Star Wars Anthology shit talk (Rogue One, Young Solo, TBD)

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possibly painkillers. either way I'd have thought article writer might have surmised through his frailty and the obviousness of his lines that dude who probably can't take a crap without a machine might be ok getting Kevorkianed once Jedha City blows up.

Indeed, he couldn't have outrun the disaster even if he'd wanted to

I hear from this arsehole again, he's going in the river (James Morrison), Friday, 23 December 2016 01:38 (seven years ago) link

can't wait for the reveal that Finn is Saw's grandkid or something in the next movie

Neanderthal, Friday, 23 December 2016 01:41 (seven years ago) link

Finger Era

a Warren Beatty film about Earth (El Tomboto), Friday, 23 December 2016 01:44 (seven years ago) link

Shhhh! I haven't yet had a chance to publish my Saw Gerrera/Mon Mothma fanfic yet

xp

Al Moon Faced Poon (Moodles), Friday, 23 December 2016 01:44 (seven years ago) link

glad Lucas wasn't allowed near this flick, during the Evazan fan service moment he probably woulda thrown in a line like "come, Jyn, we don't want things to get out of hand"

Neanderthal, Friday, 23 December 2016 01:51 (seven years ago) link

I couldn't watch Whitaker without thinking of "Blue Velvet," tbh.

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 23 December 2016 02:31 (seven years ago) link

glad Lucas wasn't allowed near this flick, during the Evazan fan service moment he probably woulda thrown in a line like "come, Jyn, we don't want things to get out of hand"
― Neanderthal

yeah, instead top class zingers like "don't choke on your ambition", huh.

attention vampire (MatthewK), Friday, 23 December 2016 05:13 (seven years ago) link

it's "don't choke on your aspirations", get it right GOD

Neanderthal, Friday, 23 December 2016 05:20 (seven years ago) link

Saw this today, enjoyed it. Local coffee guy this morning said to me "It's not a great film but it's a kickass good film" and I'll go with that. Might like it better than TFA at this point. More later when I've caught up on this thread properly.

Ned Raggett, Friday, 23 December 2016 05:58 (seven years ago) link

If the saga must continue, then I guess Disney will do a better job of cranking out new material than Lucasfilms could. George ran out of good ideas. But to my mind the preferable alternative to either Disney or Lucasfilms continuing to tread over old Star Wars ground would be just letting the series die after eight feature films and a bunch of ancillary junk. That seems like enough.

a little too mature to be cute (Aimless), Friday, 23 December 2016 06:15 (seven years ago) link

Why let it die when it is in the rudest of health?

the year of diving languorously (ledge), Friday, 23 December 2016 07:52 (seven years ago) link

Anyway I really enjoyed this, agreed with some of the points above - weirdly jumpy beginning, stupid master switch macguffin, ludicrous technology design forcing characters to (literally) jump through hoops - but thought they were minor quibbles not major flaws. Re: the ludicrous technology design, really this is a feature of the SW universe - the chasm in the death star with a retractable bridge that luke and leia have to swing over; the shield control that obi wan turns off stuck there in the middle of nowhere on the far side of a large pod with a narrow ledge over another chasm; the chute that luke falls down in bespin; the poor death star techs who have to cower as the giant laser shoots past them.

I thought this film really pointed up the difference between a star wars film and a film set in the star wars universe. TFA was definitely the former, this just did not feel the same, emotionally or visually. It was grittier, colder, didn't seem to have the same clarity or simplicity in shot framing - and was there even a single wipe in it?

Important questions yet to be addressed: 1) All these gung-ho rebel types keen for action and penance joined up with jyn and went to scarif, and left the ship to provide distraction for jyn and cassian. So who were the cowering youngsters left on the ship who had to be ordered by bodhi to go off and find the master switch? 2) What are those giant pens everyone carries in their shirt/poncho pockets? 3) Whatever happened to canary wharf tube station?

the year of diving languorously (ledge), Friday, 23 December 2016 09:18 (seven years ago) link

1) they were protecting the only transport they have?
3) it's in there, team "vaguely blend in" rush through it left-to-right as every one else is running right-to-left.

Andrew Farrell, Friday, 23 December 2016 09:37 (seven years ago) link

Who, where, on Scarif? Jyn & Cassian aren't in their imperial garb in the trailer footage iirc.

the year of diving languorously (ledge), Friday, 23 December 2016 10:26 (seven years ago) link

Sure, if you're asking "where's this footage from the trailer" the answer is the same as the rest of the footage - it isn't in the film. Canary Wharf is though.

Andrew Farrell, Friday, 23 December 2016 11:19 (seven years ago) link

alright, i'll look out for it next time. despite enjoying the film i won't be rushing to see it again in the cinema, unlike TFA. possibly because it was less emotionally compelling, possibly because I have a baby now.

the year of diving languorously (ledge), Friday, 23 December 2016 11:58 (seven years ago) link

it's on 123movies already...if you dare!

Dominique, Friday, 23 December 2016 14:16 (seven years ago) link

The tunic/sleeve pens are apparently code cylinders, which technically match with the weird technology of the rest of the series by going with something akin to a USB stick as a secure log-in rather than a password.

http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Code_cylinder

THE SKURJ OF FAKE NEWS. (kingfish), Friday, 23 December 2016 20:08 (seven years ago) link

Carrie Fisher in critical condition after a heart attack :(

Number None, Friday, 23 December 2016 22:03 (seven years ago) link

Dang, just saw that news.

Ned Raggett, Saturday, 24 December 2016 19:18 (seven years ago) link

Stable, last I saw ...

Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 24 December 2016 19:50 (seven years ago) link

the "stable" message was unsourced, her brother mentioned not knowing where that came from. she's in the ICU
:(

mh 😏, Saturday, 24 December 2016 19:57 (seven years ago) link

Well, she's alive, at least. But there were reports she went a good 10+ not breathing. Good luck, Carrie Fisher!

God, this year has sucked so bad I forgot that Muhammed Ali died.

Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 24 December 2016 20:34 (seven years ago) link

honestly got chills when red leader/gold leader called in

, Sunday, 25 December 2016 04:26 (seven years ago) link

kinda weird they had these glorious HD views on the screen in the death star but then switched to ANH grainy views to show continuity i guess

, Sunday, 25 December 2016 04:29 (seven years ago) link

i liked that the uniforms were of a continuity with ANH - everybody has these stupid little five sided die pins or w/e

, Sunday, 25 December 2016 04:42 (seven years ago) link

Much like with Force Awakens, anybody notice the mirroring of shots from Star Wars? Stuff like the rebel dude in his crows nest at Yavin 4, who was shown twice, once to match the earlier movie, the second for a much different moment where they jack the impounded imperial ship.

One of the many, many callbacks: when Jyn is hiding in her bunker, she fiddled around trying to light what looks like the same type of lamp Luke uses on Dagobah.

― THE SKURJ OF FAKE NEWS. (kingfish), Sunday, December 18, 2016 2:57 AM (six days ago) Bookmark'

blue milk at the beginning, stolen imperial shuttle with wonky security codes

, Sunday, 25 December 2016 04:51 (seven years ago) link

Anybody else get "Xwing"/"Tie fighter" flashbacks in this? They mention Admiral Thrawn by name, and several Y-Wings use ion torpodes to deactivate a star destroyer
yup, i grinned like a motherfucker when this happened
― Nhex, Sunday, December 18, 2016 3:04 AM (six days ago) Bookmark

ion torpedos weren't in any of the space sim games!

i totally thought the u-wing was a skipray blastboat though

, Sunday, 25 December 2016 04:53 (seven years ago) link

Also, is this the first SW with progress bars on a screen?

― THE SKURJ OF FAKE NEWS. (kingfish), Sunday, December 18, 2016 4:52 AM (six days ago) Bookmark

i always thought this was kind of a progress bar

https://i.imgur.com/tBWOxEL.jpg

, Sunday, 25 December 2016 05:00 (seven years ago) link

The weird ethnic casting bothered me a bit, i.e. "Let's cast actors who look like the citizens of countries from which we want to extract mega profits!"

― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, December 21, 2016 12:44 AM (three days ago) Bookmark

this is a weird cynical take - it's more about taking the original empire being composed of humans / rebels are humans + the aliens that the empire disdains and recasting that in a 2016 diversity light

, Sunday, 25 December 2016 05:03 (seven years ago) link

also, i suspect based on my memory of the conversation between Leia and Vader at the beginning of Ep IV that the events at the end of this film involving her don't quite line up logically w/her denials and Vader's line of questioning. I could be wrong. I had always imagined that there was a lot more subterfuge and secrecy as opposed to a huge Imperial-base destroying fight immediately preceding things. it's not a huge deal for me, it doesn't remove some of the mystery and enjoyment the way the events of eps 1-3 did.

― nomar, Wednesday, December 21, 2016 9:55 PM (three days ago) Bookmark

i could imagine the corvette just jumping around on the run for like half a year, everybodys clothes getting really threadbare from having been washed so many times, the empire orchestrating a massive denial/coverup campaign

, Sunday, 25 December 2016 05:07 (seven years ago) link

I was annoyed not that they cast an Asian actor (there are no "Asians" in Star Wars world, anyway), but it seemed a little on the nose that they also made him a blind martial arts expert. Like, any of them could have been blind and good at fighting, they just happened to give those attributes to Donnie Yen.

― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, December 22, 2016 9:54 AM (two days ago) Bookmark

well - i liked it and i thought it was smart because it pivots the force back to its origins rooted in asian mysticism / buddhism with teeth. a strong rebuke of midichlorians. so having the two 'force users' or at least force sensitive characters, basically just two dudes who washed out of jedi training / would have been in jedi training if there were any jedis left, be asian, wandering around a temple (hokey religion) named jedha, self training with zen koans, building a lightsaber facsimile out of some inertial impulse that they can't explain - i liked it

, Sunday, 25 December 2016 05:13 (seven years ago) link

i could imagine the corvette just jumping around on the run for like half a year, everybodys clothes getting really threadbare from having been washed so many times, the empire orchestrating a massive denial/coverup campaign

I prefer the analogue of the televised car chase that begins with a robbery and ends with a PIT maneuver but the driver still acts like they have no idea why the police showed up all of a sudden

a Warren Beatty film about Earth (El Tomboto), Sunday, 25 December 2016 05:14 (seven years ago) link

final shitpost: i hate that x-wingsand TIE fighters are the only starfighters they really bring back from the first movies. well they had y-wings here but only to link up to ANH. the new TIE fighter design they had at scarrick or w/e looked awful.

basically, needed more TIE interceptors imo

, Sunday, 25 December 2016 05:15 (seven years ago) link

honestly got chills when red leader/gold leader called in

― 龜, Saturday, December 24, 2016 11:26 PM (yesterday) Bookmark

sorry, final final shitpost - part of the reason i loved this was you had a bunch of ppl doing fake international/european accents and/or modern american ones and then these two dudes w/ 70s americana sunbathed californian (californian?) drawls intermixed

, Sunday, 25 December 2016 05:20 (seven years ago) link

Leia did have a legit diplomatic mission in that she's trying to deliver evidence of the Emperor's weapon to the senate. She just had to meet up with informants in the middle of a battle, making the whole ordeal really suspect. And before she can drop by home, the senate's dissolved and home is blown up.

New mustache pilot guy was my favorite fringe character

mh 😏, Sunday, 25 December 2016 05:21 (seven years ago) link

General Merrick / Blue Leader

a Warren Beatty film about Earth (El Tomboto), Sunday, 25 December 2016 05:28 (seven years ago) link

Why the hell did they awkward-plonk C3PO and R2D2 into the Yavin hangar when they could have had them show up on, I dunno, the Blockade Runner just like Princess Leia?
Mind you, I did love the idea that the terrified guys at the start of ANH had recently seen Darth storm the corridor and trash 20 armed soldiers singlehanded.

attention vampire (MatthewK), Sunday, 25 December 2016 06:53 (seven years ago) link

Asian lady x wing fighter !

calstars, Sunday, 25 December 2016 17:14 (seven years ago) link

ok so the opening crawl of Ep IV:

It is a period of civil war.
Rebel spaceships, striking
from a hidden base, have won
their first victory against
the evil Galactic Empire.

During the battle, Rebel
spies managed to steal secret
plans to the Empire's
ultimate weapon, the DEATH
STAR, an armored space
station with enough power
to destroy an entire planet.

Pursued by the Empire's
sinister agents, Princess
Leia races home aboard her
starship, custodian of the
stolen plans that can save her
people and restore
freedom to the galaxy....

i guess it pretty much does line up with Rogue One. Leia and her "diplomatic mission" excuse still isn't exactly plausible deniability though.

nomar, Sunday, 25 December 2016 17:27 (seven years ago) link

Is Jaw Gerrera supposed to be some kind of Che Guevara ref

Οὖτις, Sunday, 25 December 2016 19:12 (seven years ago) link

Yea he shoots Eva Peron too

Neanderthal, Sunday, 25 December 2016 20:10 (seven years ago) link

Is Jaw Gerrera supposed to be some kind of Che Guevara ref
― Οὖτις

Sky Ferreira I'm pretty sure

attention vampire (MatthewK), Sunday, 25 December 2016 20:45 (seven years ago) link

Miguel Herrera iirc

Flamenco Drop (VegemiteGrrl), Sunday, 25 December 2016 22:50 (seven years ago) link

We went and saw this again today and I liked it a lot better on second viewing. I didn't even notice the first time but along with no opening crawl this avoids a lot of other SW formalist gestures like the wipes between scenes; Edwards just uses straight cuts and establishing shots.

I really like the cleverness of the opening shot -- the pan up through the star field is standard stuff, then you get an encroaching triangular shape that looks momentarily familiar but turns out to be the partly-shadowed rings of a planet.

Lauren Schumer Donor (Phil D.), Monday, 26 December 2016 00:50 (seven years ago) link

AT-ATs and their pilots on winter recess vaca in Miami and vicinity

calstars, Monday, 26 December 2016 01:19 (seven years ago) link

Thought this was way better than the last one. Albeit filled w plenty of lol / wtf / eyeroll moments

The scene where she's trying to send the plans by climbing to the top felt like I was watching someone play a video game

Listen to my homeboy Fantano (D-40), Monday, 26 December 2016 01:31 (seven years ago) link

Like, why is there an opening-closing hatch she has to jump through? What possible purpose did that thing serve. Lol

Listen to my homeboy Fantano (D-40), Monday, 26 December 2016 01:33 (seven years ago) link

dryer vent? didn't see any lint stuck in it though

The beaver is not the bad guy (El Tomboto), Monday, 26 December 2016 01:49 (seven years ago) link

Fairly certain the irising portal hatch she leaves the data tape room thru is a straight copy of the one atop the Falcon.

THE SKURJ OF FAKE NEWS. (kingfish), Monday, 26 December 2016 02:09 (seven years ago) link


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