George Michael R.I.P.

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I like Carl but that obit is like the annoying guy at a Q&A who makes a rambling statement instead of a question

And the feet line is great whichever way you read it

Chuck_Tatum, Wednesday, 28 December 2016 08:46 (seven years ago) link

I’ve also come to love that he was born Georgios Kyriacos Panayiotou in North London, emerging from an old-fashioned kind of immigrant background and name change for a pop singer, rather like a second closet. It explains both his long-term, for-all-ages vocal approach and why he was never a punk rocker. Subsequently, that’s why, given the era, he had so little cool cred. He was suburban, not abjectly working class, yet his parents didn’t even let him buy pop records. (He was hearing mainly Tom Jones and Henry Mancini at home but Queen and Elton John on the radio.) So his threshold for rebellion was much lower than for many of his London peers. Pop would do. Plus, the punk kids weren’t the beautiful people, and—at least after he met his more stylish adolescent bandmate—he wanted to be one of those

This is so snobby and wrong

Chuck_Tatum, Wednesday, 28 December 2016 08:52 (seven years ago) link

Whatever, I know for a fact the cool kids of his generation (your clubbing-with-Leigh-Bowery types) utterly adored him and saw him as a peer.

jane burkini (suzy), Wednesday, 28 December 2016 09:26 (seven years ago) link

Considering he literally wrote the book on it, he still has cloth ears for pop and pop audiences (especially female ones)

Chuck_Tatum, Wednesday, 28 December 2016 13:05 (seven years ago) link

Well, he's honest -- he admits he's not a pop guy.

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 28 December 2016 13:15 (seven years ago) link

It explains both his long-term, for-all-ages vocal approach and why he was never a punk rocker.

Too young to be a punk rocker ffs

Eats like Elvis, shits like De Niro (Tom D.), Wednesday, 28 December 2016 13:30 (seven years ago) link

Unless he means listening to Discharge and Crass and hanging about the town centre with 2 litre plastic bottles of cider.

Eats like Elvis, shits like De Niro (Tom D.), Wednesday, 28 December 2016 13:32 (seven years ago) link

check out the iTunes top 100 videos right now

http://www.apple.com/uk/itunes/charts/music-videos/

piscesx, Wednesday, 28 December 2016 13:55 (seven years ago) link

:)

Chuck_Tatum, Wednesday, 28 December 2016 13:57 (seven years ago) link

Interesting to compare against the US list: http://www.apple.com/itunes/charts/music-videos/

Chuck_Tatum, Wednesday, 28 December 2016 14:00 (seven years ago) link

xxp he shunned punk rock in favour of forming a two-tone inspired ska outfit called "The Executive"

http://george.michael.szm.com/Special/Tribute/Texecut.html

http://george.michael.szm.com/Special/Tribute/Texecut.html

soref, Wednesday, 28 December 2016 14:07 (seven years ago) link

Why is Careless Whisper twice on both lists? SD and HD versions of the video? If you combined the sales on both versions, would it top the list?

Tuomas, Wednesday, 28 December 2016 14:19 (seven years ago) link

Maybe it's just the musical arrangements but 'Cowboys & Angels' gives me such a Bacharach vibe.

Flamenco Drop (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 28 December 2016 16:33 (seven years ago) link

it's always this way with iTunes for some reason. versions of songs that may have slightly different edits/lengths on different albums and compilations get counted separately. sometimes it's just the difference between an album mix and a single mix (as with Wham!'s Freedom which has 2 different mixes) but also often it's the exact same track just classed as a different song because the edit is a few seconds longer or whatever. with videos I guess it's a smilar thing; slight variations between compiled versions. there are 2 different DVD/video compilations (Ladies And Gentlemen and Twenty Five) too, which have similar track lists but perhaps slightly different lengths on some songs. it's confusing man.

piscesx, Wednesday, 28 December 2016 17:06 (seven years ago) link

I’ve also come to love that he was born Georgios Kyriacos Panayiotou in North London, emerging from an old-fashioned kind of immigrant background and name change for a pop singer, rather like a second closet. It explains both his long-term, for-all-ages vocal approach and why he was never a punk rocker. Subsequently, that’s why, given the era, he had so little cool cred. He was suburban, not abjectly working class, yet his parents didn’t even let him buy pop records. (He was hearing mainly Tom Jones and Henry Mancini at home but Queen and Elton John on the radio.) So his threshold for rebellion was much lower than for many of his London peers. Pop would do. Plus, the punk kids weren’t the beautiful people, and—at least after he met his more stylish adolescent bandmate—he wanted to be one of those.

this feels right to me. and not snobby.

george was also just not rock-press cool cos he was working from more of a pop and soul set of influences. also, too smooth for rockists. i tuned out mostly from his music after the late 90s, but was a massive fan in the 80s. i also grew up in the burbs, son of immigrants, etc, though ofc, never knew that part of his background. he def became a bit more of a classicist (or at least thought of pop in historical terms more and more as he got older, which that quote in the slate piece hints at) IIRC and i think this maybe undid him. i should go back and relisten to his albums though. i hadnt really thought about him in a very long time.

StillAdvance, Thursday, 29 December 2016 10:10 (seven years ago) link

at the peak of his charm and warmth:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zo4JAfGVDNE

Also, he looks great

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 29 December 2016 14:05 (seven years ago) link

the title track to "Older", which I just heard for the first time, is delightfully moody.

Neanderthal, Thursday, 29 December 2016 14:45 (seven years ago) link

I watched the movie Keanu a few days before he died which was sort of a weird coincidence, it was as far as I remember the only time I'd heard a sincere-sounding tribute to George Michael. Listening to Faith now and yeah, this is like a good Prince album. Now I regret sleeping on the guy.

frogbs, Thursday, 29 December 2016 15:21 (seven years ago) link

Now I regret sleeping on the guy.

sounds like a missed opportunity

Neanderthal, Thursday, 29 December 2016 15:22 (seven years ago) link

xxp he shunned punk rock in favour of forming a two-tone inspired ska outfit called "The Executive"

http://george.michael.szm.com/Special/Tribute/Texecut.html

http://george.michael.szm.com/Special/Tribute/Texecut.html

― soref, Wednesday, December 28, 2016 9:07 AM (yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Small snippet here:

https://youtu.be/qCzjjLTTJS8?t=9m7s

how's life, Thursday, 29 December 2016 15:23 (seven years ago) link

I always did love the lyric "Sex is natural, sex is good, not everybody does it, but everybody should"

frogbs, Thursday, 29 December 2016 15:24 (seven years ago) link

i dont know if he ever spoke much about prince (or vice versa) but sleep around (from prince's emancipation) has always seemed like prince paying tribute to GM (or just liking something like fast love and being inspired by it).

StillAdvance, Thursday, 29 December 2016 15:26 (seven years ago) link

Fastlove is an incredible, incredible song.

Hey Bob (Scik Mouthy), Thursday, 29 December 2016 18:40 (seven years ago) link

So much vulnerability in something so hedonistic. So much honesty.

Hey Bob (Scik Mouthy), Thursday, 29 December 2016 18:40 (seven years ago) link

IN THE ABSENCE OF SECURITY

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 29 December 2016 19:23 (seven years ago) link

Friday night on BBC4 in the Uk

http://www.radiotimes.com/news/2016-12-29/bbc-to-show-night-of-programmes-dedicated-to-george-michael#amph=1

piscesx, Thursday, 29 December 2016 19:30 (seven years ago) link

I was listening to 'Fastlove' earlier and I'd love to know what the writing process for the track was like... I love how the track slides effortlessly from the main part of the song into the "outro" section, with the 'Forget Me Nots' sample... it's so seamless and the sample is integrated into the track superbly well. The "ooh ooh hey baby" and "gotta get up to get down" hooks fit as snugly alongside that sample and they do in the main body of the song. It's a far better use of the sample than that Will Smith track, too.

Working night & day, I tried to stay awake... (Turrican), Thursday, 29 December 2016 20:33 (seven years ago) link

always just assumed that whoever produced the Will Smith song heard Fastlove and thought 'we'll have that as well'

PaulTMA, Saturday, 31 December 2016 14:35 (seven years ago) link

"In the absence of security" always makes me picture him dismissing his three Russian bodyguards for the night before walking over to the boardwalk.

who even are those other cats (Eazy), Saturday, 31 December 2016 16:05 (seven years ago) link

You're welcome!

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 2 January 2017 23:51 (seven years ago) link

two months pass...

A British coroner says George Michael died of natural causes as the result of heart disease and a fatty liver. Darren Salter, senior coroner for Oxfordshire, says a post-mortem has found that the singer died of "dilated cardiomyopathy with myocarditis and fatty liver."

Dilated cardiomyopathy is a condition in which the heart's ability to pump blood is limited, while myocarditis is inflammation of the heart muscle.

the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 7 March 2017 16:15 (seven years ago) link

Guy at work* today, who grew up in the same area, says he knows one of George Michael's cousins and that, according to the cousin, he'd put on an enormous amount of weight in the last year or so.

(*almost but not quite 'man in pub', I admit)

Return of the Flustered Bootle Native (Tom D.), Tuesday, 7 March 2017 18:21 (seven years ago) link

seven months pass...

In which six of us commemorate the 30th anniversary of Faith.

morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 28 October 2017 20:56 (six years ago) link

this thread title is still such a heartsinker

estela, Sunday, 29 October 2017 06:57 (six years ago) link

yeah

illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Sunday, 29 October 2017 10:14 (six years ago) link

yes

maura, Sunday, 29 October 2017 13:32 (six years ago) link

I spent late yesterday afternoon watching a bunch of clips and was in the hole again.

morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 29 October 2017 13:40 (six years ago) link

I said this on the Listen Without Prejudice thread, but I really wish he'd put out more music. I loved (still love) his voice, but he deserved more respect as a songwriter.

Gholdfish Killah (Turrican), Sunday, 29 October 2017 18:48 (six years ago) link

one month passes...

Still hurts. Am drunk, and about to watch the Ladies And Gentlmen DVD all the way through til collapse.

piscesx, Tuesday, 26 December 2017 22:13 (six years ago) link

this is still the worst

flamenco drop (BradNelson), Tuesday, 26 December 2017 23:01 (six years ago) link

otm ;_;

Squeaky Fromage (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 26 December 2017 23:38 (six years ago) link

yes :(

maura, Wednesday, 27 December 2017 04:20 (six years ago) link

One of my Xmas presents (thanks, sis!) was the LWP deluxe package. I spent last night watching The South Bank Show episode from 1990 included. Man, did he look hot in that period, at the peak of his musicianship.

morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 27 December 2017 04:34 (six years ago) link

eleven months pass...

you need to correct "Uet" in your subheading. This has made me want to listen to LWP again right now, so thanks!

brokenshire (jed_), Monday, 17 December 2018 03:22 (five years ago) link

Lovely top 5, Alfred. I haven’t gotten over his passing either.

Squeaky Fromage (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 17 December 2018 05:13 (five years ago) link

My friend shared a very cute story today about her 3 year old.

“Important- G. asks us to play the “Save me some tears” song Friday night. We are perplexed. Saturday, we’re driving and Wham’s Last Christmas comes on. “Here it is Mom. My favorite song!” and proceeds to sing 80% correct lyrics at full volume. Also, telling me it’s her turn to sing-“not you Mom.”

Benson and the Jets (ENBB), Monday, 17 December 2018 11:27 (five years ago) link

ten months pass...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M1kWLPGUKcs

just another country (snoball), Wednesday, 6 November 2019 18:59 (four years ago) link

ten months pass...

Nailed it

https://c.files.bbci.co.uk/7314/production/_114406492_georgemic1.jpg

groovypanda, Saturday, 19 September 2020 16:50 (three years ago) link


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