taking sides: lyndon baines johnson vs. richard milhous nixon

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My deal was that Tricky Dick seemed more like a guy that would get his rocks off making lists and counting money than doing the nasty. Sex seems way too personal and sticky. It actually humanizes him a bit.

earlnash, Monday, 9 January 2017 05:12 (seven years ago) link

nixon's erotic side comes out when he talks about his enemies

difficult listening hour, Monday, 9 January 2017 05:22 (seven years ago) link

that's how they play it and we're gonna play it just as dirty. get them on the ground where we want them. stick our heels in hard. twist.

difficult listening hour, Monday, 9 January 2017 05:22 (seven years ago) link

Nixon supposedly came out of WWII working with a bank roll that helped get him into Congress. In the rear with the gear could be quite profitable.

earlnash, Monday, 9 January 2017 05:36 (seven years ago) link

Won most of it playing poker according to Nixonland

Number None, Monday, 9 January 2017 08:16 (seven years ago) link

nixon's erotic side comes out when he talks about his enemies

― difficult listening hour, Monday, January 9, 2017 12:22 A

real lol (and true)

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 9 January 2017 11:10 (seven years ago) link

http://i.imgur.com/DNiIIPx.jpg

pplains, Monday, 9 January 2017 15:59 (seven years ago) link

Won most of it playing poker according to Nixonland

seems like politicians who excel at poker do better than those who excel at chess

a little too mature to be cute (Aimless), Monday, 9 January 2017 18:59 (seven years ago) link

Slate: That also sounded to me like a chess player’s analysis. You’re the greatest chess player ever. Is Putin playing chess, or is he playing a different game?

Kasparov: No, I always wanted to defend the integrity of my game—when people said, Oh, Putin played chess, Obama played checkers. Putin, as with every dictator, hates chess because chess is a strategic game which is 100 percent transparent. I know what are available resources for me and what kind of resources could be mobilized by my opponent. Of course, I don’t know what my opponent thinks about strategy and tactics, but at least I know what kind of resources available to you cause damage to me.

Dictators hate transparency and Putin feels much more comfortable playing a game that I would rather call geopolitical poker. In poker, you know, you can win having a very weak hand, provided you have enough cash to raise the stakes—and also, if you have a strong nerve, to bluff. Putin kept bluffing. He could see his geopolitical opponents—the leaders of the free world—folding cards, one after another. For me, the crucial moment where Putin decided that he could do whatever was Obama’s decision not to enforce the infamous red line in Syria.

Mordy, Monday, 9 January 2017 20:11 (seven years ago) link

one month passes...

https://twitter.com/APIC_USA/status/834534585799053312

Supercreditor (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 23 February 2017 19:13 (seven years ago) link

one month passes...

Farrell's Nixon bio is out.

“The press is the enemy,” Nixon told his aides. “Write that on the blackboard 100 times and never forget it.”

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/03/29/books/richard-nixon-biography-john-a-farrell.html?_r=0

Supercreditor (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 30 March 2017 21:04 (seven years ago) link

four months pass...

Didn't realize till a FB post just now that today's the 43rd resignation anniversary. Trump seems to taken his Madman-Nixon mask off the shelf to commemorate.

clemenza, Wednesday, 9 August 2017 00:32 (six years ago) link

The Farrell bio, by the way, is excellent, and he gives the fullest account of his "monkey wrenching" the '68 peace talks.

the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 9 August 2017 00:33 (six years ago) link

Don't have it. I bought Tim Weiner's One Man Against the World: The Tragedy of Richard Nixon recently, but haven't read it yet.

clemenza, Wednesday, 9 August 2017 00:42 (six years ago) link

five months pass...

HAPPY BIRTHDAY, MR. PRESIDENT!
Funny gifts appear to have been a tradition in the Nixon White House. In 1973, he received some caricature figures, a framed image of Massachusetts and DC (he didn't win them in '72) & this Halloween mask from daughter Tricia. (WHPO-D1193-19) pic.twitter.com/zLfd4HFMQd

— RichardNixonLibrary (@NixonLibrary) January 9, 2018

ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 9 January 2018 22:12 (six years ago) link

one year passes...

Last time I get to do this: spend 15 minutes talking to nine-year-olds about Richard Nixon on his birthday. He’s the greatest object lesson ever in the lie being worse than whatever led to the lie, and if you frame his downfall that way, kids immediately understand. Trump’s lies are so numerous and (often) so bizarre, I don’t think there’s much meaning there. Nixon was a much more interesting liar.

Obviously, you won’t come across a clearer explanation of Watergate than my diagram. The burglars are the x’s at the bottom right, Nixon is the check mark at the top left.

http://phildellio.tripod.com/watergate.JPG

clemenza, Thursday, 10 January 2019 00:57 (five years ago) link

Nixon was born 106 years ago tomorrow—here in 1974 offering cake to dog King Timahoe, San Clemente: pic.twitter.com/1aZkYptdDW

— Michael Beschloss (@BeschlossDC) January 9, 2019

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 10 January 2019 01:13 (five years ago) link

https://i.imgur.com/O81x9cV.jpg

"Well I'll be damned – your birthday's the day before mine!"

pplains, Thursday, 10 January 2019 02:17 (five years ago) link

RMN shares a birthday with Joan Baez. Guess where Joan was when Nixon bombed Hanoi at Xmas '72... Yep.

Josefa, Thursday, 10 January 2019 02:27 (five years ago) link

Graceland?

pplains, Thursday, 10 January 2019 03:04 (five years ago) link

Hanoi Joan

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 10 January 2019 21:38 (five years ago) link

one year passes...

I've read enough about Nixon that I ought to know the answer to this, but was he as aggressive as Trump in going after people from his own party? My sense of Nixon is that he had his inner circle of Haldeman, Erlichman, Kissinger, etc., and that the rest of the party--even his own cabinet--barely existed.

clemenza, Thursday, 6 February 2020 18:46 (four years ago) link

Nixon didn't do that shit in public the way Trump does afaik

Οὖτις, Thursday, 6 February 2020 21:00 (four years ago) link

Before he became president, Nixon was a tireless speaker for any republican candidate or party organ that wanted him, as a means of collecting chits for return favors in the future. When he became president he switched more into the mode of dictating terms in advance, but he was a party man top to bottom.

A is for (Aimless), Thursday, 6 February 2020 21:05 (four years ago) link

Nixon definitely obsequious in a way Trump has never had to be

Οὖτις, Thursday, 6 February 2020 21:09 (four years ago) link

I was thinking of Nixon in '72, heading into the election, when he--like Trump--felt all-powerful and untouchable. I don't think he was out there beating the bushes for disloyal Republicans and responding to every last slight. Not even privately, I suspect; he had moved beyond party in every sense. If you look at his '72 ads, there's just Nixon, nothing else.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dploiFDlRE4

Such an inspiring song.

clemenza, Thursday, 6 February 2020 23:53 (four years ago) link

two months pass...

Happy Earth Day.

http://phildellio.tripod.com/planting.jpg

clemenza, Wednesday, 22 April 2020 22:59 (three years ago) link

every picture tells a story

A is for (Aimless), Wednesday, 22 April 2020 23:21 (three years ago) link

"Goddamn it, Pat, is this really necessary?"

clemenza, Thursday, 23 April 2020 00:16 (three years ago) link

I wonder who on the shit list is under the dirt.

pplains, Thursday, 23 April 2020 00:24 (three years ago) link

one month passes...

Just posted today--your dreams have been answered.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5hOqnG9UHLE

clemenza, Friday, 29 May 2020 00:03 (three years ago) link

two months pass...

http://phildellio.tripod.com/resignation.jpeg

clemenza, Sunday, 9 August 2020 14:58 (three years ago) link

five months pass...

Does anything say Valentine's Day better than Richard Nixon?

https://phildellio.tripod.com/nixon-2.jpg

clemenza, Friday, 29 January 2021 20:50 (three years ago) link

somewhere, Roger Stone just got hard

Ray Cooney as "Crotch" (stevie), Friday, 29 January 2021 20:53 (three years ago) link

You just sent me to therapy.

clemenza, Friday, 29 January 2021 20:54 (three years ago) link

four months pass...

Screenshot I took from Versailles '73: American Runway Revolution.

https://phildellio.tripod.com/fashion.jpg

clemenza, Monday, 7 June 2021 12:14 (two years ago) link

eight months pass...

CNN starts an LBJ series tonight (yeah, I know, "Turn Turn Turn"):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pND1mP0Rwpo

clemenza, Sunday, 20 February 2022 18:56 (two years ago) link

That trailer's voice-over has a definite "In a world..." vibe.

more difficult than I look (Aimless), Sunday, 20 February 2022 19:24 (two years ago) link

a bit of a Casey Kasem vibe too

Josefa, Sunday, 20 February 2022 19:50 (two years ago) link

Still wishing for the day when the Mothers' "Trouble Every Day" becomes the go-to music for the mid-late '60s.

clemenza, Sunday, 20 February 2022 20:01 (two years ago) link

Jesus, I think it involves reenactments. I'll be out of there with the first one.

clemenza, Sunday, 20 February 2022 20:35 (two years ago) link

I bailed, indeed--the Man on Wire documentary might be the only one I ever saw where I reached a level of tolerance with the reenactments.

The other guy in the thread title has a new ally:

https://www.hotnewhiphop.com/kanye-west-shares-his-long-list-of-enemies-including-skete-davidson-news.147986.html

clemenza, Monday, 21 February 2022 15:23 (two years ago) link

one year passes...

111th--planning something monstrous with Kissinger right now.

clemenza, Tuesday, 9 January 2024 16:45 (three months ago) link

has already fired the special prosecutor in Hell

Disco Biollante (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 9 January 2024 18:31 (three months ago) link

Still intrigued by what kind of balancing act he'd do with regards to Trump. He was the ultimate company man, but I think he'd try to figure out some way to create a little distance--a non-endorsement endorsement, if you will.

clemenza, Tuesday, 9 January 2024 23:21 (three months ago) link

I was not quite eight when Nixon resigned. My most vivid memory of him is that, when he was on TV, he sweat. Like, a lot. His upper lip was slick.

This is my all-time favorite Nixon pic. It says so much about the man.

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2021/08/31/14/47274247-9943475-Pictured_Nixon_checks_his_watch_as_he_shakes_hands_with_a_member-a-12_1630417756875.jpg

I don't think he was a political genius so much as an amoral survivor. His only goal was his political survival, and any means to achieve that goal was acceptable.

If there has been a true political genius in the U.S. in the past 100 years, it was Bill Clinton.

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Wednesday, 10 January 2024 00:24 (three months ago) link

Nah, man. FDR. At least his feral genius produced tangible good for decades.

poppers fueled buttsex crescendo (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 10 January 2024 00:26 (three months ago) link

FDR I'd put up there also. I obviously didn't experience the man first-hand. But Clinton has (or had) what Apple developer Bud Tribble, referring to Steve Jobs, called a "reality distortion field."

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Wednesday, 10 January 2024 00:28 (three months ago) link

Nixon was at least complicated (Title 9, the EPA, detente with China)... for all his base amorality he actually did a thing or two

But yeah, we still live daily with FDR's legacy, maybe even a little LBJ as well

Andy the Grasshopper, Wednesday, 10 January 2024 00:31 (three months ago) link

My very Republican grandmother used to fake gagging whenever the name Franklin Delano Roosevelt was mentioned.

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Wednesday, 10 January 2024 00:33 (three months ago) link


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