the 2016 Rangda album on DC is also excellent fwiw
― sleeve, Thursday, 5 January 2017 21:11 (seven years ago) link
yeah i think i underrated that one at first, but i was playing it a bit last month and it is awesome.
― tylerw, Thursday, 5 January 2017 21:13 (seven years ago) link
I like it much more than album #2
― sleeve, Thursday, 5 January 2017 21:14 (seven years ago) link
these posts are pretty good. just wish they could be read to me on spotify.
― Sufjan Grafton, Thursday, 5 January 2017 21:17 (seven years ago) link
by wimmel's uncool cousins
― Sufjan Grafton, Thursday, 5 January 2017 21:18 (seven years ago) link
ILM would be much better if it was just a Pandora station tbh.
Howling Hex's Denver record from 2016 is very solid too -- might be my fave from his current phase, a little more varied, anyway. I just saw the Hex playing a weird afternoon residency (i think global did too!) last month. at a wine bar kinda place!
― tylerw, Thursday, 5 January 2017 21:19 (seven years ago) link
bill callahan + will oldham alone probably make DC one of my favorite labels tbh. other stuff is great too
― marcos, Thursday, 5 January 2017 21:19 (seven years ago) link
ooh thx for the link to In C!!
― Οὖτις, Thursday, 5 January 2017 21:21 (seven years ago) link
ha yea listening now too, thanks
― marcos, Thursday, 5 January 2017 21:21 (seven years ago) link
rangdaali roberts6 organsbbs
these are some of my favorite people making records today, so i am glad to support thembandcamp is (imo) DC's best bet for satisfying longterm reliable customers (like me) and allowing weenie freeloaders (spotify cousins) to hear in order to form an opinionbeyond that, it's not really my decision to make and i have been buying DC records for what seems like forever
― weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Thursday, 5 January 2017 21:22 (seven years ago) link
xxxp I listen to bill's kath bloom cover on spotify all of the time to help me cope
― Sufjan Grafton, Thursday, 5 January 2017 21:23 (seven years ago) link
annual In C performance is always a good time, hope they keep it up!
― weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Thursday, 5 January 2017 21:23 (seven years ago) link
I think Spotify Cousins are signed to Jagjaguwar, not Drag City
― tylerw, Thursday, 5 January 2017 21:24 (seven years ago) link
maybe Sacred Bones
― weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Thursday, 5 January 2017 21:24 (seven years ago) link
i should really give rangda a listen, those SRB albums are some of my favorite guitar records ever, i love those early six organs albums a lot too
― marcos, Thursday, 5 January 2017 21:25 (seven years ago) link
Wimmels' cousins could be Link Wray
― Sufjan Grafton, Thursday, 5 January 2017 21:26 (seven years ago) link
Only Wimmels knows the degree to which we're burnt
― Sufjan Grafton, Thursday, 5 January 2017 21:27 (seven years ago) link
Congratulations: you are my uncool cousins, Bjork and Roy Orbison
― Sufjan Grafton, Thursday, 5 January 2017 21:28 (seven years ago) link
xp new 6O has Chris Corsano on it too, he is awesome (and part of what I love about Rangda)
― weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Thursday, 5 January 2017 21:28 (seven years ago) link
i probably said this on the BBs thread, but part of the reason i think Drag City not being on streaming is good is that it miiiiiiight make "uncool cousins" realize that there is a world of music out there that isn't just spotifiable. and that might generate a little interest in the world outside of the computer. or it might just generate more insufferable snobs like us, probably.
― tylerw, Thursday, 5 January 2017 21:32 (seven years ago) link
it is not difficult to make music that is unspotifiable. I don't understand how this is a good or impressive thing.
― Sufjan Grafton, Thursday, 5 January 2017 21:36 (seven years ago) link
it's the coolest!
― tylerw, Thursday, 5 January 2017 21:39 (seven years ago) link
(i don't know, i'm not really making sense)
― tylerw, Thursday, 5 January 2017 21:40 (seven years ago) link
insufferable snob generator is the name of my new band
― Οὖτις, Thursday, 5 January 2017 21:42 (seven years ago) link
well, better get your stuff on Spotify or no one will know it exists
― Wimmels, Thursday, 5 January 2017 21:51 (seven years ago) link
that name's not as good though
― Vote! In the 2016 EOY Poll! (seandalai), Thursday, 5 January 2017 21:53 (seven years ago) link
the thing that's annoying about the "if your music isn't on Spotify no one will know it exists! Think of the exposure!" argument is that it neatly elides the fact that there are bajillions of bands on Spotify that no one knows about. It is not a promotional tool, unless you pay Spotify to promote you/expend resources working it as a PR tool, which will quickly eat up the miniscule revenue generated by Spotify.
― Οὖτις, Thursday, 5 January 2017 22:04 (seven years ago) link
Well, but I think it can be argued that it can be an auxiliary promotional tool if you are getting promotion in other ways and people can then check you out on Spotify.
― timellison, Friday, 6 January 2017 01:03 (seven years ago) link
people do ask "are you on Spotify?" when they e.g. work with you in some personal capacity (kids' teachers etc) and if you say yes, they go listen, and then a week later they say "I looked you up! say, I enjoyed the song I knew from the tv show!" - I guess outis's objection here would be "that translates into maybe one album sale for you, not really a huge promotional gain" but I'm gonna get three bucks of that sale and I can use three bucks so it counts for me. not as great a promotional tool as radio, ever, let's be honest, just because somebody still has to go "I'm going to listen to this": the passivity of radio engagement had huge promotional value. but Spotify as a promotional adjunct, it's got its uses ime.
― though she denies it to the press, (Joan Crawford Loves Chachi), Friday, 6 January 2017 01:46 (seven years ago) link
As opposed to just typing your bandname into a search engine and being taken to band's page w soundcloud or bandcamp or other music links
― Οὖτις, Friday, 6 January 2017 01:55 (seven years ago) link
yeah I mean -- you're a lifelong music fiend posting on a music board. that's obvious to both you and me. I can't imagine it's surprising to you that there's a gigantic segment of the population for whom a few very comfortable uses of technology are the go-tos. I utterly guarantee you that there are many many people (like, millions) who'll go as far as "I'm using spotify, I'll type in that band's name" who aren't about to google a band, pick a link, and pursue it that far
― though she denies it to the press, (Joan Crawford Loves Chachi), Friday, 6 January 2017 02:33 (seven years ago) link
That's true. How many of those ppl are likely to dig Drag City bands? I would wager not a lot.
― Οὖτις, Friday, 6 January 2017 02:45 (seven years ago) link
As opposed to the music nerds here complaining that DC's catalog is not on spotify - which is essentially entitled whining.
― Οὖτις, Friday, 6 January 2017 02:48 (seven years ago) link
what I am reporting to you as a working musician is that the positive effect of availability on Spotify is real, measurable, and valuable. the same people who dig what I do -- the appeal of which is inherently self-limiting -- would be as likely to dig Bill Callahan for sure.
― though she denies it to the press, (Joan Crawford Loves Chachi), Friday, 6 January 2017 03:00 (seven years ago) link
They've also been the label never to advertise (Chunklet excepted), never to license their songs to Starbucks/Chipotle, and so not being on streaming services feels like a natural continuation of that. And their artists know what they're getting into with that.
― who even are those other cats (Eazy), Friday, 6 January 2017 03:03 (seven years ago) link
still doing it the right way, they are
― charlie brown from outta town (GM), Friday, 6 January 2017 04:01 (seven years ago) link
i haven't been following this revive closely but i will say that i've liked a lot of dc acts over the years but given my limited time for new listening these days i'm gonna pick the new record that's on spotify over the new record that's on dc which i won't be able to play without 5 minutes of effort on my part.
― call all destroyer, Friday, 6 January 2017 04:18 (seven years ago) link
like, it's a great label but i don't think they have a strong enough brand to override other forces at work.
― call all destroyer, Friday, 6 January 2017 04:20 (seven years ago) link
otm. Though I did buy insignificance the other month because I loved it in high school and hadn't heard it in years. I don't think I love it anymore, so good work, DC.
― Sufjan Grafton, Friday, 6 January 2017 04:33 (seven years ago) link
"I kinda wish their stuff was on Spotify"="entitled whining"
Jesus.
― 𝐌𝐀𝐁-BAM-O BAM A – 𝐔𝐒-H US SEIN-U.S.-UNITED STATES (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Friday, 6 January 2017 07:37 (seven years ago) link
I guess it kind of fits that most of DC's roster now is indie-grandpa music and y'all are yelling at clouds.
― 𝐌𝐀𝐁-BAM-O BAM A – 𝐔𝐒-H US SEIN-U.S.-UNITED STATES (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Friday, 6 January 2017 07:55 (seven years ago) link
I just wish they kept selling t-shirts. Have a Viva Last Blues one I'd pray to fit into to.
Also: don't think Oldham, Callahan, Berman besides being old man indie have problems with a label that's given them notoriety and which they've never left. Give me a list of Drag City refugees... I can't think of any.
― the ilx meme is critical of that line of thought (lion in winter), Friday, 6 January 2017 08:18 (seven years ago) link
hehe I like this post
what's up with bitchin bajas, what a weird name for a band, listening to a song called "bueu" on youtube rn and it's awesome, is that the album to get? if so I'm buying the shit out of that cd, won't even bother to look it up on spotify
― niels, Friday, 6 January 2017 08:20 (seven years ago) link
bought 'Dream River' for a friend last year and he did seem to have like a eureka moment when he realized this awesome music was not on spotify
― niels, Friday, 6 January 2017 08:25 (seven years ago) link
yeah this is OTM for the most part. of course their stuff is avail on iTunes, whose royalty rate is set by Apple and non-negotiable, which you'd think would be a sticking point for the purer-than-pure but hey, a sale's a sale
― though she denies it to the press, (Joan Crawford Loves Chachi), Friday, 6 January 2017 11:58 (seven years ago) link
I know O'Rourke doesn't want his music on Spotify because of sound quality issues rather than royalty rate issues, wonder if other DC artists feel the same way
― Darcy Sarto (Ward Fowler), Friday, 6 January 2017 12:02 (seven years ago) link
I just wind up thinking about Drag City a lot less often because they don't come up in the main channels I use for checking out music.
This is such a strange viewpoint IMO. I mean, what were you doing five years ago when Spotify wasn't available?
― donut, Friday, 6 January 2017 12:56 (seven years ago) link
http://i.imgur.com/zSb64B1.png
― niels, Friday, 6 January 2017 13:00 (seven years ago) link
It’s interesting how Drag City doesn’t have any of their stuff on Spotify. I work in a restaurant, and I’m always trying and failing to play Trux or your solo music.
Neil Hagerty: There actually is one streaming service they license to, but it’s very specific to a hotel chain, or a hotel lobby, or some restaurants that are a part of its network. But that’s a different, smaller service. Personally, I’m for having the music in every venue where people can hear it, but I defer to Drag City for those things. I don’t make those decisions, they do. Personally, I would let it go out in any format that would give more people the opportunity to hear it, you know? But that’s a separation of our interests. They’ll feel another way, and I’ll defer to them on those issues.http://bombmagazine.org/article/6931428/neil-michael-hagerty
― Mike Dixn, Friday, 6 January 2017 13:20 (seven years ago) link
― donut, Friday, January 6, 2017 7:56 AM (one hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
I believe man alive was analyzing why DC is unintentionally not at the top of mind these days, based on how music consumption habits have changed. That's how I read it.
― Evan, Friday, 6 January 2017 14:49 (seven years ago) link