ILX Gonna Shine in My Backdoor Someday (new post-Fahey folk for ppl posting in Takoma/Tompkins Square threads Pt II)

I'd read it!

In this particular case you don't need to have experience with that kind of environment to be so effectively transported there through the art. Or do you? Why or why not? I only enjoy art that transports me somewhere when I'm interacting with it. But I acknowledge that the places it brings me is only determined by my very specific accumulation of experiences, interests & perspective. If I go exactly where the artist is trying to take me does that reflect badly on the art for lacking a necessary level of depth and interpretation? Obviously overtly cultural music can't be faulted for this.

I've been thinking about starting a thread about the transportive nature of music and whether or not it's something I'm fixated on more than others.

that janet feder thing is great, never heard of her but I really like her playing. going to investigate

it's interesting the difference between the landscape an artist lives in and the landscapes they are drawn to. all those fahey pieces about rivers, but he was decidedly suburban

transport you to somewhere spatially, like a physical space? when i think of music that 'transports' i think of to some different state of consciousness i guess. never thought of it that way i guess

i would read also xp

i know i'm hokey re: 'consciousness'. i suppose its true that a lot of music does take me to a time or place but that's often due to music triggering a specific memory of listening to that piece of music in a certain time/place.

Feder shared this album with Frith:

http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=janet+feder+frith+ironic+universe

She's put out some solo albums. A lot of her solo material has vocals, and unfortunately, while I love her playing, I am not that into the vocal side of her work.

I remember my mother trying to mark up a pair of pants I was wearing, to alter them. Reggae band playing on TV (local public station). I keep moving around.

My mom: "It [the music] sends you."

Reggae band playing on TV (local public station)

Must have been these guys???

https://youtu.be/6jYMP1tz02Q

It's similar to a dream for me in the sense that on one hand it can be a very particular physical space (I can't listen to most pop music because it "transports" me to the grocery store or the lobby of a dentists office), or a little more vaguely a type of place (gardens, mountains, and old home), and on the other hand the "environment" is harder to pin down and semi materializes as a result of the feeling I'm having as apposed to the other way around but I still feel like I've literally gone somewhere.

xps

an old home*

Interesting. For me that's almost never anything but a metaphor for an emotional experience.

Lots of sad, somber music doesn't make me sad because it instead is transporting me to a peaceful icy landscape, or a time in my life where I've quietly stared at the stars at night, or plenty of other equally corny examples.

Must have been these guys???

Not that it matters, but it was actually someone legitimate who happened to be playing in the local PBS studio, or maybe it was even a rebroadcast. This was a long time ago (79/80ish) and probably before I had even heard much reggae.

I don't visualize (just the briefest flashes, at most) so I'm not sure if I even could be transported to another place very adequately, but maybe by some more vague "sense of place."

ya i know i just love that video xp

(Bored at work one day before winter break begins.)

all those fahey pieces about rivers, but he was decidedly suburban

― ogmor, Thursday, December 22, 2016 1:00 PM (eight hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

at least in the bbc doc when they went back to some areas of takoma it looked pretty bucolic & there was a river running through it...would imagine it was only moreso in the 40s and 50s

i wonder from our perspective in 2016 we have a different view of what "suburban" entails...i know i've seen pictures of bloomington, mn where the mall of america is now and it's fields and a few scattered houses

Well there is "rural suburban" as well.

Right. I don't see anything inherently contradictory about suburbs having rivers running through them.

(FWIW, I lived in a suburb of Philadelphia in the late 70s and early 80s that was really more like a transitioning rural area. There was a small farm immediately behind my family's yard, and there were other small farms in the area.)

Annie Dillard's Pilgrim at Tinker Creek, despite reading like a manifesto of wilderness ecstasy, is precisely about one of those liminal zones between the suburban and the wild. So is Walden, really.

right, he wrote about the sligo, but he the other places he was inspired by were largely rural, sometimes imaginary - a view from a rail road intersection, an incongruously placed cement factory, the imagined pennsylvania/alabama border he wanted to stomp around, the palace of king philip xiv of spain which might easily turn into the palace of the invisible city of bladensburg... these places are not suburban really, even if you might want to claim the imagination behind them is distinctively suburban. there might be bits of places he was in or had visited, but the way they appeared was dream-like, not tied to the reality of the place

also wrt to takoma, i suppose there is the takoma that is takoma and the semi-mystical takoma full of talking turtles etc from his book

I can't listen to most pop music because it "transports" me to the grocery store or the lobby of a dentists office

otm

wow NPR bestoys recognition on "the scene"

couple i hadn't heard of

http://www.npr.org/sections/allsongs/2016/12/30/507425674/the-top-10-solo-guitar-records-of-2016

slide work on that new Bachman is so incredible, I can't even imagine how he does that drone/scrape/noise hovering-over-you sound

Dinsdale posted this list on the year end thread
https://stationarytravels.wordpress.com/2016/12/30/2016-in-review-journeys-in-acoustic-primitive-experimental-folk/

^^ that list and the ambient/drone/electroacoustic on that site are kinda fascinating. year-end lists done right. can't wait to dig in.

yeah, that list looks ideal -- a bunch of things I haven't heard, all sounds good.

the new Eyvind Kang/Tashi Dorji split on Unrock arrived today, lovely side by Kang and some more challenging stuff from Dorji, sounds great on first listen.

Hey all, happy new year. Or, at the very least: hey, it's a new year and I am glad this page still exists.

Also, fully agree that Bachman's slide work is becoming a real treat. New record rules in my opinion. As far as the new one goes, some of the drone is another musician, at least on some of the tracks, but of course he is capable of creating that with his right hand too. But yeah, his buddy plays a home-made drone instrument on the record that Daniel plays along to.

ah, OK, I missed that detail, makes much more sense

Idk if this exactly fits with this thread but the new Kevin Hufnagel computer-processed guitar album seems to focus more on processed acoustic and ukelele:
https://kevinhufnagel.bandcamp.com/album/the-protected-shards

the new Eyvind Kang/Tashi Dorji split on Unrock arrived today, lovely side by Kang and some more challenging stuff from Dorji, sounds great on first listen.

― sleeve, Saturday, December 31, 2016 5:57 PM (three days ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

digging this

Was just jamming the Dorji/Marisa Anderson split the other day. Still dig his playing a lot, and there are a couple of real gems from Marisa on that record too. Kang is a great player, so I am sure that split is ace too.

Also, fully agree that Bachman's slide work is becoming a real treat. New record rules in my opinion. As far as the new one goes, some of the drone is another musician, at least on some of the tracks, but of course he is capable of creating that with his right hand too. But yeah, his buddy plays a home-made drone instrument on the record that Daniel plays along to.

― grandavis, Tuesday, January 3, 2017 6:14 PM (three hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

There's a great video of "Brightleaf Blues" that shows those wheel-crank drone instruments that his friend Forrest made. On the album it sounds like a couple tracks laid down or blended into each other with Daniel doing bar slide harmonics (see: Rose's Sundogs technique) + other drones (?) + the traditional fingerpicked pulls and slides. But I think the key is the restraint and amount of each drone rubbing up against each other within the finished piece. It really does have that hovering over you type of feeling without it getting too 'messy' and heavy, or even longwinded. Good stuff.

Thanks for linking to the Kevin Hufnagel album above, I like it a lot. The one from last year was great too.

Yep, I definitely nominated Backwards Through the Maze for the ILM eoy poll. I've no expectation that it will place but it will do well on my ballot.

Yeah Neal, I think you are spot on in both a) what is going on in those tunes and b) the restraint + amount + space + duration. Not always an easy negotiation to make, and I think it is made well on this record. And yeah Sleeve is totally right on in just noting how righteous a lot of the slide playing is. The "sundog" thing is part of it (pretty much eat that sound up myself), but his more trad playing is a real treat on this too.

looks like this sold-out Rob Noyes LP is up on Bandcamp now -- https://poonvillage.bandcamp.com/album/the-feudal-spirit
really recommend this one.

can't bring myself to click on 'poon village' at work

Folk singer Joan Shelley has announced a followup to 2015’s very solid Over and Even. No title or release date yet, but we know she recorded it with Wilco’s Jeff Tweedy producing and playing on it. It also features contributions from her frequent collaborator Nathan Salsburg, Jeff Tweedy’s son and bandmate Spencer, and James Elkington (who is one half of a duo with Nathan Salsburg). Stay tuned for more details.

http://www.brooklynvegan.com/joan-shelley-preps-jeff-tweedy-produced-lp-touring-with-wilco-richard-thompson-more/?trackback=tsmclip

Excited!

^^Same.

"very solid" doesn't come anywhere near doing Over and Even justice

idk it was almost too 'good' for my tastes. maybe a little toothless. i should revisit

It's no more challenging than a typical Iron & Wine record or something, but I found it had a much richer atmosphere of textures and feeling than other overly pretty, knitted sweater style music out there.

yeah, i think it's a classic -- a little worried she won't be able to top it with this new one, but maybe!

lol @ knitted sweater music

love a good knitted sweater.
enjoying this kinda low-key/lo-fi 12-string action: https://dannypound.bandcamp.com/album/old-light-painting

I suspect a lot of brigadiers are not EOY poll voters but I was idly thinking that the combined mass could surely get the likes of glenn jones in the top 77

plz vote for Sarah Louise!