what's cooking? part 5: 2017-2027

not because it really needs to go to 2027 because we'll all be under the ocean by then but because part 4 started in 2007

i made some pretty great tomato soup yesterday

san marzano toms + butter in pressure cooker w salt and baking soda
veggie stock + drained liquid from toms + a few bags of lapsang souchong
puree toms w stick blender, drain through sieve, combine with liquid ingredients
maple syrup + fish sauce to taste

how do you get to the point in life where you're putting heterodox ingredients like tea, maple syrup and fish sauce in tomato soup? is this entirely your own invention or are you following some unknown and wild tradition?

its the food of my people

bored single men who spend a lot of time on food blogs

well I am impressed, it sounds delicious (though not sure about the tea). how long did you cook it for?

toms were in the pressure cooker for 20mins, which is the bulk of the cooking time

in the context of bold tomato flavor and stock, the tea adds primarily smokiness and some sweetness. it's worth trying, i think!

Were these canned whole toms? Why pressure cooker? Why baking soda???

whole canned toms

pressure cooker reaches higher temperatures, which, in combination with the increased pH you get with baking soda, leads to caramelization that would be impossible otherwise

i actually made a batch earlier in the week that i forgot to add baking soda to and the difference is pretty noticeable --- w/o it the soup is much brighter and more acidic/tomato-y (which might be what you want!)

i have a bream in the oven, stuffed it with lemon, garlic and parsley, threw a few slices of potato around it and i've got cabbage braising in some stock on the hob. been roasting fish a lot in the last few months, feels like one of the nicest things to eat without much effort.

Making a lamb shoulder tonight with broccoli and the serious eats roasted potatoes that I believe somebody posted on the other thread and have been intriguing me since.

how do you get to the point in life where you're putting heterodox ingredients like tea, maple syrup and fish sauce in tomato soup?

otm

its the food of my people

bored single men who spend a lot of time on food blogs

loltm

What are these blogs? Are they instant pot propagandists?

hey gbx do you do a natural release or quick release on the p.c. with this method?

mine's electric so i just do a slow release

should I get an instant pot? it seems like more like an appliance of convenience rather than one of, like, some crazy new benefit (like sous vide)

rfi: what is yr favorite way to prepare fennel?
preferably side dish but i'll take all comers

one place i worked at useda make a potato, fennel and leek gratin that was nice. other ideas: superthin sliced and put in a salad is great, too. or "melted", cooked slowly in olive oil with onions and garlic to get it really soft and borderline carmelised could be a nice side?

fennel is nice roasted

http://www.seriouseats.com/recipes/2015/02/vegan-ramen-miso-creamy-vegan-vegetarian-food-lab-recipe.html

going to cook this at the weekend

I like fennel raw in salads, sautéed with leeks & green beans, roasted & carved up with a piece of meat or fish

Jim: it's good. Double and freeze, for all the effort.

thanks everyone! pretty new to fennel. i tried braising it in stock & vermouth last night & it turned out delicious, keen to try some of these recommendations

http://www.seriouseats.com/recipes/2015/02/vegan-ramen-miso-creamy-vegan-vegetarian-food-lab-recipe.html

going to cook this at the weekend

― Islamic State of Mind (jim in vancouver), Tuesday, January 10, 2017 5:28 PM (yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

oh man i've been wanting to try that but its daunting --- soda, you've done it? how long did it take?

i like fennel here are some things

fen risotto, maybe w/ salami
fen & chickpea broth w/ lemon zest and chilli
fen & potato soup
baked fen in like a puttanesca sauce w/ orange zest and feta
roast pork w fen (add fen seeds to pork herb rub too)
any bit of wite fish w/ fen, thyme, rosemary, lemon zest, capers etc

pernod good to have around just for fen

also if u ever want to parboil fen for anything do it in milk, or mostly milk, and keep for mash potato or gratin later

I don't like fennel because it is anise-y. I feel like I need to broaden my horizons tho w/r/t winter vegetables, I can't only eat potatoes all year, and I love kale but let's be honest it's not in season in February.

A friend is coming over on Sat bc she wants advice on cooking large hunks of meat. Considering a pot roast alongside a rolled stuffed pork loin -- one easy, one complicated.

try parsnips! one of our favorite winter things is just roasted winter veggies (beets, onions, carrots, garlic, parsnips, turnips, potatoes) mixed up with some olive oil, rosemary, and a bit of sausage, cover and bake.

best way to enjoy fennel is to throw it in the damn garbage bcz it tastes like licorice and it is GROSS

I made a great pork dish with star anise the other night and the first time I made it I used like one star anise (recipe says 5) because I hate licorice but actually it's so subtle it's really good so I always use 5 now

THANK U STEVIE YOU <---> ME = SAME TEAM

anise and fennel are wonderful flavors

that said i have bought fennel bulbs in the past and they have rotted in my fridge bc i couldn't decide what to do with them fast enough :/

tbh I wish I didnt' loathe anise/fennel bcz it wd make things a lot easier but welp here we are, what can ya do

parsnips are the devil fyi

hmph

parsnips are fine, they're sweet and a lil weird but they're fine

quickest way to ruin a soup imo

THE DEVIL

parsnips are good caramelized together with other vegetables as the base for a winter soup stock, they contribute a lot of complexity and are similar to carrots w/ their sweetness. im not a fan of plain parsnips though

for burly winter root vegetables i prefer celeriac

I stand with VG.

Honey roast parsnips are my secret ingredient in a veggie soup

monsters, all of u

mushroom pizza that has a bunch of rehydrated porcinis sauteed with a load of criminis and garlic, on top of fontina, carmelized onions with rosemary playing the role of sauce on some bland-o plain white dough i made

haven't had farinata in years, might attempt this recipe for saturday lunch http://www.seriouseats.com/2015/05/how-to-make-farinata-italian-chickpea-pancake.html

we had my brother and his family over for dinner the other night. they love cooking indian and so do we, so we made a huge feast. i haven't cooked this much food in a while:

masoor dal
benghali green beans and potatoes
tomato sambal
summer squash w/ mustard seeds
saag tofu

All the way at the other end of the vegetarian-omnivore spectrum, I'm making beef stock today.

I agree with VG that parsnips would not work well in any soup I know about, but they roast well and were quite acceptable in a beef and peanut stew recipe my wife made just a few days ago.

I really like roasted parsnips but they are such a damn awkward shape--the top fat part and the itty bitty skinny end make it diffcult to get evenly-roasting pieces.

Did you make the puff pastry yourself or did you buy it?

Bought, Pepperidge Farm

good call, speaking as a former pastry chef, puff pastry is no fun unless you have a chilled rolling slab

waaaht can't believe WmC hasn't cooked puff pastry before! I use it in savoury tarts too, it's dead easy to make something really tasty.

roasted my first butternut squash of the season yesterday. with roasted red onion, cherry tomatoes and chorizo. bit of creme fraiche and lots of parmesan all stirred into pasta mmmmm

oh and put garlic in there too

xp I know, it's weird that I went through that many years without playing with puff. I may do a creamy mushroom tart one day soon.

I have realized a dream of my adult life: purchasing half a pig from a local teenage 4H farmer, to be butchered and portioned and stored in our chest freezer. we've done local organic meat co-ops and CSA type stuff before, but this is a big step up

this will happen in February-March but we just reserved it

oooh yum

Wow, that's awesome. Are you doing the deed or do you just get the product afterward? Do you get some sausage with that?

I believe the butchering takes place separately, yes there will be sausage

Sausage is excellent.

Tell them you want all the fat! If you don't actually want it, I will come get it and render it into lard!

duly noted!!

This is the way.

pork jowl opportunities

pork wonderful pork

I've done this a couple times and it's pretty great - I didn't want to commit to any particular sausage so I got it all as ground meat in 1lb bags. I also try to get the pork bellies whole which took some confirmation because the processing places just assume everyone wants it as bacon (which is good too).

I also got the hams fresh once instead of cured/smoked and regretted it - they didn't break down like a shoulder would and I never quite prepared one where I was happy with how it turned out.

that's all very good feedback, thank you!

If you get some unground shoulder, I highly recommend making this https://chiceats.com/recipe/fall-winter-mozza-home/spicy-pork-stew-butternut-squash-and-roasted-tomatillo-salsa

I want as many shoulder chunks as we can get!

I could use some soup advice. I need to be getting a lot more veggies into my diet, appetite is a problem due to a medication, and I thought soup would be my solution. I got a vitamix and I’ve made two soups so far that have been edible but v v disappointing.

1. Tossed brocc, cauli, onions in oil, a lil MSG, smoked paprika, Italian herbs and roasted. Also roasted chickpeas, carrots and potatoes in just paprika, and then a head of garlic. Blended with stock (BTB concentrate) and it was missing something so I added a little vinegar since I didn’t have any citrus. Mistake! Also added fresh spinach. It was just kind of blah. Edible mostly only because it was completely silky smooth.

2. Roasted Kabocha squash and onion with ground sage, roasted a garlic head and carrots and a little bit of Japanese sweet potato plain. Blended with white beans and some nutritional yeast and stock. Same thing! Just kinda blah.

I get that these aren’t like proper soups or whatever but as a lover of mush/baby food, I really thought I was on to a good thing and it sucks!

Are you looking for some thinner soup or chunkier stews?

Maybe lightly fry a little curry paste to kick start the base flavor profile? I like the Mae Plom brand and they last forever in the fridge

Def no chunks - I like a thick sort of silky purée. It’s easiest for me to tolerate eating.

I’m thinking potato leek?

my approach is always the same - sautee the vegetables, add herbs/spices for a few minutes, then add stock for another 10 minutes or so, then blend

in terms of herbs and spices it depends on the veggies but ground coriander is often good, salt n pepper obv.. you'd be surprised how far a little white pepper can go

kind of crazy your soups are bland with an entire head of garlic in them though

Also salt?

Everything tastes bad without salt.

i sort of assumed just1n3 was adding salt at some point but reading back yeah that could be a problem if not

i've made various versions of this zucchini soup more times than i can count

https://www.bbc.co.uk/food/recipes/italianstylezucchini_9833

Potato leek soup can be amazing, I swear by this one: https://food52.com/recipes/87209-potato-leek-soup-with-spiced-chickpeas-recipe

Also, you can really goose the flavor with peanut butter (substitute if you're allergic -- pretty sure tahini would work too), as in this Vegan Gambian Peanut Stew: https://rainbowplantlife.com/wprm_print/5657

the best thing about autumn vegetable soups is that you can make them up as you go along from a base of carrots/celery/onion fried in butter and whatever veg you have. I always add sweet potatoes, chilli flakes and garlic and hope for the best!

yeah potato leek is great, even bog standard potato leek.

grated parmesan and creme fraiche added to potato leek is so good.

something good to add to calzino's carrot base soup is some roasted butternut squash. and i'm not gonna lie i squeeze just a lil dollop of honey into the carrots when they're cooking.. sometimes a strip of bacon if i'm feeling, as the kids say, extra

the point where I thought I was becoming way too much of a sophisticate here was when I started seeing bacon as more of an ingredient or a pancetta proxy than summat to be wapped in 2 slices of bread, lol

Lol salt is a given, guys, I’m not a heathen!!

Ugh I didn’t want to fuck around cooking stuff, I just wanted to roast a bunch of stuff and dump in the blender 😖

that's all soup is really!

i don’t even roast anything usually, seems like too much work tbh

i have a great simple carrot / lentil soup that is easy good -i hate all the veggie soups i make except this one, i love it so much

it doesn’t look like much but its good

orange lentils are key bc they’re softer & blend up really smooth.

3 carrots chopped
1 onion choped
3 cloves garlic
2 sticks celery chopped
1 parsnip or 1 potato chopped (i dont do potatoes)
1 diced tomato or 1/2 can drained diced tomatoes
2 cups orange lentils
8 cups chicken stock

heat oil, add chopped veg except garlic
saute for 5 min on medium heat then lower heat & sweat veg covered for 10 min (don’t brown them)
return heat to medium
add tomato & garlic cook for 1 min
add lentils & chicken stock
bring to boil
turn to low heat & simmer gently for 45 min
stir occasionally

remove from heat
use a stick blender & blend until smooth

finish with pinch cayenne & pinch or two of cumin

Thanks everyone. I gotta avoid potatoes as a main ingredient and I really need to get in more leafy greens (except I hate bitter greens). If I’m adding spinach should I be blanching it instead of just blending it in raw? I didn’t think too hard about it but I guess cooking reduces the oxalates or whatever, which is probably preferable.

RE roasting - that’s my favorite way to cook: chop, toss in oil then bang in the oven and wait. My minimal soup research before this said that roasting was a great base for soups. I roasted a whole head of garlic and a whole medium onion (along with the other veg) thinking that would really up the flavors, but both soups were seriously the most blah soups I’ve ever made.

I like being able to blast it in the blender because then I can add beans or lentils, which I normally can’t deal with the texture of.

kind of crazy your soups are bland with an entire head of garlic in them though

― Tracer Hand

I’m roasting it so maybe that’s why it’s not adding enough punch?

Kabocha is by far my favorite squash/pumpkin but I don’t cook it often because it’s so hard to cut. During my soup research I discovered you just microwave it for like 2-3mins and then it’s super easy.

I do think the key is getting some pan browning going on your mirepoix or whatever yr base is, like frying the curry paste etc, then going to the blender

Kabocha is by far my favorite squash/pumpkin but I don’t cook it often because it’s so hard to cut. During my soup research I discovered you just microwave it for like 2-3mins and then it’s super easy.

― just1n3, Saturday, October 21, 2023 12:06 AM (eight hours ago) bookmarkflaglink

Best method for cooking winter squashes like butternut for soups is cut in half lengthwise, place cut side down in a rimmed baking dish, pour about 2 cups of water in the baking dish (the water should be about a quarter or a third of the way up the side of the squash), and bake in the oven at 350F for 45 minutes. Take it out, flip over or remove the squash to cool, then you can remove the roasted flesh from the skin with a spoon. You won't even need to puree it.

My favourite is a curried parsnip, lentil and apple
https://www.bbcgoodfood.com/recipes/curried-lentil-parsnip-apple-soup

I do it in the slow cooker but you can also just simmer for 30 mins. You gotta have the yogurt, cilantro etc with it!

kind of crazy your soups are bland with an entire head of garlic in them though

― Tracer Hand

I’m roasting it so maybe that’s why it’s not adding enough punch?

I made a pasta sauce that had loads of roasted garlic in it and it was still not very garlicky. Disappointing - need to find the perfect amount because roasted garlic is so nice.

I don't know if there are nutritive or even taste reasons for blanching, but I never do it because it's an extra step for what I think is just an aesthetic thing (it makes the spinach look brighter green).

started off making a basic ragu today and fancied some heat so threw some chilli flakes and green/red chillies in there. Added some bacon because why not. Added some lentils for that nice texture. Added some capers and olives then some fresh basil/parsley. It was haphazard make it up as you go along cooking that was sort of like puttanesca but I didn't have anchovies, but it worked out beautifully.

Restaurants blanch to help expedite servuce ime
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