, Friday, 13 January 2017 23:59 (seven years ago) link
Bernie supporters are San Francisco.
wrong:
President, Democratic PartyClinton, Hillary: 55.46%Sanders, Bernie: 43.81%
http://www.sfexaminer.com/election-june-2016-latest-results/
― Οὖτις, Saturday, 14 January 2017 00:00 (seven years ago) link
prize for taking a metaphor literally goes to
― Islamic State of Mind (jim in vancouver), Saturday, 14 January 2017 00:10 (seven years ago) link
so much winning
― Οὖτις, Saturday, 14 January 2017 00:13 (seven years ago) link
we do hate LA though, that part is true
New premium ep is up, and this week's delay was because the previous ep got munched....because they probably recorded straight to the laptop again. Goddammit.
― THE SKURJ OF FAKE NEWS. (kingfish), Saturday, 14 January 2017 00:27 (seven years ago) link
Talk of how the sound quality is bad is the first thing that has me interested in listening to this
― a but (brimstead), Saturday, 14 January 2017 00:51 (seven years ago) link
How come evidence of "the center" is always the actual politicians? It seems like most of the ppl critical of the "dirtbag left" I know would not in any way consider themselves centrist
― Listen to my homeboy Fantano (D-40), Saturday, 14 January 2017 02:29 (seven years ago) link
haha whoa, Matt snuck in a Joey Boots tribute at the end of this new premium ep. makes sense at least one these guys is a Stern fan
― flappy bird, Saturday, 14 January 2017 05:10 (seven years ago) link
i don't know anybody who would honestly describe themselves as a "centrist" or a "moderate". i do know people who espouse centrist ideas. a lot of people were raised all their life on certain ideas, like the notion that the basis of government is compromise, that led to the passage of the ACA in the first place, and aren't willing or able to acknowledge that particular ship sailed a long time ago. i'm not particularly worried about them because most of the lifelong democrats will fall in line behind whoever the candidate is, regardless of their policies. they will be a more reliable voting bloc than the ideological left, who have a congenital resistance to "falling in line" behind anybody.
― increasingly bonkers (rushomancy), Saturday, 14 January 2017 12:07 (seven years ago) link
I can never keep them straight on Twitter vs their voices, but one responded to people defending John Lewis quoting their negative statements on Chelsea Manning. Yeah, the people quoted are stupid re:Manning, but I feel like that's just an unnecessary and unhelpful path to travel down.
― Kiarostami bag (milo z), Saturday, 14 January 2017 22:48 (seven years ago) link
Burn down the Democratic structures, yeah, but I'm pretty comfortable rallying around legitimate American heroes with otherwise disagreeable people.
― Kiarostami bag (milo z), Saturday, 14 January 2017 22:49 (seven years ago) link
I met a Chapo fan in the wild this morning - this is in Toronto. They are becoming a proper Thing, I am inclined to think.
― a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Saturday, 14 January 2017 23:09 (seven years ago) link
Yeah, people I've turned on to the show are now spreading it to others who're subscribing.
Subscribers atm are now 7,601, about 1/6th up from last month, according to Graphtreon.
Also:
https://twitter.com/deep_beige/status/820381681144266752
Brendan James @deep_beige
Just recorded an episode with the great @BillCorbett, genuinely a high point of my life
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C2KUx-fVQAAGw4E.jpg
1:26 PM · Jan 14, 2017
https://twitter.com/cushbomb/status/820410460189196288
― THE SKURJ OF FAKE NEWS. (kingfish), Sunday, 15 January 2017 00:07 (seven years ago) link
is this the bill corbett who replaced trace beaulieu as the voice of crow on mst3k, or some other bill corbett?
― increasingly bonkers (rushomancy), Sunday, 15 January 2017 00:45 (seven years ago) link
what are we going to say about this nonsense 5 years from now
― The beaver is not the bad guy (El Tomboto), Sunday, 15 January 2017 00:53 (seven years ago) link
"We" are all going to stare at the ground and pretend we have no idea what people are talking about.
― Don Van Gorp, midwest regional VP, marketing (誤訳侮辱), Sunday, 15 January 2017 01:38 (seven years ago) link
We'll be tapping in Morse code about them to the prisoner in an adjoining cell
― duped and used by my worst Miss U (President Keyes), Sunday, 15 January 2017 01:41 (seven years ago) link
That Bill Corbett
― THE SKURJ OF FAKE NEWS. (kingfish), Sunday, 15 January 2017 07:25 (seven years ago) link
new ep is up
this picture shocked me, then again idk why i expected them to have like a tristar setup or whatever joe rogan uses, i'm just like damn.... mics on a couch. no headphones.
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C0QjnRKXcAETu5D.jpg
i like when this thread shifts back into critiquing their engineering and broadcast skills
― flappy bird, Monday, 16 January 2017 02:51 (seven years ago) link
that picture makes me want to join isil
― sleepingbag, Monday, 16 January 2017 02:55 (seven years ago) link
like don't you just look at that and go, ok so tell me more about the exact opposite of whatever these guys think
― sleepingbag, Monday, 16 January 2017 02:56 (seven years ago) link
yes, if i hadn't heard the show. theater of the mind, maaaaan
― flappy bird, Monday, 16 January 2017 03:00 (seven years ago) link
― sleepingbag, Monday, 16 January 2017 02:55 (forty-four minutes ago) Permalink
Menaker's ISIS one-finger sign in the prior photo clearly worked its subconscious magic on you as intended.
― the last famous person you were surprised to discover was actually (man alive), Monday, 16 January 2017 03:42 (seven years ago) link
damn, they really are one step ahead of me. the self loathing must be unimaginable
― sleepingbag, Monday, 16 January 2017 04:13 (seven years ago) link
imo they should downgrade their setup and just all hunker around a laptop and yell at it
― mh 😏, Monday, 16 January 2017 05:23 (seven years ago) link
― sleepingbag, Sunday, January 15, 2017 8:56 PM (yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
its three guys on a couch
― jason waterfalls (gbx), Monday, 16 January 2017 12:43 (seven years ago) link
I think he means the sweatpants with the vertical stripe
also does the other guy wear the same tshirt every day? v dirtbag
― The beaver is not the bad guy (El Tomboto), Monday, 16 January 2017 14:25 (seven years ago) link
― sleepingbag
nah. my reaction is "wow, it's three guys on a couch. why is everybody so worked up about them?"
― increasingly bonkers (rushomancy), Monday, 16 January 2017 19:32 (seven years ago) link
it's amazing reading this thread, and seeing the same phenomenon play out whenever something gets fairly popular fairly fast - people get salty as if this new thing is being forced upon them, and they become contrarians and diss the thing and elevate it just to tear it down, without ever really engaging with the thing itself
― flappy bird, Monday, 16 January 2017 19:35 (seven years ago) link
i tried listening to a few episodes of this. boring af. stans itt must be real desperate these days what jacobin is too much reading
― Mordy, Monday, 16 January 2017 19:36 (seven years ago) link
this is not really the aural equivalent of jacobin articles - i listen to this show religiously and i p much hate the jacobin. i don't listen because i cosign their politics. it's an entertainment show based mainly on ribbing political pundits. ymmv depending on how entertaining that might be to you, for many people that won't be remotely funny, or entertaining, or worthwhile in any way shape or form as an endeavor.
but as someone who hate reads the nyt, wapo, atlantic etc. (as well as the guardian but obv chapo is u.s. centric) almost as much as i read something that i actually like and agree with, who yesterday literally shouted at the radio before turning it off because some dumbfuck centrist was talking about the benefits of fptp and how the real problem with our "broken politics" is that it is too bipartisan and there isn't enough dialogue this is v much relevant to my interests
― Islamic State of Mind (jim in vancouver), Monday, 16 January 2017 19:44 (seven years ago) link
we have like a dozen ilx threads for complaining about all these media outlets that rarely get bumped bc ppl rightly feel like it gets tedious to make the same complaints every single day but put 3 sleepy indistinguishable white dudes on a podcast + it's b-a-n-a-n-a-s apparently
― Mordy, Monday, 16 January 2017 19:49 (seven years ago) link
i basically can't get enough of complaining about media outlets tbh. i have spent days of my life getting angry about the guardian.
― Islamic State of Mind (jim in vancouver), Monday, 16 January 2017 19:50 (seven years ago) link
xxp otm, the appeal of the show is p narrow: politics but really a meta-commentary on political reporting and "optics" and semiotics and trends. i'm amazed it's become so popular because i assumed it would only appeal to a small group of people in the media and people that grew up in media/publishing families like Will
― flappy bird, Monday, 16 January 2017 19:50 (seven years ago) link
the appeal of the show is p narrow: politics but really a meta-commentary on political reporting and "optics" and semiotics and trends. i'm amazed it's become so popular because i assumed it would only appeal to a small group of people in the media and people that grew up in media/publishing families like Will
You're overlooking the desperate desire among a surprisingly large cohort of dudes to feel on the inside. The kind of assholes who will hungrily devour articles not about sports, but about sportswriters.
― Don Van Gorp, midwest regional VP, marketing (誤訳侮辱), Monday, 16 January 2017 20:08 (seven years ago) link
I'll admit I didn't know that contingent existed because I never considered this shit was interesting to anyone that didn't grow up in it
― flappy bird, Monday, 16 January 2017 20:11 (seven years ago) link
what you're describing def sounds like a "failson"
― flappy bird, Monday, 16 January 2017 20:14 (seven years ago) link