George Michael R.I.P.

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what'd they drink?

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 27 December 2016 17:20 (seven years ago) link

tea, iirc!

A big shout out goes to the lamb chops, thos lamb chops (ulysses), Tuesday, 27 December 2016 17:23 (seven years ago) link

I remember reading a reprint of an NME interview with Michael from the mid-80s, iirc NME had been very positive about Wham Rap and Young Guns (Go For It), giving them single of the week etc, but had turned against them when they did Club Tropicana, Wake Me Up Before You Go-Go etc and became full on Smash Hits approved pop stars, the interview was basically a debate between GM and the NME journalist, with GM accusing them of being too-cool-for school snobs who rejected them for being too popular and the NME journalist accusing Wham of going middle of the road and bland.

soref, Tuesday, 27 December 2016 17:27 (seven years ago) link

I mean, this is all way before my time, but that's what I inferred from this reprinted interview. I guess that Wham hit their peak just at around the time that what the NME reading students were into and what was in the top 20 was being beginning to diverge with "indie" becoming a thing?

soref, Tuesday, 27 December 2016 17:31 (seven years ago) link

I still have that 1998 Q issue - GM seemed relieved and happier for it (unlike, say the early 90s for example).

He said it was possibly not the easiest way to handle it, but the fact it was now 'over' was the point.

Master of Treacle, Tuesday, 27 December 2016 17:34 (seven years ago) link

There was nothing wrong with Smash Hits at all. In fact, looking back through the archives has made me realise just how OTM they were a lot of the time.

Working night & day, I tried to stay awake... (Turrican), Tuesday, 27 December 2016 17:40 (seven years ago) link

Neil Tennant wrote that SH interview.

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 27 December 2016 17:44 (seven years ago) link

Was playing around with "Wake Me Up Before You Go Go" at home and realized it's got a vocal range of two full octaves.

timellison, Tuesday, 27 December 2016 22:31 (seven years ago) link

I spun Faith a couple of hours ago - 'Hand to Mouth' stood out to me this time around for some reason.

Working night & day, I tried to stay awake... (Turrican), Tuesday, 27 December 2016 22:55 (seven years ago) link

I've always loved that one.

Neanderthal, Tuesday, 27 December 2016 23:01 (seven years ago) link

I never think of "I Want Your Sex" as a great single, but listening to Faith again today, I gotta say I like it a lot better in its two-part 10-minute form.

rhymes with "blondie blast" (cryptosicko), Tuesday, 27 December 2016 23:03 (seven years ago) link

Also, knowing now about GM's generosity and charity work has enhanced 'Praying For Time' for me, particularly the second verse. The song feels much more sincere to me than it did beforehand.

Working night & day, I tried to stay awake... (Turrican), Tuesday, 27 December 2016 23:04 (seven years ago) link

xpost:

The sudden transition from Part 1 to Part 2 on IWYS is one of the best moments on the album for me, at least musically.

Working night & day, I tried to stay awake... (Turrican), Tuesday, 27 December 2016 23:06 (seven years ago) link

The first ("I Want Your Sex") and last ("Kissing a Fool") Faith were the weakest.

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 27 December 2016 23:59 (seven years ago) link

*Faith singles

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 27 December 2016 23:59 (seven years ago) link

Mark Simpson in Rolling Stone:

http://www.rollingstone.com/culture/features/george-michael-gay-link-between-david-bowie-david-beckham-w457892

soref, Wednesday, 28 December 2016 00:04 (seven years ago) link

"I don't want any children; I don't want responsibility," [George Michael] told Time Out matter-of-factly in 2007. "I am gay, I smoke weed and I do exactly what I want in my life because of my talent

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 28 December 2016 00:15 (seven years ago) link

George Michael and Wham were huge for me as a kid, I played my tape of Faith until it wore out. I love how many smooth jazz versions exist of Careless Whisper. Just sad that he pass so young.

JacobSanders, Wednesday, 28 December 2016 02:17 (seven years ago) link

https://insideplaya.org/2016/12/27/a-black-thing/

JacobSanders, Wednesday, 28 December 2016 02:17 (seven years ago) link

From a giggly teen viewpoint, “guilty feet” was a hilariously maladroit personification, too fleshy and too cerebral all at once. But now, as an image of a humiliated and stricken queer body, of a person too ashamed to dance in a culture of dance clubs, it doesn’t seem silly at all.

who even are those other cats (Eazy), Wednesday, 28 December 2016 05:17 (seven years ago) link

I like Carl but that obit is like the annoying guy at a Q&A who makes a rambling statement instead of a question

And the feet line is great whichever way you read it

Chuck_Tatum, Wednesday, 28 December 2016 08:46 (seven years ago) link

I’ve also come to love that he was born Georgios Kyriacos Panayiotou in North London, emerging from an old-fashioned kind of immigrant background and name change for a pop singer, rather like a second closet. It explains both his long-term, for-all-ages vocal approach and why he was never a punk rocker. Subsequently, that’s why, given the era, he had so little cool cred. He was suburban, not abjectly working class, yet his parents didn’t even let him buy pop records. (He was hearing mainly Tom Jones and Henry Mancini at home but Queen and Elton John on the radio.) So his threshold for rebellion was much lower than for many of his London peers. Pop would do. Plus, the punk kids weren’t the beautiful people, and—at least after he met his more stylish adolescent bandmate—he wanted to be one of those

This is so snobby and wrong

Chuck_Tatum, Wednesday, 28 December 2016 08:52 (seven years ago) link

Whatever, I know for a fact the cool kids of his generation (your clubbing-with-Leigh-Bowery types) utterly adored him and saw him as a peer.

jane burkini (suzy), Wednesday, 28 December 2016 09:26 (seven years ago) link

Considering he literally wrote the book on it, he still has cloth ears for pop and pop audiences (especially female ones)

Chuck_Tatum, Wednesday, 28 December 2016 13:05 (seven years ago) link

Well, he's honest -- he admits he's not a pop guy.

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 28 December 2016 13:15 (seven years ago) link

It explains both his long-term, for-all-ages vocal approach and why he was never a punk rocker.

Too young to be a punk rocker ffs

Eats like Elvis, shits like De Niro (Tom D.), Wednesday, 28 December 2016 13:30 (seven years ago) link

Unless he means listening to Discharge and Crass and hanging about the town centre with 2 litre plastic bottles of cider.

Eats like Elvis, shits like De Niro (Tom D.), Wednesday, 28 December 2016 13:32 (seven years ago) link

check out the iTunes top 100 videos right now

http://www.apple.com/uk/itunes/charts/music-videos/

piscesx, Wednesday, 28 December 2016 13:55 (seven years ago) link

:)

Chuck_Tatum, Wednesday, 28 December 2016 13:57 (seven years ago) link

Interesting to compare against the US list: http://www.apple.com/itunes/charts/music-videos/

Chuck_Tatum, Wednesday, 28 December 2016 14:00 (seven years ago) link

xxp he shunned punk rock in favour of forming a two-tone inspired ska outfit called "The Executive"

http://george.michael.szm.com/Special/Tribute/Texecut.html

http://george.michael.szm.com/Special/Tribute/Texecut.html

soref, Wednesday, 28 December 2016 14:07 (seven years ago) link

Why is Careless Whisper twice on both lists? SD and HD versions of the video? If you combined the sales on both versions, would it top the list?

Tuomas, Wednesday, 28 December 2016 14:19 (seven years ago) link

Maybe it's just the musical arrangements but 'Cowboys & Angels' gives me such a Bacharach vibe.

Flamenco Drop (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 28 December 2016 16:33 (seven years ago) link

it's always this way with iTunes for some reason. versions of songs that may have slightly different edits/lengths on different albums and compilations get counted separately. sometimes it's just the difference between an album mix and a single mix (as with Wham!'s Freedom which has 2 different mixes) but also often it's the exact same track just classed as a different song because the edit is a few seconds longer or whatever. with videos I guess it's a smilar thing; slight variations between compiled versions. there are 2 different DVD/video compilations (Ladies And Gentlemen and Twenty Five) too, which have similar track lists but perhaps slightly different lengths on some songs. it's confusing man.

piscesx, Wednesday, 28 December 2016 17:06 (seven years ago) link

I’ve also come to love that he was born Georgios Kyriacos Panayiotou in North London, emerging from an old-fashioned kind of immigrant background and name change for a pop singer, rather like a second closet. It explains both his long-term, for-all-ages vocal approach and why he was never a punk rocker. Subsequently, that’s why, given the era, he had so little cool cred. He was suburban, not abjectly working class, yet his parents didn’t even let him buy pop records. (He was hearing mainly Tom Jones and Henry Mancini at home but Queen and Elton John on the radio.) So his threshold for rebellion was much lower than for many of his London peers. Pop would do. Plus, the punk kids weren’t the beautiful people, and—at least after he met his more stylish adolescent bandmate—he wanted to be one of those.

this feels right to me. and not snobby.

george was also just not rock-press cool cos he was working from more of a pop and soul set of influences. also, too smooth for rockists. i tuned out mostly from his music after the late 90s, but was a massive fan in the 80s. i also grew up in the burbs, son of immigrants, etc, though ofc, never knew that part of his background. he def became a bit more of a classicist (or at least thought of pop in historical terms more and more as he got older, which that quote in the slate piece hints at) IIRC and i think this maybe undid him. i should go back and relisten to his albums though. i hadnt really thought about him in a very long time.

StillAdvance, Thursday, 29 December 2016 10:10 (seven years ago) link

at the peak of his charm and warmth:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zo4JAfGVDNE

Also, he looks great

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 29 December 2016 14:05 (seven years ago) link

the title track to "Older", which I just heard for the first time, is delightfully moody.

Neanderthal, Thursday, 29 December 2016 14:45 (seven years ago) link

I watched the movie Keanu a few days before he died which was sort of a weird coincidence, it was as far as I remember the only time I'd heard a sincere-sounding tribute to George Michael. Listening to Faith now and yeah, this is like a good Prince album. Now I regret sleeping on the guy.

frogbs, Thursday, 29 December 2016 15:21 (seven years ago) link

Now I regret sleeping on the guy.

sounds like a missed opportunity

Neanderthal, Thursday, 29 December 2016 15:22 (seven years ago) link

xxp he shunned punk rock in favour of forming a two-tone inspired ska outfit called "The Executive"

http://george.michael.szm.com/Special/Tribute/Texecut.html

http://george.michael.szm.com/Special/Tribute/Texecut.html

― soref, Wednesday, December 28, 2016 9:07 AM (yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Small snippet here:

https://youtu.be/qCzjjLTTJS8?t=9m7s

how's life, Thursday, 29 December 2016 15:23 (seven years ago) link

I always did love the lyric "Sex is natural, sex is good, not everybody does it, but everybody should"

frogbs, Thursday, 29 December 2016 15:24 (seven years ago) link

i dont know if he ever spoke much about prince (or vice versa) but sleep around (from prince's emancipation) has always seemed like prince paying tribute to GM (or just liking something like fast love and being inspired by it).

StillAdvance, Thursday, 29 December 2016 15:26 (seven years ago) link

Fastlove is an incredible, incredible song.

Hey Bob (Scik Mouthy), Thursday, 29 December 2016 18:40 (seven years ago) link

So much vulnerability in something so hedonistic. So much honesty.

Hey Bob (Scik Mouthy), Thursday, 29 December 2016 18:40 (seven years ago) link

IN THE ABSENCE OF SECURITY

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 29 December 2016 19:23 (seven years ago) link

Friday night on BBC4 in the Uk

http://www.radiotimes.com/news/2016-12-29/bbc-to-show-night-of-programmes-dedicated-to-george-michael#amph=1

piscesx, Thursday, 29 December 2016 19:30 (seven years ago) link

I was listening to 'Fastlove' earlier and I'd love to know what the writing process for the track was like... I love how the track slides effortlessly from the main part of the song into the "outro" section, with the 'Forget Me Nots' sample... it's so seamless and the sample is integrated into the track superbly well. The "ooh ooh hey baby" and "gotta get up to get down" hooks fit as snugly alongside that sample and they do in the main body of the song. It's a far better use of the sample than that Will Smith track, too.

Working night & day, I tried to stay awake... (Turrican), Thursday, 29 December 2016 20:33 (seven years ago) link

always just assumed that whoever produced the Will Smith song heard Fastlove and thought 'we'll have that as well'

PaulTMA, Saturday, 31 December 2016 14:35 (seven years ago) link


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